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06-02-17 08:33 AM - Post#229790
La Salle has posted its non-conference schedule and it notes that the Explorers will visit Penn on Monday November 13th.
http://www.goexplorers.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbba...
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06-02-17 01:53 PM - Post#229801
In response to rbg
OK. That's at least one game we know of. Let's see how long it takes for Penn to release its own out of conference schedule this year. A pool to guess?
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06-03-17 01:54 PM - Post#229822
In response to SteveChop
NYC Buckets has a schedule tracker and they're nice and localized. Far and away the best consolidated spot for schedules is the Mega Schedule spreadsheet on Reddit. You can sort by conference.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/c omment...
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06-04-17 12:49 PM - Post#229836
In response to pennhoops
Thanks for that referral. Unfortunately, the LaSalle game is the only game shown for Penn at this time. Isn't the Ivy schedule already in place other than the two games with your travel partner?
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06-05-17 09:01 AM - Post#229840
In response to SteveChop
If it is no one has made it available publicly.
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06-05-17 09:08 PM - Post#229859
In response to pennhoops
It may be that they are still tinkering with it. For example, trying to set up some men - women doubleheaders.
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SteveChop
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06-06-17 11:52 AM - Post#229868
In response to Glenflesk
That would be interesting. As you may know, the two last year came about because Princeton did not want its players traveling the weekend before their ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS January finals. This time it would be done (if it is done) with intent. We'll see.
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Re: 2017-2018 Schedule
06-08-17 10:38 AM - Post#229923
In response to rbg
I was reading the other day (I think that it was on the NYC Buckets web site) that the men's team is slated to participate in the Gulf Coast Showcase in Estero, FL on November 20-22.
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Re: 2017-2018 Schedule
06-08-17 10:48 AM - Post#229926
In response to 1979Quakers
Ahh, that's at the Germain Arena, home of the world famous Florida Everblades. Nice minor league arena. I would not expect this to be North Carolina in the tournament. Great logo for that team--I bought a T-shirt with it. https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http:// florid...
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Re: 2017-2018 Schedule
06-08-17 12:18 PM - Post#229932
In response to palestra38
It looks to be, pretty much, a mid-major tournament that has been around since 2013. Last year, Houston and George Mason were two of the teams (Houston won the tournament). I have yet to see any teams (other than the blurb I saw about Penn being one of the participants).
Florida Everblades. Love that name. 
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06-08-17 12:38 PM - Post#229933
In response to 1979Quakers
Could you post the link about Penn in the event? I'm not finding anything.
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06-08-17 01:16 PM - Post#229934
In response to pennhoops
I am trying to find where I saw it. I had it on Tuesday but needed to register with this message board (I'm new). I know that I was under NYC Buckets but cannot figure where.
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06-08-17 02:19 PM - Post#229936
In response to 1979Quakers
Here it is:
http://www.nycbuckets.com/2017/06/non-conferenc e-s...
Also includes a 12/4 game @ Howard
Edited by pennhoops on 06-08-17 02:19 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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06-08-17 02:22 PM - Post#229937
In response to pennhoops
What's weird about the Gulf Coast Showcase - which seems like a very cool MM event, tbh - is that at least last year, all the participants had to host a non-DI team prior to the tournament. Very odd.
http://gcs.bdglobalsports.com/
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06-08-17 06:00 PM - Post#229950
In response to pennhoops
It's kind of fun projecting the team's possible opponents for a given season. Regarding teams that the Quakers played last season, we can eliminate a return game at the Palestra for Miami as they have released their non-conference schedule and Penn was not on it. I would not be surprised if Central Florida plays at the Palestra and the Quakers play at Fairfield as part of a 2d half of a home-and-home. Drexel should be on the schedule as well as, possibly, Navy. With the projected Gulf Coast Showcase,the Ivy schedule, and the Big Five schedule, there really are not that many non-conference games the team could possibly play, assuming that it is a 27 or 28 game season. I'd love to see a Kentucky, UCLA, or Arizona (or any other big name team) play at the Palestra but know, in reality, that will not happen.
