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Username Post: 2019 Recruiting        (Topic#20335)
besnoah 
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06-21-17 11:18 PM - Post#230278    

Was waiting for an offer before starting this and it looks like one was given yesterday.

JerseyShoreWarriors‏
University of Pennsylvania offers Jack Forrest

Obviously the rest of this stuff is preliminary contact to players and should be taken with the grainiest grains of salt:

CP25 2019 (Florida)‏
6'5 CG DJ Henderson is receiving interest from Penn

Dinos Trigonis
2019 nat'l sleeper 6-4 G Robert McRae (Fairfax/LA CA) has heard from Wash St, UCSB, Pepperdine, Penn, Montana, San Jose St., UCSB & Denver

Beach City Hoops
2019 SF Jaime Jaquez heard from Memphis (Offered), Gonzaga, USC, UCLA, Stanford, Yale, SMU, Penn, UNLV among others yesterday.

Team Rio National‏
Jalen Gaffney PG (2019) Florida,UConn,Drexel,Rich mond,Stanford,StJohns,StJ oe,Penn,Neastern, Stonybrook,Tulane,E.Ky,Colgate, Hofstra as☎️open

ARosenfeldDVHR
2019 big man Jon Bol Ajak (@TeamFinalHoops /Church Farm) tells me he's heard from UConn, St. Joe's, and Penn today

ARosenfeldDVHR
2019 PG Judah Jordan (Team Melo/Capitol Christian) tells me he's heard from Maryland, GMU, St Joes, Penn, ODU, Yale, and Holy Cross today

Luc Smith
6'9 2019 Max Lorca has heard from UCONN, Ohio State, Stanford, Georgia Tech, BC, Rice, George Washington, Yale, Penn, Columbia, & USF.

Expressions ❌EYBL
2019 6"6 G Preston Santos heard from West Virginia, Umass, Penn & Delaware today.

Luc Smith‏
Wilbraham & Monson Academy & New Height's 6'4 2019 G Idan Tretout has heard from UMass, Penn, GW, Rice, Yale, Brown, Holy Cross & Hartford.

Josh Verlin
Haverford School (Pa.) 2019 F Christian Ray's contact list: Yale, Mt. St. Mary's, 'Gate, Elon, Holy Cross, Columbia, Penn, Laf., St. Joe's

Robert Rogers‏
Wofford, Rice, UPenn, Davidson contacted 2019 6'5" SG Colby Rogers of Newton

Pat Lawless‏
'19 PG Noah Kamba of WrightWay Skills heard from Providence, UNLV, UMass, Northeastern, UPenn, Holy Cross, Notre Dame, Brown & Davidson.

Coach Ceasar‏
Ben Eke '19 has heard from Yale, Holy Cross, and UPenn today.

 
20Penn14 
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Re: 2019 Recruiting
06-24-17 09:46 AM - Post#230337    
    In response to besnoah

According to COBL, Peter Sorber has received interest from Penn

(near bottom of article)
http://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/s...

 
besnoah 
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06-27-17 08:50 PM - Post#230405    
    In response to 20Penn14

From Sunday:

Pat Lawless‏
Xander Alvarado, a class of 2019 guard playing for the NY Rens, went on an unofficial visit to UPenn today.

 
rbg 
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07-03-17 09:37 AM - Post#230521    
    In response to besnoah

Lucas Monroe of Abington has gotten offers from Colgate and La Salle. He says that Penn and Princeton have given him a good deal of attention, while Yale has shown some interest.

http://www.scout.com/college/villanova/sto ry/17886...

 
20Penn14 
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07-15-17 12:07 PM - Post#230933    
    In response to rbg

According to COBL, Christian Ings is recieving interest from Penn

http://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/s...

 
20Penn14 
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07-23-17 01:39 PM - Post#231188    
    In response to 20Penn14

Per COBL, Xander Rice has interest from Penn


http://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/s...

 
20Penn14 
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08-10-17 08:06 PM - Post#231829    
    In response to 20Penn14

EJ Jarvis
@j4rv15_

Happy to say that I have received my fifth offer from UPenn!

