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Old Bear 
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03-18-17 11:01 AM - Post#227536    
    In response to Tiger69

It's a fine art.

 
SRP 
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03-18-17 12:49 PM - Post#227547    
    In response to Old Bear

I'm following the tournament with great interest. No upsets of the 1-4 seeds in the round of 64, which hasn't happened since 2007. Only one five seed, Minnesota, downed by MTSU in what was anything but a surprise. The Blue Raiders are a very good basketball team and Minnesota was absurdly overseeded. We have had three of the six seeds go down to the 11s, but only one of those was a big gambler's upset, 7.5-point underdog USC coming back from a double-digit deficit for the 13th time this season to beat sleeper darling SMU. I loved that, partly because SMU just came off an academic scandal that had them suspended from last year's tournament, but partly because Andy Enfield is the chillest coach around and does a great job.

It's also been fun to watch angry Gregg Marshall of horribly underseeded Wichita State zing the committee at every turn while grinding past Dayton and prepping for his ridiculously difficult second-round game against Kentucky.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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1LotteryPick1969
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03-18-17 04:12 PM - Post#227564    
    In response to sparman

Indeed. My only reason to watch now is to root against Duke/Puke

 
Old Bear 
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03-18-17 05:25 PM - Post#227570    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

Oops, Nova just lost to the Badgers.

 
TheLine 
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03-18-17 05:36 PM - Post#227573    
    In response to Old Bear

WVU beat ND relatively easily.

While ND was a winnable game for Princeton I don't think WVU would have been.



 
penn nation 
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Reg: 12-02-04
03-18-17 08:10 PM - Post#227581    
    In response to Old Bear

That makes me happy. Wisconsin got screwed in the seeding relative to Maryland, but made the most of it while Maryland faltered.

NU just overmatched against Gonzaga. Hopefully next year it can manage a 6 seed or thereabouts to avoid that kind of matchup if it advances to the second round.

 
Tiger69 
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03-18-17 08:43 PM - Post#227584    
    In response to Old Bear

On Wisconsin! I have the same feelings about Villanova that 1LP1969 has about Puke ever since evil Jack Kraft. Villanova can never lose badly enough for me.

 
SRP 
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03-18-17 11:10 PM - Post#227649    
    In response to Tiger69

Don't know why the hate for a classy Villanova program that's been fun to watch. But Wisconsin is pretty cool, too.

I thought that Bucknell did a slightly better job against WVU than ND, outscoring the Mountaineers in fast-break points 14-0 and their speedy guards regularly breaking through the defense. ND fell behind 10-0 and then basically stayed behind by that much the rest of the game, with small fluctuations up or down.

 
SecS3 
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Age: 69
Reg: 03-17-16
03-18-17 11:18 PM - Post#227653    
    In response to SRP

I too despise Puke. Not for the reasons that most people do though. My dislike for Villanova is due to Rollie Massimino(sp?). Slowly coming around. Wright is a decent guy.

 
palestra38 
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Reg: 11-21-04
03-19-17 09:59 AM - Post#227666    
    In response to penn nation

Still feel that Northwestern was overmatched against Gonzaga? Just a horrible horrible call away from a victory.

 
Tiger69 
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03-19-17 10:14 AM - Post#227668    
    In response to SRP

Fair enough. My anti Villanova bias is deep, but I confess very dated-- all the way back to when we had to play them in their wretched field house. Their fans were thugs. It was dangerous to play there, and the coach seemed to encourage the ugliness. I am getting old!

 
penn nation 
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03-19-17 10:15 AM - Post#227669    
    In response to palestra38

They would still have trailed by 3 even if the call would have been made correctly. Pardon had 4 fouls and eventually fouled out anyways--he is NU's only big presence inside. They would have lost a war of attrition given their overall foul situation--all that Gonzaga needed to do was continue to pound it inside.

I haven't watched the entire game to make a comment on it as a whole.

 
palestra38 
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03-19-17 10:39 AM - Post#227671    
    In response to penn nation

Maybe the worst call of all time---hand that blocked a shot came up through the rim. Would have cut it to 3, instead, they assessed a T against the NW coach. Stopped the big run. No you can't guarantee that it would have won the game for Northwestern, but you cannot deny that it affected the outcome (and your point, of course, was that NW was overmatched).

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/story/...

 
penn nation 
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Reg: 12-02-04
03-19-17 10:45 AM - Post#227673    
    In response to palestra38

What makes it ridiculous is when it's juxtaposed against all of the other times the refs deliberate ad nauseum at the video review screens.

 
SRP 
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03-19-17 01:12 PM - Post#227690    
    In response to penn nation

I would favor a bright line rule that any coach stepping on the floor during live play gets a technical foul, just as if he called a timeout he doesn't have. How hard is it to stay behind the fracking line and avoid interfering with play?

 
Tiger69 
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Reg: 11-23-04
03-19-17 02:56 PM - Post#227720    
    In response to SRP

Young coaches, just like players, have to learn to avoid freshmen mistakes (like, keeping your cool to keep a bad situation from getting worse).

 
sparman 
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sparman
Reg: 12-08-04
03-19-17 04:23 PM - Post#227728    
    In response to SRP

When you've been trained at the Durham Basketball Academy it's not easy to understand what "rules" are.

 
penn nation 
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Reg: 12-02-04
Tip off
03-19-17 08:15 PM - Post#227751    
    In response to sparman

I would like to offer up for nomination the no-call on the UNC basket with under a minute to play. It was clearly either a travel or a charge, if not both. Instead, neither was called and UNC pulls ahead by 3.

Some of these games have had very questionable officiating in key moments.

Edited by penn nation on 03-19-17 08:16 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
sparman 
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sparman
Reg: 12-08-04
Re: Tip off
03-20-17 07:57 AM - Post#227772    
    In response to penn nation

Yes, there were so many things that could have been called on that play, I think the refs got confused and could not decide what to do.

 
SRP 
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Reg: 02-04-06
03-20-17 03:55 PM - Post#227807    
    In response to sparman

Sure looked like charging to me.

 
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