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06-09-17 12:22 PM - Post#229969
In response to 1979Quakers
It's a 27 game season (unless you play in an exempt tournament) - this was brought by the Ivy League geniuses as part of the creation of the Ivy Tournament last year. This means that if you don't get to the Ivy Tournament, you get screwed out of gate receipts or other compensation for one game. Thanks Ivy League!
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07-06-17 01:07 PM - Post#230556
In response to SteveChop
With Princeton releasing almost all of its schedule, we can note the non-Penn/Princeton portion of the Quakers' Ivy League conference games for the 2018 season.
http://www.goprincetontigers.com/news/2017/5/16/20...
Friday 1/26/18 vs Columbia
Saturday 1/27/18 vs Cornell
Friday 2/2/18 vs Brown
Saturday 2/3/18 vs Yale
Friday 2/9/18 at Dartmouth
Saturday 2/10/18 at Harvard
Friday 2/16/18 at Columbia
Saturday 2/17/18 at Cornell
Friday 2/23/18 vs Harvard
Saturday 2/24/18 vs Dartmouth
Friday 3/2/18 at Yale
Saturday 3/3/18 at Brown
Saturday 3/10/17 Ivy Semifinal, The Palestra
Sunday 3/11/17 Ivy Final, The Palestra
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07-06-17 04:31 PM - Post#230565
In response to rbg
Aren't the first 2 dates supposed to be 1/12 and 1/13?
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rbg
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07-06-17 10:04 PM - Post#230569
In response to DJ Jazzy Jeff
I thought I read it as 1/26/18 and 1/27/18 earlier today. On 7/5, those dates were posted on the Princeton message board, and tweeted out by Jonathan Tannenwald, https://twitter.com/pretzel_logic/status/ 882748748...
Thanks for the update and correction.
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07-07-17 09:18 AM - Post#230574
In response to rbg
I wonder if Princeton has listed the games on the 12th and 13th correctly.
Last year, Penn had home games against Columbia on a Friday night and Cornell on a Sunday afternoon. This would be the same order for this upcoming season.
The schedule for the Cornell women's team has them visiting Penn on Friday the 12th and Princeton on the 13th.
Since there appears to be men's and women's double-headers at Penn and Princeton that weekend, it would appear to be more logical for Penn vs Cornell on the 12th and Penn vs Columbia on the 13th.
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07-07-17 11:33 AM - Post#230578
In response to rbg
And of course, here we are as usual with Princeton releasing its schedule (which DOES give us some of the Penn schedule) but no release by Penn. Wonder how late we can release it this year.
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07-07-17 04:43 PM - Post#230596
In response to SteveChop
The Cornell men's basketball schedule is now available. The Big Red will be coming down to visit Penn for Friday January 12th.
Sorry for all the earlier problems -- this now looks like 12/14 of Penn's conference schedule.
Friday 1/12/18 vs Cornell
Saturday 1/27/18 vs Columbia
Friday 2/2/18 vs Brown
Saturday 2/3/18 vs Yale
Friday 2/9/18 at Dartmouth
Saturday 2/10/18 at Harvard
Friday 2/16/18 at Columbia
Saturday 2/17/18 at Cornell
Friday 2/23/18 vs Harvard
Saturday 2/24/18 vs Dartmouth
Friday 3/2/18 at Yale
Saturday 3/3/18 at Brown
Saturday 3/10/17 Ivy Semifinal, The Palestra
Sunday 3/11/17 Ivy Final, The Palestra
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07-08-17 02:55 PM - Post#230614
In response to rbg
Thanks. I was primarily referring to our out of conference schedule which annually seems to be a mystery. Apparently, Cornell and Princeton are able to figure theirs out.
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07-10-17 09:53 AM - Post#230651
In response to rbg
If this year's schedule follows last year's pattern, Penn and Princeton will play their first game on January 6th. It should be a Penn home game since last year the first one was at Princeton. If this is so, Penn will be playing their first five league games at home so a fast start will be imperative.