 
20Penn14 
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08-22-17 04:05 PM - Post#232302    
    In response to 20Penn14

Pat Lawless‏
@PatLawless_

Jonah Charles, a class of 2019 wing from Rutgers Prep (NJ), has picked up an offer from UPenn.

 
besnoah 
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09-14-17 03:14 PM - Post#232842    
    In response to 20Penn14

While at Pacifica Christian, Penn made an offer:

Verbal Commits‏
2019 Pacifica Christian Orange County (CA) F Solomon Davis has received an offer from Penn.

 
Penndemonium 
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09-14-17 06:32 PM - Post#232845    
    In response to besnoah

Davis's video looked promising. He seemed to find open spaces and make good cuts to the basket. A team can always use a player in motion without the ball.

 
besnoah 
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10-22-17 02:14 PM - Post#234333    
    In response to Penndemonium

Looks like Max Martz visited Penn this weekend.

 
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10-22-17 02:53 PM - Post#234334    
    In response to besnoah

Pretty sure this was the kid I saw shooting 3’s at the Palestra right after the scrimmage ended. Fun fact - comes from the same HS as Scott Kegler.

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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10-23-17 09:47 AM - Post#234368    
    In response to besnoah

  • besnoah Said:
Looks like Max Martz visited Penn this weekend.


Has he got the smarts?

 
besnoah 
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10-29-17 12:15 PM - Post#234930    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

From Friday:

Jake Weingarten
2019 Chase Drew of Team Thrill UAA will take an unofficial to UPenn this weekend, per source.

 
91Quake 
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11-04-17 05:40 PM - Post#235465    
    In response to besnoah

According to Corey Evans, Penn is hosting 2019 G Jake Betlow today.

 
91Quake 
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12-29-17 10:21 AM - Post#241512    
    In response to 91Quake

NMH tweeted that Penn offered Max Lorca Lloyd when he visited campus the other day and watched the Del State game.

He has a bunch of high major offers already and H offered the next day (per adam finkelstein).

 
yoyo 
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12-29-17 10:34 AM - Post#241514    
    In response to 91Quake

AJ go recruit that kid to Penn

 
nychoops 
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12-29-17 12:29 PM - Post#241526    
    In response to yoyo

I know Max VERY well....he is a terrific talent and a great kid

 
Quakers03 
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12-29-17 12:53 PM - Post#241530    
    In response to nychoops

Do we have any shot?

 
mrjames 
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12-29-17 12:58 PM - Post#241531    
    In response to yoyo

Haven’t gotten myself overly educated on specific players in the 2019 class yet, but from what I’ve observed following Noah at NMH, Max is playing like a high major player. Given Harvard’s needs for the 2019 class, I’d expect the Crimson to be heavily involved as likely will other Ivies. Will be interesting to see where things shake out following the spring and summer travel seasons.

 
PennFan10 
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12-29-17 12:59 PM - Post#241533    
    In response to nychoops

  • nychoops Said:
I know Max VERY well....he is a terrific talent and a great kid



Get him to come to Penn then! Come on...


 
penn nation 
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12-29-17 01:02 PM - Post#241534    
    In response to PennFan10

  • PennFan10 Said:
  • nychoops Said:
I know Max VERY well....he is a terrific talent and a great kid



Get him to come to Penn then! Come on...




Unless nychoops has 200K to spare, that might not be possible...


 
mrjames 
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12-29-17 02:02 PM - Post#241537    
    In response to penn nation

If that read is true, then, well, there's your answer... The Ivy hit rate on recruits that can generate high major interest and also need significant FA is, umm, well, ya know... not good.



 
besnoah 
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2019 Recruiting
12-29-17 11:49 PM - Post#241606    
    In response to mrjames

Probably not the right time to mention that Max Martz (who Penn watched before their game against Dayton) was hosted by Ohio State for their game against Clemson.

Edited by besnoah on 12-29-17 11:55 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
besnoah 
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01-28-18 10:51 PM - Post#245048    
    In response to besnoah

Consensus 4*/Top 100 with a bunch of HM offers

Samad H.‏
@CoachHines28
2019 SG Charles Smith of McEachern (GA) has received offers from Vanderbilt and Penn

 
besnoah 
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02-14-18 02:36 PM - Post#247859    
    In response to besnoah

Josh Verlin‏
Penn assistant Joe Mihalich Jr. here for Lower Merion junior Jack Forrest. Quakers have been all over the Aces’ junior wing.

