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Username Post: Selection Sunday        (Topic#20112)
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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03-09-17 08:43 PM - Post#225971    

You can watch the selection show with the team on Sunday in the Elaine Langone Center on campus. Doors open at 5:00, the show is from 5:30-7:00.

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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03-10-17 11:00 AM - Post#226045    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

Lunardi, in error, this morning has Bucknell-Butler rematch in a 13 vs 4 game.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/bracke...


 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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03-10-17 11:01 AM - Post#226046    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

CBS has 14 Bucknell vs 3 Duke in the East. (Doesn't say where, but I assume that would be in Greenville, SC.)
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/br acke...

 
BreakinBison 
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03-10-17 11:08 AM - Post#226048    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

This site provides a nice summary of potential seeding (consensus has us as a 14 although one has us as high as a 12 and another as low as a 16):

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/




 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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03-10-17 11:16 AM - Post#226052    
    In response to BreakinBison

If we're a 13 or 14, here are the current likely 3's and 4's per BracketMatrix.com (minus Butler):

UCLA, Arizona, Florida State, Florida, Duke, Purdue, West Virginia.

Low 2's: Louisville, Baylor
High 5's: Virginia, Cincinnati




 
Bison89 
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03-10-17 11:24 AM - Post#226056    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

I would love to play Purdue or Florida State.
Shall we DANCE?


 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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03-10-17 11:56 AM - Post#226062    
    In response to Bison89

I know the committee has to set up the bracket so conference teams can't play each other until the sweet 16 at the earliest. Does the same apply for non-conference teams who played each other during the season? I feel like I remember round of 64 rematches in the past but I may be wrong.

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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03-10-17 12:15 PM - Post#226064    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
I know the committee has to set up the bracket so conference teams can't play each other until the sweet 16 at the earliest. Does the same apply for non-conference teams who played each other during the season? I feel like I remember round of 64 rematches in the past but I may be wrong.


Per the NCAA's Principles and Procedures
"If possible, rematches of non-conference regular-season games should be avoided in the First Four and first round."

http://www.ncaa.com/content/di-principles -and-proc...


 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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03-10-17 12:30 PM - Post#226067    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

Thank you roadwarrior. So it won't be Butler, which is good, I wouldn't want to see a team we already played this year and the last time we made the tournament.

 
Bison89 
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Re: Selection Sunday
03-10-17 12:30 PM - Post#226068    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
CBS has 14 Bucknell vs 3 Duke in the East. (Doesn't say where, but I assume that would be in Greenville, SC.)
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/br acke...



It seems like Duke always has a defacto home game. It would be nice to see them play someplace out west sometime.
Shall we DANCE?


 
bison63 
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03-10-17 12:39 PM - Post#226071    
    In response to Bison89

Another item of interest. Lunar do has MSM in the PIG. Fair enough based on overall record. But I think the Mount gets some credit for its brutal ooc schedule and avoids Dayton.

 
Bison137 
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03-10-17 12:52 PM - Post#226076    
    In response to BreakinBison

  • BreakinBison Said:
This site provides a nice summary of potential seeding (consensus has us as a 14 although one has us as high as a 12 and another as low as a 16):

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/





Realistically the worst seed BU could end up with is a 14. Here are the RPI's and the Pomeroy rankings for all of the lower seeded teams in the mix, sorted by Lunardi's current projected seed:

16: (RPI/Pomeroy)

Mount St Mary's 149/214
South Dakota State 148/185
NC Central 214/164
New Orleans 178/182
Texas southern 119/203
Jacksonville State 147/157

15:

North Dakota 165/177
Iona 90/118
UC Irvine 134/136
Northern Kentucky 89/144

14:

UC Bakersfield 79/110
FGCU 84/108
Winthrop 69/114
Akron 58/96

13:

BUCKNELL 63/80
E. Tennessee St 57/64
Princeton 53/63
UT Arlington 36/69

12:

Vermont 49/60


I think it is clear the Bison are better than all the 14's except possibly Akron. Also there are at least three undecided tournaments where an upset could help BU:

- MAC: If Akron loses, the next best is Ohio (110/101).
- AE: If Vermont loses, then it is Stony a rook (174/212).
- Ivy: If Princeton loses, the next best is Harvard (129/109).


Remember that the committee is not looking at Pomeroy - but it is a very good reflection of a teams body of work. Also the Bison have a win over a top 50 team and two more over a top 100. As for of SOS, the Bison have a better one than all of the 14's except Winthrop.