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07-13-17 02:47 PM - Post#230876
In response to barryw
The website Blogging the Bracket, which lists all the early season ttiyrnaments has Penn playing in the Gulf Coast tournament. The strange thing is no other schools have been named
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07-13-17 03:42 PM - Post#230881
In response to barryw
Then we better win.
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07-13-17 04:01 PM - Post#230882
In response to Silver Maple
Sort of like going on a basketball trip to Italy and having no games scheduled.
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07-13-17 04:02 PM - Post#230883
In response to barryw
It's called the Gulf Coast Showcase.
Clearly, then, we're being showcased.
[Note--clicking on the site takes you to the bracket and teams. And Penn aint one of 'em.]
Edited by penn nation on 07-13-17 04:06 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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07-13-17 04:38 PM - Post#230884
In response to penn nation
The only brackets I saw were for last year's tournament. I see nothing for 2017. Link if you have something for it
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07-19-17 03:10 PM - Post#231066
In response to palestra38
Penn opens at Fairfield Friday November 10th
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07-19-17 03:16 PM - Post#231068
In response to barryw
Is that a tournament game or are we not in it?
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07-19-17 06:28 PM - Post#231094
In response to palestra38
We owe Fairfield a home game after they visited the Palestra last year.
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07-19-17 11:05 PM - Post#231097
In response to Stuart Suss
Could be a nice little road trip - basketball at Fairfield Friday night and football at Harvard on Saturday. Any place to get a drink up there?
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07-22-17 09:03 PM - Post#231179
In response to gopenngo
Gulf Coast Showcase, Nov. 20-22, Estero, FL
https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2017/6/7/157368...
"Quarterfinals (Nov. 20)
Penn Quakers (Ivy) (NYC Buckets)
7 TBA
Semifinals (Nov. 21)
Finals (Nov. 22)"
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07-24-17 08:42 AM - Post#231198
In response to Glenflesk
Looks like the field on our Italian trip.
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07-24-17 10:43 AM - Post#231200
In response to barryw
November 11, not November 10 per the Fairfield U. website
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07-24-17 05:45 PM - Post#231209
In response to palestra38
Looks like the field on our Italian trip.
This post is so good it deserves acknowledgement. Brilliant.
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rbg
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07-24-17 11:47 PM - Post#231218
In response to TheLine
Penn at Dayton Saturday December 9
http://www.daytonflyers.com/documents/2017/7/20// 2...
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07-25-17 08:02 AM - Post#231227
In response to rbg
So with the 27 game schedule it looks like Penn has one unknown non-league game left. Penn is currently at 23 games with Temple, St. Joe's and Drexel still to be added the schedule.
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07-25-17 12:12 PM - Post#231255
In response to DJ Jazzy Jeff
Don't we get extra games with the early season tournament?
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1979Quakers
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07-25-17 12:23 PM - Post#231257
In response to DJ Jazzy Jeff
My guess is that the 27th game will be a trip to Lafayette.
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08-01-17 08:03 PM - Post#231483
In response to section110
I stand corrected, as Drexel has released their non-conference schedule and Penn isn't on it. So Temple and St. Joe's are 2 of the 4 remaining non-conference games for Penn.
I doubt that Lafayette will be on it this year....
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08-01-17 10:10 PM - Post#231487
In response to DJ Jazzy Jeff
Lafayette and Navy will both be on the docket I believe.
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08-01-17 10:14 PM - Post#231488
In response to DJ Jazzy Jeff
Lafayette and Navy will both be on the docket I believe.
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08-01-17 10:23 PM - Post#231489
In response to PennFan10
I believe Lafayette's Navy will dock, and Drexel will duck the Quackers.
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08-11-17 02:18 PM - Post#231853
In response to Glenflesk
Penn will play Penn State-Brandywine in an opening round game of the Gulf Coast Showcase on November 18th at the Palestra.
http://www.psubrandywineathletics.com/sports/mbkb/...