 
SteveChop 
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02-14-18 06:12 PM - Post#247874    
    In response to besnoah

He was at the Palestra for one of the Saturday Big Five games a few weeks ago. St. Joes I think

 
besnoah 
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04-05-18 11:33 AM - Post#254826    
    In response to SteveChop

The Athletic reported that Penn reached out to DePaul transfer Brandon Cyrus.

 
Penndemonium 
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04-05-18 11:56 AM - Post#254827    
    In response to besnoah


Wow. This looks like a no-brainer. All-academic Big East guy majoring in Finance. Welcome to the team!

Love the idea of a 6-5 PG.

http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/mt...




 
Penndemonium 
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04-05-18 12:03 PM - Post#254828    
    In response to Penndemonium

Oh wait. Not so fast. There's some meaningful competition.

https://www.backingthepack.com/nc-state-basketball...


 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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04-05-18 12:17 PM - Post#254830    
    In response to besnoah

Canadian kid. Wonder if Donahue had been recruiting him while Cyrus was still in high school.

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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04-05-18 12:18 PM - Post#254831    
    In response to Penndemonium

  • Penndemonium Said:
Oh wait. Not so fast. There's some meaningful competition.

https://www.backingthepack.com/nc-state-basketball...




LSU too. https://www.tigerdroppings.com/lsu-basketball/repo...

 
Penndemonium 
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04-05-18 06:55 PM - Post#254853    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

I guess this one will depend on whether his higher priority is a platinum finance degree or major conference basketball.

 
AsiaSunset 
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04-06-18 08:20 AM - Post#254860    
    In response to Penndemonium

Long shot I think. We made an attempt to recruit him out of hs, obviously without success.

Also - don't see some of the other names mentioned as possible late signees or transfers showing visible interest in Penn. Now maybe stuff is happening behind the scenes, although I doubt it.

 
palestra38 
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04-06-18 08:30 AM - Post#254863    
    In response to AsiaSunset

That's disappointing. Anyone looking at what Caleb Wood did here would see an opportunity for a shooter.

 
AsiaSunset 
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2019 Recruiting
04-06-18 09:33 AM - Post#254864    
    In response to palestra38

Well the women got yet another 2019 commitment - Mandy McGurk - a 5'7" pg from Notre Dame (the local one outside of Philly).

 
PennFan10 
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04-06-18 10:58 AM - Post#254865    
    In response to AsiaSunset

We have a shot at another player in the 2019 class. Not a long shot, but also not a sure thing.

 
Jeff2sf 
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04-06-18 11:45 AM - Post#254866    
    In response to PennFan10

your phrasing confuses me a little PF. Do you mean:

1. We have one possible recruit for 2019 (two septembers from now) and then we're done recruiting for then?

2. We have one possible transfer recruit who wouldn't be allowed to play until September 2019 because of traditional transfer rules?

3. We have one possible recruit for 2018 who would obviously be a late edition but could play this September?

 
PennFan10 
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04-06-18 12:06 PM - Post#254867    
    In response to Jeff2sf

Poor word choice. Number 3 is what I meant.

 
Jeff2sf 
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04-06-18 12:15 PM - Post#254868    
    In response to PennFan10

okie dokie. was kinda hoping it was option 2, but we'll see.

 
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04-06-18 03:08 PM - Post#254880    
    In response to Jeff2sf

Jeff why does the basketball season start in September

 
Jeff2sf 
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04-06-18 03:15 PM - Post#254881    
    In response to pennhoops

I dunno, baseball starts in March now.

yeah, i'll cop to my own poor choice of words. I was thinking mostly when classes start, not when the season starts. but I guess that's August now anyway.

 
besnoah 
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04-07-18 02:05 PM - Post#254901    
    In response to Jeff2sf

CJ Moore
Former OU guard Jordan Shepherd tells @TheAthleticCBB he's been contacted by Georgia Tech, Clemson, South Carolina, Wake Forest, UNCC, SFA, College of Charleston, St. John's, San Diego and Penn.

 
pennhoops 
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04-14-18 05:11 PM - Post#255305    
    In response to besnoah

here's some actual august info: per vc penn has offered august mahoney, pg from albany. mm offers with the exception of illinois, which is functionally an mm.

http://verbalcommits.com/players/august-mahone y

 
Penndemonium 
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04-19-18 02:00 AM - Post#255526    
    In response to pennhoops

It's good to see Penn in the mix with a number of high level transfers. It's easier to imagine a transfer making an immediate impact, although the program will eventually need to sustain on it's own Freshman recruits.

