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Username Post: Georgetown        (Topic#20181)
digamma 
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03-23-17 01:46 PM - Post#228003    

Should we be worried?

 
Go Green 
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Re: Georgetown
03-23-17 02:03 PM - Post#228012    
    In response to digamma

  • digamma Said:
Should we be worried?



Amaker is showing up on every list of potential replacements for JTIII.

I'd say "yes."


 
Tiger69 
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03-23-17 02:04 PM - Post#228013    
    In response to digamma

Depends on how much $ they throw at him. Good stepping stone to Dook?

 
Tiger69 
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03-23-17 02:09 PM - Post#228014    
    In response to Tiger69

Also, he's got a lot of fancy players who he might like to go with him.... Ugly business. H may have to go with one-and-dones with their next coach

 
Tiger69 
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03-23-17 02:13 PM - Post#228016    
    In response to Tiger69

Seriously, the fact that he's stuck it out this long and his wife has a reason to stay put bodes well for h. I was, frankly, surprised that he didn't take the first good offer after he got his first championship.

 
bradley 
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Re: Georgetown
03-23-17 02:22 PM - Post#228018    
    In response to digamma

I do not think so unless he knows that he is not getting the Duke job when Coach K is done and Tommy wants a shot at a big time program.

Does not make sense considering last year's freshmen class. I think that he will stay put. He is good for the IL.

 
palestra38 
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03-23-17 02:22 PM - Post#228019    
    In response to Tiger69

I think Georgetown will aim higher than Amaker, although that is a possibility.

 
SRP 
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03-23-17 04:15 PM - Post#228031    
    In response to palestra38

An Amaker hire would not appease the fans who wanted JTIII out. It would be seen as "more of the same." They want to get someone non-Ivy, non-academic, "big-time." But I don't know if the job is good enough to attract an already-successful major-school coach. They could try an up-and-coming assistant with recruiting chops from a big-time school that's slightly academically respectable. Is there a Notre Dame assistant who would be plausible?

 
palestra38 
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03-23-17 04:39 PM - Post#228037    
    In response to SRP

As we saw with Harvard and the Amaker hire, if a school with substantial resources wants a guy, they will give him what he wants in terms of pay and support. If they get a big time guy, they will do what is necessary to make him successful.

 
SRP 
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03-23-17 05:08 PM - Post#228041    
    In response to palestra38

It may be a better job than I thought when I posted above. Their DOE-reported men's basketball budget is $11.3 million for 2015, not exactly chicken feed even in the expensive D.C. area.

 
TigerFan 
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03-23-17 06:05 PM - Post#228043    
    In response to SRP

Generally I think its bad form to speculate about other schools' coaches but I'm going to break my own rule and offer two thoughts:

1) Siyani Chambers was a very special Harvard player and one who appeared to have a particularly close relationship with Tommy Amaker. With Chambers now graduating, maybe Amerker will jump for a new opportunity.

2) Amaker has done a hell of a recruiting job the last couple of years. If he wants to leave the program in great shape and if there is a deserving assistant at Harvard that Amaker has a strong relationship with and who he would feel comfortable handing the program off to (I don't know the program well enough to know if this is true or not), that may also make it the right time for him to move on.

 
Southbridge Street 
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03-23-17 06:24 PM - Post#228045    
    In response to TigerFan

Thompson made $3.2 million several years ago, based on IRS filings by the university.

If postings on fan boards are at all credible, those currently in favor as a successor are Smart (Uni of Texas), Crean (ex Indiana, Marquette), Marshall (Kansas State) with some opining that Patrick Ewing is also in the mix. The specter looming over all this is whether John Thompson Jr. will remain a presence on campus, which might favor Ewing.

Pronounced disinterest in Amaker.


 
Old Bear 
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03-23-17 06:54 PM - Post#228047    
    In response to Southbridge Street

Dan Hurley may also be in the mix.

 
digamma 
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03-23-17 07:05 PM - Post#228049    
    In response to TigerFan

  • TigerFan Said:


1) Siyani Chambers was a very special Harvard player and one who appeared to have a particularly close relationship with Tommy Amaker. With Chambers now graduating, maybe Amerker will jump for a new opportunity.





This is my biggest concern about the whole thing. Timing seems a little different with Siyani leaving.

That said, it arguably is a little more of the same for Georgetown, so I could see them looking elsewhere.


 
Mike Porter 
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03-23-17 09:42 PM - Post#228054    
    In response to digamma

I'm not convinced Coach Amaker would be interested. Yes more money, but more pressure at a place that's been down for a few years and where fans expectations are probably too high (even for a historically great program).

Why do that when he is already well paid, at place where he could coach forever, when he is still recruiting like a machine?

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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03-24-17 12:16 AM - Post#228058    
    In response to Mike Porter

Siyani was special.
Bryce is off to a great start.

Same goes for Towns (Wes), Lewis (Zena), and Bassey
(Okolie).

If Amaker leaves, it would only be because of his career path. Frankly, leaving Harvard only puts another test and added risk in the way of his presumed return to Duke.

 
bradley 
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03-24-17 07:58 AM - Post#228062    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

I agree that Georgetown does not make sense for a number of reasons. Coach K is 70 years old with health issues. Amaker is a good age to take over the reins if Coach K retires with the 3-5 years. Why take the risk to go to Georgetown if he is truly a candidate for the Duke job.

Although Harvard looks stacked for the next several years in the IL, there is a question if this team is good enough to play at a very high level, i.e. success at the NCAA Tournament. They took a step back over the last three games of this season. You would think that Coach would have a pretty good read as to their true upside. If he has doubts that may become a factor in his decision making process. He probably knows that next year will be challenging even in the IL if Mason is fully recovered and Much can play.

 
PennFan10 
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03-24-17 08:41 AM - Post#228064    
    In response to bradley

I think the Amaker to Duke hypothesis is not something he would base decisions on today. Coach K is old but you can find stories of his retirement going back at least 5 years and he has never indicated he would step down anytime soon.

Even if he surprised us all with a retirement today Amaker is far from a sure thing and probably not even the top candidate on the list that includes Chris Collins, Bobby Hurley, Jeff Capel, and even Johnny Dawkins.

I don't think TA is making decisions based on anything that may or may not happen at Duke.

 
Tiger69 
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03-24-17 11:17 AM - Post#228069    
    In response to PennFan10

TA is, in part, responsible for the the dramatic rise in talent level throughout the IL over the past few years, coupled with the more generous financial aid now available. Unfortunately, the "rising tide" has favored a few schools more than others. But, even with his star-studded freshmen, TA hasn't demonstrated that he has anything on the Ps or yale. There is little reason IMHO to believe that his stock will rise any farther going forward if he remains at h. In addition, it doesn't appear that, whenever it opens up, TA has any edge on the Dook job. So, that leaves him with the decision to either a) settle into a long, secure tenure in Cambridge at a comfortable, but not eye-popping pay rate or, b) cash in for a few years at another level. The longer he stays at h, the more he "gives up" in big compensation, and the deeper his personal and family ties become in Cambridge. Maybe h will even give him an honorary "h" sweater for his "sacrifice"

 
Go Green 
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03-24-17 12:13 PM - Post#228071    
    In response to Tiger69

  • Tiger69 Said:
But, even with his star-studded freshmen, TA hasn't demonstrated that he has anything on the Ps or yale.



How many other Ivy schools have won five titles in a row besides Harvard under TA?

 
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