Also, per Blogging The Bracket, Manhattan is now listed as one of the participants in the tournament.
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08-11-17 02:56 PM - Post#231859
In response to 1979Quakers
Per the article:
Brandywine men's basketball has played at the Palestra five times since 1995, most recently on January 20, 2005, suffering a 55-48 setback to the Quakers' junior varsity squad. Each of the teams' meetings at the Palestra came while Brandywine was allowed only two-year eligibility for student-athletes by PSUAC rule.
I believe this is a Div 3 program stepping up from Junior College status
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08-11-17 06:35 PM - Post#231876
In response to palestra38
Florida Atlantic is another team that will appear in the Gulf Coast Showcase. So far, four are known (Penn, PSU-Brandywine, Manhattan, and Florida Atlantic)
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/fau-owls/fl-sp -...
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08-11-17 06:57 PM - Post#231877
In response to 1979Quakers
As Pennhoops noted in June, last year every team participating in the Gulf Coast Showcase hosted a home game against a Non D-1 opponent.
I believe that this year, like last year, the eight teams in Estero (and Penn's three opponents) will all be D-1 programs.
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08-11-17 10:55 PM - Post#231883
In response to Stuart Suss
So does this count as one of those tournaments we can only do 2 out of every 4 years?!?
If so that's a pretty pathetic lineup to justify using one of our tournament opps we can only do 2 out of 4 years. We really couldn't get into a better one?
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08-15-17 01:07 PM - Post#232014
In response to Mike Porter
The Quakers will host Navy on November 15th.
http://www.navysports.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched /na...
Over at Blogging the Bracket, the Gulf Coast Showcase now lists Penn, FAU, Manhattan and Towson with 4 TBD. The Penn State - Brandywine game is not listed on its Non-Bracketed game.
So far, the non-conference is -
11/11/17 at Fairfield
11/13/17 vs La Salle
11/15/17 vs Navy
11/18/17 vs Penn State-Brandywine
11/20/17 at Gulf Coast Showcase (Estero, FL)
11/21/17 at Gulf Coast Showcase (Estero, FL)
11/22/17 at Gulf Coast Showcase (Estero, FL)
11/25/17 at Monmouth
12/04/17 at Howard (not sure if this is home or away)
12/09/17 at Dayton
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08-15-17 03:18 PM - Post#232021
In response to rbg
Obviously Villanova, Temple and St Joe's have to be added. So not many games left to fill in.
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08-15-17 03:58 PM - Post#232024
In response to PennFan10
If Penn St. Brandywine is part of the Gulf Coast Classic, that game, and the three games in Florida count as 1 game for scheduling purposes.
We would then be awaiting dates for Temple, St. Joe, at Villanova, at Lafayette and TWO other opponents.
Howard University has not officially confirmed a December 4 game with Penn. We are depending on other sources for the scheduling of that game.
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08-15-17 04:06 PM - Post#232025
In response to Stuart Suss
Didn't Penn already play at Lafayette in 2015?
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08-15-17 04:39 PM - Post#232029
In response to DJ Jazzy Jeff
Penn and Lafayette have played each other almost every year since Fran O'Hanlon left Fran Dunphy's staff to become the head coach at Lafayette.
And switch opponents on February 23 and February 24. The Dartmouth home game is now on Friday night and the Harvard home game is now on Saturday night. This switch was probably instigated by Princeton based upon ESPN U agreeing to televise the Harvard at Princeton game if it were moved to Friday night.
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rbg
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08-18-17 11:15 PM - Post#232224
In response to Stuart Suss
According to Princeton Basketball:
http://goprincetontigers.com/schedule.aspx?schedul...
Friday 1/05/18 vs Princeton
Tuesday 2/06/18 at Princeton
For Penn, the first game will be during winter break. The second will be between a home game against Yale on the 3rd and a road game against Dartmouth on the 9th.
