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whitakk 
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03-10-17 10:47 AM - Post#226040    

My preview:
http://www.nycbuckets.com/2017/03/ivy-league-to urn...

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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03-10-17 12:14 PM - Post#226063    
    In response to whitakk

Thanks for the analysis. Seems like you see Yale reverting to the norm from 3 resulting in a tight game. I'm just as worried about Aiken's variability. Guess that's why it it seems objectively hard to beat a team 3 times in a year. Harvard may need to find a 3rd way to win.

 
SRP 
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03-10-17 02:24 PM - Post#226114    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Love your shot charts. Harvard 2-13 from mid-range against Yale with two fouls drawn. Those could be forced attempts against the shot clock if Harvard is following the analytics, but I prefer to visualize Aiken just pulling up and letting fly.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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03-10-17 03:17 PM - Post#226127    
    In response to SRP

Aiken lets fly from 3. Usually Siyani and Seth in that area - they shot 4-18 on 2's in first meeting. Both have shot much much better of late.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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03-10-17 03:41 PM - Post#226133    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

In two games against Yale Crimson other than Aiken only shot 8-30 from 3 (1-10 in second meeting). Zena and Chris in foul trouble throughout.

Yale did shoot poorly from 3, but very well on 2's: 22-43 and 22-38. Copeland 16-21 and Downey 10-17.

Harvard needs to keep the pressure on Yale 3's, especially Oni (40.6%), Dallier (38.9%) and Reynolds (37.4%). Stop Copeland's drives and shots in the lane, force him to take 3's where he shoots only 28.6%. I believe Zena can contain (not shut down) Downey, so it's important for Zena to stay out of foul trouble. Lewis is less physical and I expect Downey can be more effective in that matchup.

Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 03-10-17 03:47 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Tiger69 
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Re: Yale
03-10-17 04:08 PM - Post#226137    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Hard to know whom Tigers should pull for in this one. I think that I'd rather root for a second rematch to yale, however. Harvard is only getting stronger with time, despite their letdown loss to the quackers.

 
bradley 
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Re: Yale
03-10-17 05:36 PM - Post#226152    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Yale has certainly not performed well over the second half of the IL season. They simply have not improved as a group. Harvard should win as they have improved although anything can happen in a game.

Downey and Copeland have enjoyed success against Harvard with Downey's play against Lewis/Edosomwan somewhat of a surprise. The thought that Zena may try to hold his own against Downey is a long way from Edosomwan's play for a segment of last year. He just does not seem to play very tall plus he can be trapped. It did not seem that long ago that Zena was being really hyped but he has still has two IL games to make a statement -- he may well do it.

 
SRP 
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03-11-17 05:15 PM - Post#226363    
    In response to bradley

It's the Nouveau Riche slot in the Ivy folly, after Princeton won the Old Money contest with Penn. I expect this to be a very intense game with Yale coming in ready to do anything to win.

 
SRP 
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03-11-17 05:43 PM - Post#226374    
    In response to SRP

Kind of an NBA feel in the first 5 minutes. Teams playing loose and with great athleticism. Harvard's frontline defense has been poor but their shot blocking at the rim is a big factor.

 
SRP 
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03-11-17 06:06 PM - Post#226379    
    In response to SRP

Yale up 38-30 at the half. Based on the regular season, Harvard has them right where they want them, right? Copeland and Oni are getting where they want, Harvard missing some shots they usually make. Fun game to watch if you like watching guys play above the rim.

 
SRP 
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03-11-17 06:43 PM - Post#226381    
    In response to SRP

Yale has taken care of the ball much better in this game than in the previous meetings. Only 5 TOs with 10:06 left.

 
Chip Bayers 
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03-11-17 06:55 PM - Post#226382    
    In response to SRP

It was quite the moment a few minutes ago as the Harvard bench erupted in oohs and ahs at a spin dribble move by Seth Towns on the baseline, undressing his defender as he rose for the easy score ... and then he blew the shot.


 
SRP 
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03-11-17 07:03 PM - Post#226387    
    In response to Chip Bayers

Crimson can't buy a trey. Towns and johnson 2-15 between them, although Aiken is a good 4-9.

If Yale could hit a free throw or box out they'd be way ahead.

Bruner has been rising in the second half.

 
SRP 
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03-11-17 07:04 PM - Post#226388    
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That Oni blow-by and dunk with and-one was impressive.

 
SRP 
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03-11-17 07:06 PM - Post#226389    
    In response to SRP

Aiken is playing hero ball very successfully down the stretch. The defense wasn't even that bad the last few times.

 
SRP 
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03-11-17 07:08 PM - Post#226390    
    In response to SRP

Guess I jinxed Aiken, as he tried one more drive into traffic and turned it over.

 
SRP 
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03-11-17 07:13 PM - Post#226392    
    In response to SRP

Bruner with the fantastic interception of Chambers and one made FT ices the game. Yale plays Princeton tomorrow.

 
Old Bear 
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03-11-17 09:09 PM - Post#226409    
    In response to SRP

Aiken displayed why he was first team. However, Jones won Coach of the Game.

 
whitakk 
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03-11-17 10:34 PM - Post#226418    
    In response to Old Bear

We'll be seeing a lot more games like this over the next few years:

http://www.nycbuckets.com/2017/03/3-yale-73-2-h arv...

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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03-12-17 01:54 AM - Post#226441    
    In response to whitakk

Not the best played game of the year. Weird feeling with a crowd that would barely fill Payne Whitney or Lavietes. Vacuous feeling imposed by making two NE foes travel 250 and 350 miles to play at Penn and less than an hour from Princeton was surreal. Their regular season games created more energy.

Harvard gutted it out despite awful shooting. Towns/Johnson/Chamber 4 for 30 overall, 2 for 19 on 3's.

Not saying that Yale's defense had no impact, but missed bunnies and wide open 3's were painful. I know this is flawed math, but normal 40% shooting results in roughly 21 additional points. More than enough to overcome a 2 point deficit.

Yale drove the lane with impunity the first half. Harvard did a nice job of adjusting in the second half, holding Copeland scoreless in second half.

Yale freshmen - Oni and Bruner - did just enough for the win down the stretch. Harvard's Aiken carried the Crimson back from a 13 point deficit. Must have felt strange for Coach Amaker who normally eschews hero ball.

Harvard's season low 5 TO's undone by remarkably atrocious shooting.

Good Luck to the Eli's tomorrow.

 
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