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Username Post: 2017-18 Basketball Schedule        (Topic#20193)
Masters Student
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Age: 68
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07-07-17 07:33 PM - Post#230603    
    In response to Bryan

The optimism is great but the loss of Weisz and Cook is very big. Besides their outstanding play, they were incredible leaders. They had a perfect blend of athletic and leadership qualities. When games are tight in the second half this year, they will really missed especially during the first half of the year.

The Tigers have talent but can Stephens/Cannady and/or Bell take it to another level?? Several other Ivy teams will be improved as well. Time will tell.

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Age: 69
Reg: 12-04-15
07-08-17 03:55 PM - Post#230615    
    In response to bradley

Challenging schedule, indeed. But at least we will not spend the entire first month on the road, as was the case in '16-'17. I think it is reasonable to expect 45 ppg from Stephens, Cannady and Bell. The key to success will be our ability to defend, as it was last season. If we hold Ivy teams under 60 we won't need a lot of scoring from the rest of the roster to be in every game. 10-4, even 9-5, gets us to The Palestra where anything can happen.

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Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
07-08-17 10:11 PM - Post#230619    
    In response to Bryan

I don't know about other Ivy teams, but Princeton has twice won the league championship after losing two first team All Ivy players.

In 1962, Pete Campbell and Al Kaemmerlen were first team All Ivy and the following year Princeton won the league title in Bill Bradley's first year on the varsity.

And in 1976, Armond Hill and Barnes Hauptfuhrer were both first team All Ivy; Hauptfuhrer graduated and Hill, a junior, left for the pros and the following year Princeton won the Ivy title, led by Frank Sowinski, Bill Omeltchenko, Bob Roma, and Bobby Slaughter.

So it can be done!

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Age: 63
Reg: 11-14-16
07-09-17 02:40 AM - Post#230620    
    In response to Tiger81

Appreciate the encouraging research, tiger81. It can be done.

I think we all agree that we will need a significant contribution from the freshman class. If it doesn't come early, the pre-season could be tough to watch. My hope is when the league starts we have a freshman starting forward ( unless Alec Brennan truly blossoms) and a freshman first guard off the bench.

Has anyone seen any of the freshmen play, or run across any knowledgable commentary on the prospect of any of them contributing soon ?

Posts: 107

Loc: Philadelphia
Reg: 11-21-04
07-09-17 06:32 PM - Post#230628    
    In response to Tiger81

Thanks for the reminders about Princeton having twice won the Ivy title after losing 2 first team All-Ivy players. After reading your post I went back and checked the history on the Ivy League sports website. There were no additional examples for Princeton. The only other Ivy school I found that had lost 2 first team all-Ivy players and then won (or tied) for the league title was Penn. They have done it 3 times. In 1973 after losing Corky Calhoun and Bob Morse. In 1980 (playoff win against Princeton) after losing Tony Prince and Matt White. In 1996 (lost playoff to Princeton) after losing Matt Maloney and Jerome Allen. I learned something from this- it's not as unlikely as I had thought.

Posts: 131

Age: 36
Reg: 01-08-11
07-09-17 09:01 PM - Post#230639    
    In response to Bryan

This is a different league than the ancient history you cite. Princeton will have a nice team but will probably not finish in the top three. The best hope for Princeton fans is what they hated most last year - the four team tournament. If the tournament was going to be at Jadwin next year I might have even liked your chances.

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Reg: 02-04-06
07-10-17 07:48 PM - Post#230690    
    In response to westphillywarrior

We'll see, The only specific buzz I heard about the freshmen was Mike. James saying coaches around the league expected Much to have a good chance of being an impact player, better than some other highly rated guys.

PhD Student
Posts: 1988

Reg: 11-23-04
07-10-17 11:44 PM - Post#230691    
    In response to westphillywarrior

Even with the loss of three fine players, we have plenty of high level talent and depth returning in addition to several promising freshmen. Princeton fans have reason to be disappointed if the team does not place in the top three. Other than the Tigers, H,y, and Columbia appear to be the most talented teams with Penn as an outside shot. But, I'll still go with H, P and y, though not necessarily in that order.🐅

Masters Student
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Age: 68
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07-13-17 12:17 PM - Post#230867    
    In response to JadwinGeorge

Good points. Challenge is that the Tigers during the first ten games of the season will face pre-season poll opponents --- USC (#8-10), Miami (#11-15) and Butler (#23-25) on the road. Several of the other games BYU, Monmouth and St. Josephs (road) are going to very challenging as well.

The Tigers could be 3-7 after the first ten games and play reasonably well but it should toughen their hides for conference play.

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