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08-19-17 06:25 PM - Post#232237
In response to rbg
Thank god we didn't stop scheduling Princeton games during school breaks, even if it can't be spring break.
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08-19-17 10:34 PM - Post#232241
In response to rbg
Will either or both of these be doubleheaders with the women?
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08-24-17 09:16 PM - Post#232388
In response to SteveChop
Temple announced today that they'll play Penn at the Palestra on Saturday, Jan. 20. Time TBD, but at least we know the day of the week. (And it's a good day of the week.)
http://owlsports.com/news/2017/8/24/wiscon sin-high...
For those interested, Temple won't play a home game until Dec. 6, but from then through Dec. 16 will host Wisconsin, St. Joe's, Villanova and Drexel in succession.
Back I go to lurking and covering that other sport I cover. See you along the way.
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09-01-17 10:24 AM - Post#232545
In response to DCAJedi
Here it is
http://www.pennathletics.com/news/men-s-basketball ...
I just need to add how profoundly odd it is that we're playing two MAC teams in one year.
Edited by pennhoops on 09-01-17 10:26 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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09-01-17 10:45 AM - Post#232546
In response to pennhoops
Interesting the Villanova game is being played at a small venue on Nova campus. Nova is playing most of their home games this year at Wells Fargo Arena. Must have been a scheduling conflict
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09-01-17 11:23 AM - Post#232547
In response to PennFan10
Consider me officially ticked off about playing Nova in the old Cat House. This seats 1500 for a game that could draw 4x that easily. Why not move it to the Palestra? Jay? Of course that would make all 4 big 5 games at 'home' ;-)
The rest of the schedule raises to big alarm bells save for the all the road games in February. At least the road PU game comes off a home weekend.
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09-01-17 11:29 AM - Post#232548
In response to PennFan10
I'm with Streamers on this. That place was/is also a bandbox where Villanova used to get some unbelievable calls for them in the 60s and 70s. I wanted to go there for years and, before it was to close, went there for a game that featured the minor league Philly team somewhere in the late 80s.
Maybe Nova felt that it should not play in the Palestra in memory of Rollie. 
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09-01-17 05:13 PM - Post#232563
In response to SteveChop
FWIW, looking at Bart Torvik's site for 2017-2018 projections -
Ivy:
Harvard 88
Princeton 91
Yale 100
Penn 168
Cornell 186
Dartmouth 250
Columbia 277
Brown 332
Non-Conference Opponents:
Villanova 8 (1st - Big East)
Temple 57 (4th - American)
St. Joe's 78 (3rd - A10)
Dayton 90 (4th - A10)
La Salle 101 (5th - A10)
Monmouth 134 (3rd - MAAC)
Toledo 176 (4th - MAC)
Navy 182 (2nd - Patriot)
UNI 195 (6th - MAC)
Fairfield 241 (6th - MAAC)
Lafayette 305 (9th - Patriot)
Howard 335 (10th - MEAC)
Delaware State 342 (12th - MEAC)
PSU-Brandywine ---
Gulf Coast Tournament Opponents - 2nd and 3rd Games:
FAU 173 (7th - CUSA) or Towson 155 (3rd - CAA)
Missouri State 86 (2nd - MVC), Georgia Southern 136 (2nd - Sun Belt), Manhattan 149 (4th - MAAC), or UMKC 300 (7th - WAC)
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09-01-17 06:22 PM - Post#232564
In response to SteveChop
Couldn't they cut a deal with Lower Merion High for their place?
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09-01-17 11:10 PM - Post#232565
In response to PennFan10
If you are talking about Villanova's old field house, I was there in 1966 when we beat them 48-37 in a very tight, exciting game. But, the V fans were horrible -- especially when we had clinched the win in the final minute. They threw all sorts of things from the seats above the court. The refs stopped the game and the PA announcer warned the fans. Butch van Breda Kolff, our coach, said that he would never play there again. The V fans did the same thing against St Johns later in that season and the refs called a forfeit. I've thought of Villanova as bush league ever since that game.
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