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Username Post: Recruits' Post Season        (Topic#20073)
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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Reg: 01-21-14
03-15-17 07:30 PM - Post#227168    
    In response to mrjames

Regarding Bassey, we both noted that Harvard was looking for a perimeter defender and considered a few options, mainly Bassey and Chatfield.

 
SomeGuy 
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Reg: 11-22-04
03-15-17 07:55 PM - Post#227169    
    In response to Chet Forte

I think you may be misunderstanding where Mike is getting information on this stuff (and how ESPN is ranking recruits as well). My guess is that he probably has better access to what the Columbia coaches think about the incoming recruits than you do. So while you are correct that a lot of us only get info from one biased source, I don't think that is what you get from mrjames.

The services get better all the time, but they are prone to all of the problems you can imagine of trying to somehow rank or categorize over a thousand players every year.

And regardless of whether the services are right, the other question is always opportunity. That's why Oni was predictable -- if he was ready, once Mason went down there was no question he would start. That's why I think the Princeton guys are the favorites for next year. Seems like one of Much and Desrosiers could come in and start right away if they are ready, and they could do it on a strong balanced team where they wouldn't have to do it all. Could be that Faulds will ultimately be the best player. Could be that he will be ROY. But it looks to me like his chances as a freshman will be a little lower, as my guess is that Tape and Meisner start.

 
SRP 
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03-15-17 08:00 PM - Post#227170    
    In response to SomeGuy

Wasn't Bruner hampered by a knee ding most of the season? He seemed to step it up a lot in the last few games. He is obviously hugely talented just watching him move when the ball comes his way, on both ends of the floor.

 
SomeGuy 
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03-15-17 08:15 PM - Post#227171    
    In response to mrjames

Yes, Cornell is interesting. I kind of assume that Earl knew what he was looking for and got it. But nobody stands out in an obvious way. Verbal commits offers and McKenzie's teammates suggest that the guards might be better than the forwards (which I guess is bad news for a team that had to play small this year). But again, Brown, Cornell, and Dartmouth all look significantly behind the other five to me.

Your list is interesting. Surprised Scott is that low. Djuricic is interesting on the playing time front. Obviously Amaker isn't afraid to drop guys from the rotation as he goes, but it seems like Harvard will return a pretty clear top 6, plus lots of other pieces. So even if he is awesome, it might be hard to shoulder into a big role initially.

A couple guys who I'm curious about who aren't on the list are Aluassa and Brown's incoming point. Any word on them? Tier IV?!

 
Old Bear 
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Reg: 11-23-04
03-15-17 08:54 PM - Post#227174    
    In response to SomeGuy

On paper, I believe Brown has a great incoming group. But, I want to see them against college level competition before I start predicting how they will preform.

 
SomeGuy 
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03-15-17 09:35 PM - Post#227176    
    In response to Old Bear

I'm sorry to seem so down on them. It's just that the public offers for the Brown guys are much less impressive than those of a lot of the other schools, and nobody seems to give any of the Brown guys more than 2 stars (while 10 players of that level are coming in elsewhere). Brown may well have a group that fits on paper, but my concern is that they're not going toe to toe with schools at a higher level and coming out ahead. I think the gap is widening right now between the haves and have nots in the Ivy. Hopefully, in the next couple of years Brown gets in the mix for the kinds of recruits who are ending up at Harvard, Yale, Penn, and Princeton.

 
Chet Forte 
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Reg: 03-02-08
03-16-17 10:13 AM - Post#227206    
    In response to SomeGuy

One thing I noticed about the Columbia group is that all of the top four had committed by around September and presumably are early admits. I wonder how many went to the Columbia summer camp, but my guess is that this has become a must for the schools to attract good recruits.


 
cc66 
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Reg: 10-09-09
Recruits' Post Season
03-16-17 05:18 PM - Post#227373    
    In response to SomeGuy

Sg--why do you think Tape will start over Faulds?Is that an endorsement of Tape's one year greater experience, his potential, or just an assumption that even good first year centers don't start? And what do you think of Meissner/Faulds/Tape as a possible starting front line?

Edited by cc66 on 03-16-17 05:18 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
SomeGuy 
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Re: cruits&#039; Post Season
03-16-17 07:30 PM - Post#227404    
    In response to cc66

All of the above on Tape.

Personally, I don't think you can play all 3 together in the modern game. Even if you could, I think Engles prefers to play small. If you are playing Harvard, Princeton, or Penn next year, who does Meisner guard? I just don't think he's going to do very well chasing Amir Bell around. And that's the 3rd big -- you're also going to have Tape chasing Towns, Stephens, or Betley around at the 4 spot.

Of course, I said the same thing last year about Columbia playing big, and I was right all year. Right up until the last game with Yale, when Engles played 3 bigs together for long stretches. You can do it against Yale, because they play 2 more traditional bigs (Reynolds can stretch the floor, but a big can guard him). So then the only match up problem is Oni.

Anyway, I predict that only 2 bigs play at once next year, and the other 3 starters are smith, Hickman, and Castlin.


 
Dr. V 
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Reg: 11-21-04
Recruits' Post Season
03-18-17 02:19 AM - Post#227526    
    In response to SomeGuy

Chaska won the 8-team sectional title 41-39 & is "going to the State," although I don't know what that means in MN other than they're playing on. Of greater interest, Hanson won the game on a drive and floater with 2.6 seconds to go and finished with 10 pts, 9 rebounds, 5 assists and a steal.

Edited by Dr. V on 03-18-17 02:20 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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