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Username Post: Penn again        (Topic#20069)
Tiger69 
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Re: Penn again
03-25-17 10:28 PM - Post#228135    
    In response to sparman

Well, one day when I had nothing better to do, I wandered over to the Dartmouth board and was surprised to read some pretty vicious posts by a couple of Vermouth (love that!) fans ripping their own coach and players. We have "mud season" about this time of year in Colorado. It must infect New Hampshire, too.

 
palestra38 
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Re: Penn again
03-26-17 07:49 AM - Post#228137    
    In response to sparman

Agreed on the Dartmouth statements----they actually thought it was a good idea to fire Cormier, a truly great coach who had just recruited probably the best talent in years (if not ever). My guess is that they would have been in the playoff had he stayed.



 
Go Green 
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Re: Penn again
03-27-17 08:14 AM - Post#228187    
    In response to sparman

  • sparman Said:


Penn fans at least have bona fides to discuss basketball. The idea of a Dartmouth fan presuming to critique another ivy bball coach is just silly.



JTIII lost a Big East job, not an Ivy job.

Or does a stop at an Ivy school perpetually inoculate a coach from comment except from Penn fans on this Board?

 
Go Green 
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Re: Penn again
03-27-17 08:16 AM - Post#228188    
    In response to palestra38

  • palestra38 Said:
My guess is that they would have been in the playoff had he stayed.





That's not exactly going out on a huge limb, given that we were still alive for a tourney bid going into the last game.

 
palestra38 
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Re: Penn again
03-27-17 08:44 AM - Post#228191    
    In response to Go Green

You guys finished last and it would have taken a miracle to get in the last weekend. Granted, you beat Penn twice, but your former coach was the best game coach in the league, had recruited the best freshman and got fired because of the AD's ego. Bad move.

 
Go Green 
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Re: Penn again
03-27-17 08:50 AM - Post#228192    
    In response to palestra38

  • palestra38 Said:
You guys finished last and it would have taken a miracle to get in the last weekend. Granted, you beat Penn twice, but your former coach was the best game coach in the league, had recruited the best freshman and got fired because of the AD's ego. Bad move.



Three things needed to happen for Dartmouth to get in-- Dartmouth beating Princeton, Harvard beating Penn, and Yale beating Columbia.

The third happened. The second was supposed to happen, but didn't.

I suppose Dartmouth beating Princeton would have been a "miracle." But stranger things have happened.

As for Cormier, it's been discussed to death on the Dartmouth board. My own opinion, in case you missed it was that it wasn't an obvious call. Both retaining Cormer and firing him would have been defensible. We will find out whether it was the "right" decision in three more years when we see what McLaughlin has done.

 
Silver Maple 
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Re: Penn again
03-27-17 09:17 AM - Post#228196    
    In response to palestra38

  • palestra38 Said:
You guys finished last and it would have taken a miracle to get in the last weekend. Granted, you beat Penn twice, but your former coach was the best game coach in the league, had recruited the best freshman and got fired because of the AD's ego. Bad move.



And if there's anything Penn fans know something about, it's the destructive effects of ADs with out-of-control egos. (Also, the destructive effects of Cheeto-headed Wharton grads with out-of-control egos.)

 
sparman 
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Re: Penn again
03-27-17 10:02 AM - Post#228198    
    In response to Go Green

In your case, yes.

 
Go Green 
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Re: Penn again
03-27-17 10:05 AM - Post#228199    
    In response to sparman

  • sparman Said:
In your case, yes.



I would be very, very surprised if you follow Georgetown basketball more than I do.

 
Tiger69 
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Re: Penn again
03-27-17 01:14 PM - Post#228207    
    In response to Go Green

I suggest the you consider some other more rewarding ways to spend your time.

Which reminds me, your comment earlier about the failure of us non-Penn or non-D fans to be more critical of our players and coaches. I confess that any criticism from me (and some others?) would only betray a complete lack of playing or coaching experience. Not to say there aren't a few very knowledgeable and experienced posters out there (e.g. Steve Danley on Penn boards) whose comments are insightful and interesting to read. But, their criticisms are analytic and professional and not personal.

There are, sadly, a few critics at the far end of the spectrum whose remarks aimed at players and coaches are visceral and accusatory. Those posts tell us more about the writer than the subject. I choose to credit Ivy athletes for their devotion and sacrifice. I suspect that the only critics they (players and coaches) respond to are themselves, their teammates and their peers. We fans are just noise. They owe us nothing.

But, it's a free country. Angry fans, post on! Your fellow angry fans are the only ones listening.

 
Go Green 
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Re: Penn again
03-27-17 01:30 PM - Post#228210    
    In response to Tiger69

  • Tiger69 Said:
I suggest the you consider some other more rewarding ways to spend your time.





You have 1945 posts on this Board.

I have 235.

You really want to go there?

Edited by Go Green on 03-27-17 01:31 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Tiger69 
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Re: Penn again
03-27-17 02:17 PM - Post#228212    
    In response to Go Green

Touché. Although, as is often the case, I failed to make my points clear to you.

I am a retired geezer with lots of time on my hands. Those many posts go back some time. You seem to be about 25+- my junior and a relative newcomer to these discussions. For all I know, you are a retired rich guy, also with lots of free time on your hands.

However, your implication is valid -- I DO spend far too much time on these boards, occasionally having interesting and/or humorous exchanges with fellow fans. But, I must cut back my windy responses to others whose posts seem annoying, repetitive or unreflective. Peace. Hasta luego.

 
Old Bear 
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Re: Penn again
03-27-17 03:29 PM - Post#228228    
    In response to Tiger69

Damn!

 
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