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Username Post: Selection Sunday        (Topic#20112)
jkrun80 
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03-11-17 12:47 PM - Post#226250    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
A higher seed is generally good, but ultimately success will depend more on how we match up against a given team, less on their seed number.


My thoughts exactly. 12, 13, or 14 it's going to depend more on how we match up and whether we play to our potential.

 
MrPhillie 
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03-11-17 01:05 PM - Post#226256    
    In response to jkrun80

Perhaps a Purdue or Florida matchup is good?

 
jkrun80 
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03-11-17 01:06 PM - Post#226257    
    In response to jkrun80

Vermont comes back to win by 4. Arlington trails by 2.

 
BisonFan4 
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03-11-17 01:20 PM - Post#226260    
    In response to MrPhillie

I think they match up very well with both Purdue and Florida. Louisville makes me nervous, I even think we'd have a good shot against UCLA

 
jkrun80 
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03-11-17 02:26 PM - Post#226274    
    In response to BisonFan4

UT Arlington is down 18 with under 4:00 to play. You can scratch them from the bracket.

 
BUFan 
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03-11-17 02:28 PM - Post#226277    
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Princeton down 3 at the half

 
Shot Clock 
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03-11-17 02:30 PM - Post#226278    
    In response to jkrun80

  • jkrun80 Said:
Vermont comes back to win by 4. Arlington trails by 2.



UT-Arlington getting drilled. There's a move up.

Princeton also losing at half.
B.A. Bucknell University, 1993


 
Bison137 
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03-11-17 02:36 PM - Post#226283    
    In response to Shot Clock

  • Shot Clock Said:
  • jkrun80 Said:
Vermont comes back to win by 4. Arlington trails by 2.



UT-Arlington getting drilled. There's a move up.

Princeton also losing at half.




Princeton got kind of a raw deal. They went 14-0, which would have sent them to the tournament any other year. But for their reward this year, they get to play Penn in the Palestra in the first round.




 
Shot Clock 
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03-11-17 02:40 PM - Post#226287    
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  • Bison137 Said:


Princeton got kind of a raw deal. They went 14-0, which would have sent them to the tournament any other year. But for their reward this year, they get to play Penn in the Palestra in the first round.



Yep. Ivy picked the wrong year to start a tourney. And it set up horribly for 14-0 Princeton. Having to win a road game. Then another.

Not sure why the Ivy did it. Certainly not hurting for cash.
B.A. Bucknell University, 1993


 
Bison54 
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03-11-17 06:39 PM - Post#226400    
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  • atlantabison Said:
Rooting Guide to a great day for the Bison Today

11:00 am Albany over Vermont
12:30 pm Texas State over UTArlington
1:00 pm. Davidson over Rhode Island
1:30 pm Penn over Princeton
Go outside and get some fresh air
6:00 pm Colorado State over Nevada
7:30 pm Kent State over Akro
8:30 pm Marshall over Mid Tenn St

Wake up Sunday looking at a 12 seed.







1-3 for the afternoon. Texas State the only cooperating winner so far


 
jkrun80 
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03-11-17 09:31 PM - Post#226416    
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Looks like Akron will lose.

 
BisonFan4 
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03-11-17 09:44 PM - Post#226419    
    In response to jkrun80

Akron goes down!

 
Bison137 
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03-11-17 10:01 PM - Post#226421    
    In response to BisonFan4

With the losses by Akron and TX Arlington, that should give the Bison a 13 if the committee does its homework. The only risk factor is if they have to flip flop a 13 with a 14 due its rules on things like teams not playing teams they already played etc.




 
Bison137 
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03-11-17 10:16 PM - Post#226426    
    In response to Bison137

If anyone is interested in understanding the entire process of selecting teams and then creating a bracket, below is a link for the NCAA report on exactly how it is done. There are a number of rules to follow as to teams that cannot play each other at certain times, including these:

- Teams from the same conference shall not meet prior to the regional final if they played each other three or more times during the regular season and conference tournament.

- Teams from the same conference shall not meet prior to the regional semifinals if they played each other twice during the regular season and conference tournament.

- Teams from the same conference may play each other as early as the second round if they played no more than once during the regular season and conference tournament.

- Any principle can be relaxed if two or more teams from the same conference are among the last four at-large seeded teams participating in the First Four.

- To recognize the demonstrated quality of such teams, the committee shall not place teams seeded on the first four lines at a potential “home-crowd disadvantage” in the first round.


Additional Considerations

1. If possible, rematches of non-conference regular-season games should be avoided in the First Four and first round.

2. If possible, after examining the previous two years’ brackets, teams or conferences will not be moved out of its natural region or geographic area an inordinate number of times.

3. If possible, rematches from the previous two tournaments should be avoided in the first round.



http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/a rticle/20...




 
BUFan 
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03-11-17 11:19 PM - Post#226434    
    In response to MrPhillie

For those who follow college basketball outside of the Patriot League more than me, who would we NOT want to see out of the potential 3/4 seeds due to match ups?

 
Bison89 
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03-11-17 11:57 PM - Post#226437    
    In response to BUFan

BUFan, I think that some of us answered your question earlier.
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
Bison89 
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03-12-17 07:49 AM - Post#226458    
    In response to Bison89

Lunardi'a supposed final Bracketology has Bucknell 13 vs. Butler 4 in the Midwest Bracket. Since the Bison have already played Butler, I wonder if there are other NCAA guidelines that are stopping the other 13 seeds from playing Butler or Bucknell from playing any of the other 4 seeds.

He has Florida dropping to a 5 seed. I would have loved to face them.

GO BISON!
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
BUFan 
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03-12-17 07:50 AM - Post#226459    
    In response to Bison89

I saw Louisville mentioned, but wasn't sure if others had thoughts.

On a different note, just like we will likely not play Butler, the following potential 4 / 13 matchups will be avoided due to regular season meetings:

Winthrop - Florida State
FGCU - Florida
FGCU - Baylor (Unlikely Baylor would drop to a 4)

This could make the Florida teams just slightly more probably for us (especially if Princeton gets bounced today)

As I look at it, these are our most likely opponents now...

West Virginia
Purdue
Cincinnati (Jerry Palm's current pick)
Notre Dame (Fox Sports' current pick)
Florida State
SMU
Florida
Virginia

 
Bison137 
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03-12-17 08:47 AM - Post#226469    
    In response to Bison89

  • Bison89 Said:
Lunardi'a supposed final Bracketology has Bucknell 13 vs. Butler 4 in the Midwest Bracket. Since the Bison have already played Butler, I wonder if there are other NCAA guidelines that are stopping the other 13 seeds from playing Butler or Bucknell from playing any of the other 4 seeds.

He has Florida dropping to a 5 seed. I would have loved to face them.

GO BISON!



I think Lunardi's just didn't notice that Bucknell is not allowed to play Butler.




 
Bison89 
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03-12-17 10:21 AM - Post#226473    
    In response to Bison137

I need some help understanding the PIGs. I understand why #16s would play each other for the right to get executed by a #1, but I do not understand why there are #11s that have to play in. Why not just set it up so that there are 8 #16s that have to play in to then go against the 4 #1s?
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
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