 
MrPhillie 
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03-10-17 12:55 PM - Post#226078    
    In response to Bison137

Yes I just cannot see Bucknell any lower than a #14 and truthfully I almost expect them to be a #13.

 
Shot Clock 
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03-10-17 01:05 PM - Post#226082    
    In response to MrPhillie

  • Quote:

I think it is clear the Bison are better than all the 14's except possibly Akron. Also there are at least three undecided tournaments where an upset could help BU:

- MAC: If Akron loses, the next best is Ohio (110/101).
- AE: If Vermont loses, then it is Stony a rook (174/212).
- Ivy: If Princeton loses, the next best is Harvard (129/109).



Also monitor the Sun Belt and MWC.

Sun Belt: UT-Arlington is the 1-seed (RPI 36) and currently projects as a 12. If they get knocked off (and very unlikely they get an at-large), the next best teams are at 112/113 RPIs (Poms even worse), so they would fall below us.

MWC is in a really down year. Nevada is the 1-seed with a 34 RPI, also projecting as a 12. If they lose, you're dropping down to either 70-Colorado ST (84 Pom), 74-Fresno (100 Pom), or 91-San Diego State (77 Pom), so that could go either way.

Given those 5 shots, I really like our chances at a 13, and they may already be a 13. 12 is likely out of reach (would need 3 or 4 upsets in those 5 conferences), but hell, I remember being surprised that they got an 11 in 2013.
B.A. Bucknell University, 1993


Edited by Shot Clock on 03-10-17 01:11 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
jkrun80 
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03-10-17 01:31 PM - Post#226095    
    In response to Shot Clock

My previous post was wrong. Vermont is playing Albany in the AE final, not Stony Brook. Albany beat S-B in the semi. Albany's RPI is 140 which drops them to a 15 or 16.

 
Shot Clock 
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03-10-17 03:35 PM - Post#226132    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
If we're a 13 or 14, here are the current likely 3's and 4's per BracketMatrix.com (minus Butler):

UCLA, Arizona, Florida State, Florida, Duke, Purdue, West Virginia.

Low 2's: Louisville, Baylor
High 5's: Virginia, Cincinnati






Can probably eliminate Purdue as a possible opponent (assuming we're a 13) as they just fell in the B10 quarters to Michigan. Don't see them any higher than 5.

I definitely do not want to see WVU.
B.A. Bucknell University, 1993


Edited by Shot Clock on 03-10-17 03:35 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
atlantabison 
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Re: Selection Sunday
03-10-17 04:06 PM - Post#226135    
    In response to Shot Clock

  • Shot Clock Said:
  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
If we're a 13 or 14, here are the current likely 3's and 4's per BracketMatrix.com (minus Butler):

UCLA, Arizona, Florida State, Florida, Duke, Purdue, West Virginia.

Low 2's: Louisville, Baylor
High 5's: Virginia, Cincinnati






Can probably eliminate Purdue as a possible opponent (assuming we're a 13) as they just fell in the B10 quarters to Michigan. Don't see them any higher than 5.

I definitely do not want to see WVU.



The team I want to see is Florida, they are minus their Center out with a knee and lost twice to Vanderbilt. Granted all the coach needs to do to motivate to take us seriously is to play the Vanderbilt tape, but they figure to be overseeded as a 4.
Ray Bucknell!


 
Bison89 
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Re: Selection Sunday
03-10-17 04:21 PM - Post#226141    
    In response to atlantabison

  • atlantabison Said:

The team I want to see is Florida, they are minus their Center out with a knee and lost twice to Vanderbilt. Granted all the coach needs to do to motivate to take us seriously is to play the Vanderbilt tape, but they figure to be overseeded as a 4.




Florida's RPI is currently #4. Lunardi has them as a 4. With an RPI of #4, a 4 would not seem to be overseeded other than if you take the injuries into account.

BTW, Vermont was just moved up to a 12 by Lunardi. I have no idea of how that impacts Bucknell.
Shall we DANCE?


 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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03-10-17 05:50 PM - Post#226153    
    In response to Bison89

Happy to see CBS is pledging to reveal the brackets more quickly than it did in last year's extended show, which was a multidimensional trainwreck:
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/media- views...


 
MrPhillie 
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03-10-17 07:07 PM - Post#226160    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

Yes it was far too long last year...however, I hope to hear a little talk about the Bison and the possibility of an upset.

 
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