The only downside is that the team chemistry was so good this year - and transfers tend to upset the existing existing players who lose PT more than Freshmen. I'll give this team and Donahue the benefit of the doubt in making it work, however.

 
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Re: transfer downside
04-19-18 08:48 PM - Post#255574    
    In response to Penndemonium

Keep in mind that this year's very valuable sixth man was a two-year transfer. I'll take to years of that kind of play.

 
91Quake 
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04-21-18 12:44 PM - Post#255628    
    In response to UPIA1968

From Cityofbasketballlove.com:

JB Hoops opened its April live periods with a four-point overtime win against Alvin Gentry Elite (Az.) in a 17U showcase game, riding the hot hand of Leo O’Boyle. The Scranton Prep junior accounted for 29 of his team’s 62 points in the victory, showcasing a versatile scoring ability from all over the floor. A 6-foot-6, 215-pound wing forward, O’Boyle knocked down three 3-pointers along the way but got most of his production within 15 feet, hitting several contested pull-up jumpers and driving layups with both hands through contact.

“It’s really going to build up my confidence, now knowing that I’m shooting pretty well, driving pretty well and all of that,” he said afterwards. “So hopefully I can keep it going.”

O’Boyle has picked up one Division I offer in high school tenure, from NJIT as a sophomore, but he said he’s no longer being recruited by that school’s staff. Instead, it’s now Ivy/Patriot types who are reaching out to a student-athlete with a 3.7 GPA; O’Boyle named Colgate, Holy Cross, Dartmouth, and Penn as four in particular that had been in touch of late. Penn head coach Steve Donahue, who brought O’Boyle down to an elite camp last summer was watching this outing from the baseline.


 
besnoah 
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04-21-18 12:52 PM - Post#255629    
    In response to 91Quake

Josh also tweeted Donahue was present for

Max Martz:

Josh Verlin
@jmverlin
Final game of the night: Nova Russell (Ohio) vs. NJ Playaz Grey. Nova features 2019 Penn commit Max Martz. Quakers coach Steve Donahue here watching.

and Jersey Shore Warriors (I'd guess for Jack Forrest)

Josh Verlin
@jmverlin
Jersey Shore Warriors 17s drawing a big crowd as usual, including Penn head coach Steve Donahue. HGSL showcase game against WrightWay Skills (Mass.)

 
AsiaSunset 
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04-22-18 08:32 AM - Post#255638    
    In response to besnoah

Twitter says Max put up 28 in that game

 
besnoah 
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04-22-18 10:33 PM - Post#255655    
    In response to AsiaSunset

And Twitter says Martz scored 32 in a 3rd round loss today.

 
20Penn14 
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04-25-18 04:28 PM - Post#255876    
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Charles Smith IV commits to Cal

https://twitter.com/C4_is_explosive/statu s/9889076...

 
Jay O 
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04-25-18 09:16 PM - Post#255890    
    In response to 20Penn14

I wonder how many people are named Charles Smith IV. I bet there are enough for a basketball roster, but probably not enough for football. I want to be there when they argue over who gets to wear number 4.

 
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04-25-18 10:49 PM - Post#255897    
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  • Jay O Said:
I wonder how many people are named Charles Smith IV. I bet there are enough for a basketball roster, but probably not enough for football. I want to be there when they argue over who gets to wear number 4.



Assign the longest tenured player #4, offer the next player to show up #44. If a third shows up, offer him #22. If you're lucky enough to add a fourth to your roster, offer him #8. The fifth? Assign him #16.

Beyond that, I have no more suggestions.

 
Jay O 
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04-26-18 07:17 AM - Post#255903    
    In response to weinhauers_ghost

Makes sense. That last guy is a real square.

 
20Penn14 
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04-30-18 04:24 PM - Post#256139    
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Per COBL, Owen McGlashan is hearing from Penn.
Article also has a section on Max Martz

https://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/...

 
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05-01-18 12:12 AM - Post#256166    
    In response to 20Penn14

I didn't realize he was the son of a former player. The news on him just keeps getting better and better.

 
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05-09-18 01:26 PM - Post#256588    
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scratch one off

Former Minnesota G Jamir Harris is transferring to American. (HT @AdamZagoria) @Jtodaizzo http://verbalcommits.com/players/jamir-harris

 
besnoah 
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06-10-18 03:56 PM - Post#257762    
    In response to pennhoops

Pat Lawless
Jordan Dingle, a class of 2019 SG playing for the NY Lightning, just picked up an offer from UPenn. First reported by @Andrew__Slater.

 
besnoah 
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06-12-18 11:13 PM - Post#257856    
    In response to besnoah

From yesterday:

Pat Lawless
UPenn, Harvard, Vanderbilt, UAB, Georgetown, Marquette, Georgia Tech and Wake Forest are watching '19 Maxwell Lorca-Lloyd (Chile) compete in the FIBA Americas U18 Championship.

I'm sure folks other than me have better insight here.

 
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06-13-18 06:22 AM - Post#257857    
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Per the FIBA website, Lorca-Lloyd is 6'7" and attends Northfield Mount Hermon.

 
91Quake 
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06-13-18 07:58 AM - Post#257865    
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He is visiting H and Stanford soon. He has already been to visit Penn though.

 
Jay O 
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06-15-18 11:13 PM - Post#257920    
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  • weinhauers_ghost Said:
Per the FIBA website, Lorca-Lloyd is 6'7" and attends Northfield Mount Hermon.



Ha, of course he does. We should probably just assume NMH unless otherwise indicated.

 
Silver Maple 
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06-15-18 11:35 PM - Post#257921    
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I was under the impression he was more like 6'10".

Whatever-- he's a 4-star recruit. We should temper our expectations.

 
20Penn14 
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07-01-18 04:11 PM - Post#258385    
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Ben Sheppard
@shepben2
Recieved my second offer from the University of Pennsylvania! #uPenn

Looks like a 6-5 guard from Atlanta

 
besnoah 
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08-23-18 12:17 AM - Post#260626    
    In response to 20Penn14

Max Lorca-Lloyd is making an official visit to Penn this weekend, per Rivals:

https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/ 103244337...

 
pennhoops 
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08-23-18 11:33 AM - Post#260635    
    In response to besnoah

Back to the golden age of losing big recruit after big recruit to Vandy.

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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08-23-18 01:07 PM - Post#260640    
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  • pennhoops Said:
Back to the golden age of losing big recruit after big recruit to Vandy.


Were we after Barry Goheen?

 
Quakers03 
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08-23-18 01:34 PM - Post#260644    
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  • pennhoops Said:
Back to the golden age of losing big recruit after big recruit to Vandy.


If they decide to come home after freshman year, we'll sure take it. Anyone know what Matt is up to nowadays? Living off of that Rockets contract?

 
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08-23-18 06:18 PM - Post#260651    
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I believe he's the head basketball coach at Oak Park High School outside Chicago.

 
Old Bear 
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08-23-18 07:09 PM - Post#260653    
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Really? My Alma Mater (or one them).

 
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08-23-18 07:26 PM - Post#260654    
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either it's him or someone who shares the name.

http://il.8to18.com/oprf/staff

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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08-23-18 08:12 PM - Post#260657    
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  • pennhoops Said:
either it's him or someone who shares the name.

http://il.8to18.com/oprf/staff


Judging by this photo I suspect it's a different guy.

http://www.oprfhs.org/campusuite25/modules/ faculty...


 
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08-23-18 09:14 PM - Post#260658    
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http://www.fox26houston.com/sports/former-rocket- m...


 
besnoah 
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09-11-18 10:29 PM - Post#261123    
    In response to TheLine

Obviously huge grain of salt on the second half of this tweet, but all 6 people predicting Max Lorca-Lloyd's college selection on 24/7 are predicting Penn and have made that prediction within the past week:

Leader Johnson
Penn is is a heavy favorite to land 2019 4-star PF Maxwell Lorca-Lloyd. Penn has turned to the second best team in the Big 5. You have to respect them as threats to Villanova.

https://twitter.com/WriterLeader247/statu s/1037846...

https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Max well-Lo...

Edited by besnoah on 09-11-18 10:29 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
PennFan10 
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09-12-18 01:07 AM - Post#261124    
    In response to besnoah

I think Penn has a strong chance to land Max 2.0

I have heard Penn is one of 2 and probably the leading choice. Should hear something official soon.

 
TheLine 
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09-12-18 07:44 AM - Post#261127    
    In response to PennFan10

Good to hear. Wang + Lorca-Lloyd could be a nice frontcourt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1H9OmTs7f4


 
Silver Maple 
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09-12-18 09:36 AM - Post#261134    
    In response to TheLine

Everybody relax. It's not in the bag until it's in the bag.

 
nychoops 
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09-12-18 09:59 AM - Post#261135    
    In response to Silver Maple

Seen Max play quite a bit....hes a very interesting talent ...VERY similar game to Harrison Schaen..in no way saying that their college career or passion for the game are the same

 
TheLine 
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09-12-18 10:16 AM - Post#261136    
    In response to nychoops

Thanks for dumping cold water on this. Want to keep it in perspective. Don't want to get too optimistic.


 
10Q 
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09-12-18 10:18 AM - Post#261137    
    In response to TheLine

A 4 star? Penn is in the running for a 4 star? When did we last get a 4 star?

 
Jeff2sf 
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09-12-18 10:23 AM - Post#261138    
    In response to 10Q

fwiw, verbal commits doesn't have him as a 4* in any of the rankings.

the offer list would seemingly put him in a different class than most of our recruits though.

 
TheLine 
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09-12-18 10:30 AM - Post#261141    
    In response to Jeff2sf

Rivals has him as 4* though that doesn't appear on VC for some reason. ESPN has him as 3*.

Not that it matters. And certainly would prefer him to be a 2* right now.


 
Silver Maple 
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09-12-18 10:44 AM - Post#261143    
    In response to 10Q

I get the impression that he's more of a 2.5-3 star prospect.

My big question is, when did Penn become the second best team in the Big 5?

 
10Q 
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09-12-18 10:47 AM - Post#261145    
    In response to Silver Maple

We're not. We would be lucky to be considered the third best.

 
AsiaSunset 
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Re: 2019 Recruiting
09-12-18 10:56 AM - Post#261146    
    In response to Silver Maple

Would not fret too much about rankings as an ESPN 79 is the top of the 3* range. Michael Wang had the same number. If you get an 80 rating you're a 4**** but at the bottom of the 4**** range.

VC has him as a composite 2.5, but since the VC composite is supposed to be a composite of Rivals (4****) and ESPN (3***) and Scout (not rated) the VC composite number is virtually meaningless.

 
TheLine 
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09-12-18 10:59 AM - Post#261147    
    In response to AsiaSunset

I trust insight from Mike James and nychoops more than a Rivals/Scout/ESPN composite.



 
besnoah 
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09-12-18 12:06 PM - Post#261151    
    In response to TheLine

My limited view is that his offer list (and the offers he got over this summer) makes him seem pretty impressive, even if he needs serious development.

 
Silver Maple 
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09-12-18 12:08 PM - Post#261152    
    In response to besnoah

Have you read anything that suggests that he's a project? My experience is that players who are described as 'projects' almost never amount to anything.

 
TheLine 
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09-12-18 12:27 PM - Post#261153    
    In response to Silver Maple

There's obviously a lot of parsing when reading anything online, but I wouldn't consider Lorca-Lloyd a 'big guy project', especially at our level. Don't think he's necessarily being viewed as ready two-way player day 1 as Brodeur was, or even Wang may be - but he is at NMH, which plays a highly competitive schedule. Sounds like his defense is ahead of his offense, which is OK.


 
mrjames 
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09-12-18 02:33 PM - Post#261159    
    In response to TheLine

Very much appreciated, but I may not be of much help this season - at least with up-to-date info. Totally agree that nychoops can be helpful here, and I'd also highly recommend regional sites over the national ones, except for those Top 100/150 kids. NERR, for instance, does a fantastic job overall and does especially well with kids that have been in New England for multiple years. Max is No. 6 there, which would edge Zena as the highest ever in those rankings to go Ivy. Typically almost all of the Top 10 goes high major and most of the 11-20 folks will have that option as well.

The list of Top 20 recruits in NERR to go Ivy over the past decade isn't all that long: Idan Tretout (2019), Noah Kirkwood (2018), Ethan Wright (2018), AJ, Corey Johnson, Makai Mason, Zena, Kyle Casey.

 
Jeff2sf 
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09-12-18 03:24 PM - Post#261164    
    In response to mrjames

burnout (bored with ivies, ncaas), family, or job?

 
palestra38 
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09-12-18 03:32 PM - Post#261165    
    In response to Jeff2sf

From Mike's post on the Ivy League Board:

Now to return to my comment about my hiatus from the top. My wife and I are about to have our third child, which is incredibly exciting. Between #dayjob and #dadlife, something has to give. Covering the league the way I'd want to cover it (checking in with folks around the league, watching a bunch of games from across the league, booting up the code), just doesn't seem like it will be possible - at least in the short run. So I'm going to power down the Twitter feed and my active participation on these boards for this season. I'll still be checking in from time to time, and I hope to get back to covering the league in the future. But I need to be realistic about my time, and this seems like it has to be on my cut list.

I'll still be watching, and if we can survive the usual devastation in October and November, it could be a HUGE year for our league!

-Mike

 
Jeff2sf 
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09-12-18 03:59 PM - Post#261166    
    In response to palestra38

thanks. i can't believe i missed that page/post. good luck with the kid. I have 4 and anybody that's not playing zone defense with kids has it easy*.







* - i wanted to leave it intentionally inflammatory but my old age will point out that those who have special needs kids obviously have it way harder.

 
penn nation 
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09-12-18 05:44 PM - Post#261168    
    In response to Jeff2sf

My first two were twins so I never knew what it was like to "just" have a singleton.

 
Penndemonium 
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09-12-18 07:13 PM - Post#261176    
    In response to Silver Maple

There are articles that say he has only played basketball for 5 years.

From his video:
- He looked like he could be a great shot blocker.
- He is described as a great rebounder on both ends, although it wasn't obvious on his highlight video. I couldn't tell if he used his positioning and had a continuous motor.
- He had some good moves, although his shot and dribble look a bit funny.
- Very interesting combination of height and athleticism.
- He would be a great get for us!


  • Silver Maple Said:
Have you read anything that suggests that he's a project? My experience is that players who are described as 'projects' almost never amount to anything.



 
Penndemonium 
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09-13-18 12:44 AM - Post#261182    
    In response to 10Q

I believe AJ Brodeur was the only one in a very long time.

  • 10Q Said:
A 4 star? Penn is in the running for a 4 star? When did we last get a 4 star?




 
Silver Maple 
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09-13-18 09:33 AM - Post#261188    
    In response to Penndemonium

I thought Brodeur was pretty universally rated at 3 stars. Were there any recruiting sources rating him at 4?

Not that any of this really matters. Perhaps we should be having a conversation on accuracy vs. precision.

 
TheLine 
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09-13-18 11:26 AM - Post#261195    
    In response to Silver Maple

Think you're right about that. Also rankings from the recruiting sites are not the end-all. They aren't as invested in it as the coaches are, especially at the level of recruit we're talking about.

Bruner was a somewhat higher ranked recruit than Brodeur. Who you want now? Sure, the answer could be different if Bruner was healthy but it's unclear healthy Bruner is a thing.

Comparing Brodeur and Lorca-Lloyd - Brodeur had more polish, an unquestioned motor, and was athletic enough. Lorca-Lloyd is more raw relatively speaking but can play, has better athleticism, and a body that many think will fill out well. If Lorca-Lloyd had Brodeur's polish then he'd probably be a good high major recruit.


 
91Quake 
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09-13-18 03:30 PM - Post#261221    
    In response to TheLine

Jordan Dingle visited Penn last weekend. Shooting guard from LI who is playing at Blair Academy. BU trip this weekend then St. Louis and Dartmouth also contenders. A good list of mid major offers overall.

 
Penndemonium 
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09-14-18 04:24 AM - Post#261252    
    In response to Silver Maple

  • Silver Maple Said:
I thought Brodeur was pretty universally rated at 3 stars. Were there any recruiting sources rating him at 4?

Not that any of this really matters. Perhaps we should be having a conversation on accuracy vs. precision.



Perhaps he was one of those players downgraded when he committed to Penn?

 
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