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Username Post: Penn game thread        (Topic#20125)
1LotteryPick1969 
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Re: Penn game thread
03-11-17 05:02 PM - Post#226351    
    In response to gokinsmen

  • gokinsmen Said:
I've said it before, but Stephens is our MVP and go-to scorer. He's the true Ivy POY.



Personally I agree.

Penn did a great job keeping Cannady from open looks.

Weisz struggles against quicker opponents.

Amir Bell shooting great from 3--should have had more shots.

 
Tiger69 
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Re: Penn game thread
03-11-17 05:04 PM - Post#226353    
    In response to gokinsmen

To Penn's credit, they neutralized our offense and I was all but certain that we had lost near the end of regulation. But today belongs to Myles. But, if I haven't already said it, THIS TOURNAMENT SUCKS!

 
Coloradotiger 
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03-11-17 05:07 PM - Post#226356    
    In response to SRP

Bell's shutdown of Betley should not be overlooked. It kept us in the game in the first half.

 
Old Bear 
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03-11-17 05:08 PM - Post#226357    
    In response to gokinsmen

Not great games from Weisz and Cook, but Stephens bailed them out. Despite the whining on both the PU and UP Boards, the game was well called.

 
SRP 
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03-11-17 05:11 PM - Post#226361    
    In response to Old Bear

It was better than some of the Saturday games during the season, but not a shining example of officiating.

 
SRP 
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03-11-17 05:13 PM - Post#226362    
    In response to SRP

And it figures that technical difficulties would prevent the ESPNU interview with MH, because everything else that could reduce attention to Princeton's success this year already has.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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03-11-17 05:28 PM - Post#226369    
    In response to SRP

I was playing chess with my granddaughter and watching the game obliquely.

What was the deal with the shoving match with Weisz and the Penn player? Which Penn player was it?

 
bradley 
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03-11-17 05:42 PM - Post#226373    
    In response to SRP

Thanks for the game log.

Out of curiosity, how much did the ESPN crew attempt to justify the idiocy of the IL Tournament and the home court advantage for the Quakers. Gotta sell the product.

Robin Wolfe and the merrymen dodged the bullet as apparently, so did the Tigers. It appears that 19 in a game runner Vermont pulled out a victory in their tournament.

 
SRP 
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03-11-17 05:48 PM - Post#226375    
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Hey, Bradley. Glad to meet your request for a game log.

The announcers were pretty diplomatic, and did talk about how exciting the tourney was, but they did say at the end that Princeton's victory was a blow to the anti-tournament faction as disaster had been averted. Dalen Cuff really knows the Ivy League and is an excellent commentator IMO. He spoke again about how in his days at Columbia they would often feel out of it after going 3-3 early on and that the tourney would have been very popular with his teams.

 
bradley 
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03-11-17 06:02 PM - Post#226378    
    In response to SRP

Tiger shooting stats were brutal. Top guys played a lot of minutes. Hit the sauna and ice tub.

Not surprising at all that Quakers would play them very tough. Quakers deserve credit for turning around their season and playing so much better.

 
sparman 
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03-11-17 06:23 PM - Post#226380    
    In response to bradley

The fact that a team that is eliminated early wants another bite at the apple or that a team that lost twice already makes it a game the third time around is not surprising.

I just don't see how that justifies turning regular season into a meaningless set of de facto scrimmages. If the point of competition isn't to determine a winner, why keep score? The P-P game merely showed that if you keep giving more chances, you can expect an upset.

 
Tiger69 
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03-11-17 07:13 PM - Post#226391    
    In response to sparman

With only one bid, the tourney has it backwards. The 14 game winner should get the NCAA bid and the tourney winner an NIT guarantee or, if it shows well, a shot at a 2nd bid. Motivation for 14 game winner in Tourney is how well it will be seeded in NCAA. If same team wins both, there is no NIT guarantee.

I think that that addresses everything more fairly and provides incentive for everyone in the tourney.

 
SRP 
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03-11-17 07:14 PM - Post#226393    
    In response to Tiger69

Yale upsets Harvard, so the Tiger will be facing the deep blues tomorrow.

 
gokinsmen 
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03-11-17 07:25 PM - Post#226395    
    In response to Tiger69

I fully support a PROPER conference tournament. But there's no way in hell it should take place at a predetermined homecourt like the Palestra. I get the logistical challenges of waiting to see who earns the top seed, but at the very least, it has to be a neutral site. If you can't do that, then don't have a tourney yet. End of story.

Myles Stephens saved the league a lot of embarrassment today.

 
gokinsmen 
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Penn game thread
03-11-17 07:27 PM - Post#226396    
    In response to SRP

  • SRP Said:
Yale upsets Harvard, so the Tiger will be facing the deep blues tomorrow.


If Harvard took it easy last week to give Penn homecourt today, then karma surely bit them in the butt.

 
bradley 
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03-11-17 07:34 PM - Post#226399    
    In response to Tiger69

If Harvard, Yale, Princeton or someone else goes 14-0 next year, will they go thru the same process as the Tigers this year?

Robin may put in a new feature next year that an undefeated team keeps playing until they lose to someone as the Ivies may simply not want to send their "best" team to the Big Dance -- simply brilliant.

 
bradley 
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03-11-17 07:40 PM - Post#226401    
    In response to SRP

Coach Jones is a tough guy. Somehow, he brought Yale back from the abyss towards the end of the regular season and to win today is a testament to the team's mental toughness.

They will give the Tigers a battle and it will be another challenge to beat the same team three times. At least, it will be at a neutral court.

 
sparman 
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03-11-17 08:26 PM - Post#226405    
    In response to Tiger69

That's a very, very sensible approach for 1-bid leagues, but I believe the NCAA requires the tournament champ to be the NCAA rep, and the NCAA controls the NIT entry rules, so it's not happening.

 
Chip Bayers 
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03-11-17 08:27 PM - Post#226406    
    In response to bradley

It was a pretty bad afternoon overall for some key seniors: Weisz played poorly, Howard misses the FT with 12 seconds with a chance to ice the game on two makes, and Chambers throws the ball away on Harvard's final possession.


 
whitakk 
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03-11-17 10:33 PM - Post#226417    
    In response to Chip Bayers

Funny that Princeton's three biggest plays this year have all been offensive rebounds: http://www.nycbuckets.com/2017/03/1-princeton-7 2-4...

 
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