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Chet Forte 
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07-12-17 05:11 PM - Post#230836    

This is the longest stretch I can remember without any news. Any reports on recruiting, or how the new guys have looked in scrimmages, or how Castlin looks?


 
florida lion 
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07-13-17 08:24 AM - Post#230857    
    In response to Chet Forte

Not a lot, it was just posted elsewhere that the Lions won a NABC Team Academic Excellence award. Harvard, Princeton and Yale were the other Ivies to win one.

 
Columbia 37P6 
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Any news out there?
07-13-17 12:42 PM - Post#230871    
    In response to florida lion

For recruiting news you have to log in to the Verbal Commits website where the Lions have been very active indeed having already made eighteen offers for the Class of 2018 and seventeen offers for the Class of 2019. Also, the Columbia Athletics website recently reported that assistant coach Jean Bain was promoted to Associate Head Coach which was the same position he held at Dartmouth before coming to Columbia last year. My sense is that Columbia Basketball and several other Columbia sports are transitioning their recruiting efforts to emulate the very successful style of Columbia Football under Coach Bagnoli.

Edited by Columbia 37P6 on 07-13-17 12:43 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
internetter 
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07-14-17 06:37 PM - Post#230923    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

from AD: KANSAS CITY, Mo. – The Columbia men’s basketball program received The National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC) Team Academic Excellence Award, as announced today. These awards, now in its fifth season, recognize outstanding academic achievement by a team with a cumulative grade point average (GPA) of 3.0 or better for the 2016-17 season.

The Lions boasted a team GPA of 3.08 during the academic year and was one of four Ivy League institutions represented.
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Chet Forte 
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08-11-17 08:50 AM - Post#231835    
    In response to internetter

This is the longest off-season drought on news about our team in years. Any information on how the new guys have looked to date? What about Castlin? Any news on how Meisner did in Europe this summer?


 
Dr. V 
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08-11-17 11:40 AM - Post#231844    
    In response to Chet Forte

FWIW, some tidbits: in summer open gym scrimmages Castlin looked fully recovered; Smith looked like he may have raised it a notch; he and Adlesh looked very strong at the PG, Smith with his off balance drives and unexpected shots, Adlesh with his long range shots, which show a bit more arc. Adlesh also did a great job feeding our bigs, particularly Tape.

All of the first years who played looked good, but they did show some first year-itis, to make up a word. There is a difference between D1 and h.s., to remind of something obvious. Several looked very slight, but two who looked appropriately strong for their positions were Hanson and Stefanini. Everybody was here second half of June and through July except Meisner and Andrew P., who went home. A couple were recovering from something or a bit banged up.

 
Chet Forte 
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08-11-17 12:45 PM - Post#231848    
    In response to Dr. V

Thanks Dr. V. We know that Stefanini played in a very tough and competitive hs program and against top flight competition.


 
cc66 
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08-11-17 07:56 PM - Post#231879    
    In response to Chet Forte

How does Faulds look? Is he one of those suffering from first year-itis?

 
Chet Forte 
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08-12-17 01:03 PM - Post#231893    
    In response to cc66

And the guard from Chicago, Bibbs?


 
Dr. V 
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Any news out there?
08-13-17 01:45 PM - Post#231913    
    In response to Chet Forte

Faulds and Bibbs were there and looked fine. The players didn't all show up at the same time (some were lifting?), so I didn't see all of them play the same length of time. