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SRP 
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03-04-17 10:11 PM - Post#224873    

Well, the much-bruited outcome indeed transpired. The fourth-place Quakers get a chance to play a home game against the undefeated first-place Tigers in the first round of the new league folly. Princeton ought to come in confident after pounding Penn at the Palestra earlier this season and playing at a high level this weekend.

At least they got in on a win over a good team. If they had lost to Harvard the beeping sound you would have heard would have been the pale blue garbage truck backing in to the tourney.

 
PennFan10 
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03-04-17 10:13 PM - Post#224879    
    In response to SRP

SRP,

I have to admit I got a good laugh out of that.

 
Tiger69 
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03-04-17 10:20 PM - Post#224885    
    In response to PennFan10

Hey, if Penn gets home court, we should get to supply the Jadwin refs

 
gokinsmen 
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Penn again
03-05-17 01:45 AM - Post#224912    
    In response to Tiger69

Even though I'm 100% in favor of an Ivy Tournament, it's hilarious how the very FIRST year is an ideal argument against it -- a 14-0 team that finished FOUR GAMES ahead of the 2nd place team has to play a 6-8 team that will have homecourt advantage due to logistical reasons.

Oh well. Tigers took care of Penn at the Palestra easily after struggling to beat them at Jadwin. At this point, it's not about the (Ivy) competition. It's about showing up ready.

Mitch's teams have a history of letdowns, so let's hope this hot streak continues and they get a chance to pull off an upset in the Big Dance.


 
10Q 
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03-05-17 09:32 AM - Post#224933    
    In response to Tiger69

All you get is the opportunity to throw orange and black marshmellos after the first basket.

 
Charlie Fog 
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03-05-17 10:00 AM - Post#224942    
    In response to 10Q

please no m-80's this year

 
Tiger69 
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03-05-17 10:06 AM - Post#224947    
    In response to Charlie Fog

How about orange and black marbles?

 
penn nation 
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03-05-17 10:17 AM - Post#224948    
    In response to Tiger69

They did that one year during my undergrad days. Caused needless delays and could have injured someone, either on the spot or later in the game if one of those marbles had rolled back into play.

 
Tiger69 
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03-05-17 10:29 AM - Post#224951    
    In response to penn nation

Sorry, not serious. Just feeling playful as I sit watching the sun rise over the mountains here in western Mexico and savor the warm aftermath of the IL basketball season.

 
10Q 
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03-05-17 10:52 AM - Post#224957    
    In response to Tiger69

You suck. Now I feel better. Enjoy the mountains.

 
Tiger69 
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03-05-17 11:58 AM - Post#224974    
    In response to 10Q

Thanks. I am.

Enjoy the tourney.

 
TigerFan 
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03-05-17 12:59 PM - Post#224995    
    In response to Tiger69

Tigers were exceptionally sharp last night on both ends of the court. If they continue to play like that, they should be fine next weekend and have a legitimate shot to win one or two games in the Big Dance. The impressive part of the undefeated season is the number of games they played when one of the stars had a bad shooting night yet they still prevailed. Unless someone can solve their defensive rotation, I think the Orange and Black will prevail next weekend even with a middling shooting performance.

 
penn nation 
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03-05-17 05:52 PM - Post#225114    
    In response to TigerFan

Will be interesting to see how Donahue utilizes Goodman, who basically saw next to no action against Princeton this year. Penn needs several wild cards to come through, and Goodman would certainly be one of them.

The real issue will be Penn's defensive schemes. Penn was so transparent and deliberate in its 1-3-1 that Princeton ended up with a ton of open threes.

 
bradley 
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03-05-17 06:06 PM - Post#225116    
    In response to penn nation

The primary difference at the Palestra is that it looked like men playing against boys -- size, athleticism, skill level, etc. from my vantage point.

 
TigerFan 
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03-05-17 07:36 PM - Post#225123    
    In response to penn nation

I have not seen Goodman play but at 6' 0" 160 lb he could have problems with our big guards.

 
Petrie 
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03-05-17 07:44 PM - Post#225126    
    In response to bradley

Speaking of wild cards, Begley is the guy that scares me. Like Brodeur, he just looks like a player. Nice bounce, very nice stroke, he's going to be thorn for 4 yrs., but hopefully not this game.

 
SRP 
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03-05-17 08:10 PM - Post#225131    
    In response to Petrie

I tend to overrate lightening-fast PGs so perhaps my concern about Goodman is unwarranted, but Penn has generally looked better when fast-breaking, so Goodman could have some effect there. My older concerns about half-court blow-bys have diminished as the Tigers have improved a lot at on-ball defense.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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03-05-17 10:03 PM - Post#225165    
    In response to SRP

Excellent point. I had forgotten the pain of seeing guards drive down the paint. Big improvement there this year. Is it better personnel, or better coaching? (Kittles anyone?)

 
SRP 
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03-05-17 10:36 PM - Post#225176    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

That would be a great story if Kittles were largely responsible for that specific improvement. Feels a little too pat to be 100% accurate but a good question to ask coaches or players--what explains it?

The improvement wasn't clear early on this season, but it got better, mostly from a consistency standpoint, as time went on. Copeland had some nifty penetration in the first Yale game, Foreman in the first Penn game had a number of blow-bys, and Smith and Chambers did some damage. But good help defense is a lot easier when you don't have to collapse on as many possessions.

Edited by SRP on 03-05-17 10:44 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Mike Porter 
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03-06-17 12:09 AM - Post#225189    
    In response to Petrie

  • Petrie Said:
Speaking of wild cards, Begley is the guy that scares me. Like Brodeur, he just looks like a player. Nice bounce, very nice stroke, he's going to be thorn for 4 yrs., but hopefully not this game.



I like the Freudian slip of Begley instead of Betley. Penn fans would be estactic if Betley can have a career like Begs!

On a more serious note, Betley has been a real revelation for Penn in the Ivy League schedule. The greats news is that he's more versatile than I expected - he's got a great stroke, but he also can drive with a floater, he can block shots and rebound. If he hadn't missed the first 9 or 10 games, I think he'd be in the mix for ROY.

 
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