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Username Post: 2018 Ivy Tournament Back At The Palestra        (Topic#20262)
Tiger69 
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05-18-17 02:16 PM - Post#229474    
    In response to palestra38

Refresh me. How did we get to this stupid tournament? Oh yeah, I remember. The players and coaches and ADs allegedly wanted the extra games.

How about THREE games with each league opponent or 21 total games per team. 1 at each home court and the third on a neutral court of some other Ivy, perhaps as a doubleheader with another Ivy's home game.

Bottom line: there still seems to be no good format or reason for the still-idiotic tournament.

 
palestra38 
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05-18-17 02:20 PM - Post#229475    
    In response to Tiger69

Could always steal a couple of Patriot League teams or see if Amherst and Williams want to step up to Division 1 and expand the League for extra games.

But we're in agreement that the tournament destroys what has been great about the Ivy season for the last 62 years. Just got lucky last year that it didn't change the result. But we all know that it will if we keep playing it.

 
SRP 
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05-18-17 05:37 PM - Post#229477    
    In response to palestra38

My idea to put the tournament on a cruise ship is looking better and better. You could even have it stop in Boston to pick up the New Englanders before proceeding south or vice versa. Make it a real vacation event.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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05-18-17 07:50 PM - Post#229480    
    In response to SRP

Mohegan Sun is landed cruise ship.

 
Tiger69 
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05-19-17 02:14 AM - Post#229481    
    In response to SRP

Shouldn't have any problem filling the stands. Any turbulence at sea will add an extra measure of mystery and excitement to free throws and outside shooting.

 
Go Green 
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05-19-17 06:52 AM - Post#229486    
    In response to SRP

  • SRP Said:
My idea to put the tournament on a cruise ship is looking better and better. You could even have it stop in Boston to pick up the New Englanders before proceeding south or vice versa. Make it a real vacation event.



Any aircraft carriers on the East Coast?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/20 12/1...

 
penn nation 
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05-19-17 07:04 AM - Post#229488    
    In response to Go Green

Play it on the Intrepid.

 
Silver Maple 
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05-19-17 08:43 AM - Post#229490    
    In response to penn nation

I think a higher-tech solution might be available.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/S.H.I.E.L.D._Helicarr...

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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05-19-17 10:11 AM - Post#229491    
    In response to Silver Maple

Harvard's visit to Atlantis on Paradise Island a few years ago went very well. The players loved it!

Makes for a great spring break for all involved and it takes less time to fly there than it does for more than half the league to drive to the Palestra.



 
palestra38 
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05-19-17 10:36 AM - Post#229492    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

$69 flights on JetBlue from Logan to PHL

 
penn nation 
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05-19-17 10:53 AM - Post#229493    
    In response to palestra38

And ultra-convenient 22 minute ride on SEPTA Commuter Rail to U City stop. 5 minute walk to the Palestra.

 
rbg 
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12-15-17 01:03 PM - Post#240274    
    In response to penn nation

Stephen Edelson at the Asbury Park Press has an opinion piece regarding the MAAC's upcoming decision on the future location of its post-season tournament. I think it touches on a number of issues that have been discussed on the board over the last few years.

http://www.app.com/story/sports/college/ monmouth-u...

Presently, the MAAC is at the Times Union Center in Albany. The TUC is the home venue for Siena, and Edelson posits that the home advantage may have helped Siena upset number 1 seed Monmouth.

The TUC seats 15,000. Although Siena has the largest attendance in the league, the arena is mostly empty for the men's and women's tournaments. The MassMutual Center in Springfield (MA) hosted it before moving to Albany and it had worse attendance.

The TUC, MassMutual Center, new Nassau County (Long Island) Coliseum, and Atlantic City Boardwalk Hall are the four venues that have put in bids for both MAAC Tournaments starting in 2020. While no place is ideal, the writer thinks the the AC location will be a destination site that will get enough fans to cover the associated costs.

Seems like a persuasive article for those that want to see the 2019 Ivy Tournament at Mohegan Sun.

 
palestra38 
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12-15-17 01:40 PM - Post#240277    
    In response to rbg

Well obviously there is a difference between a league (MAAC) that has to pay for an arena for a tournament and cannot fill it no matter where it is and one between a league (Ivies) that can use one of the great college basketball arenas in the nation for free and come close to if not selling it out.

So I disagree that there really is anything analogous here, other than the obvious unfairness of having to compete in the home arena of one of the teams. I think Maryland used to complain about that every year when the ACC tournament was held in Greensboro.

 
mrjames 
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12-15-17 02:04 PM - Post#240279    
    In response to palestra38

Again, the 2019 Ivy Tournament will not be at The Palestra from what I understand.

 
palestra38 
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12-15-17 02:11 PM - Post#240280    
    In response to mrjames

So will it be in Princeton (the only other Ivy arena capable of holding it) or will the Ivies pay for what likely will be a mostly empty arena?


 
mrjames 
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12-15-17 04:11 PM - Post#240286    
    In response to palestra38

I don't believe anything is determined beyond that. While I 100% understand your viewpoint, I don't know that Princeton is viewed as the *only* other league building capable of hosting the tourney. And I do think a neutral venue is on the table.

If things ever settle down for me, I might start digging into this a little more again, but it's been real tough to carve out time for hobbies recently. Thank goodness all my code/reports are (essentially) automated!

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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12-15-17 04:24 PM - Post#240287    
    In response to mrjames

You can find me at the buffet and the Black Jack tables. I’ll be patient

 
SRP 
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12-15-17 05:18 PM - Post#240289    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Should just work in with the Big East at MSG. "Mind if we have a little run here?"

 
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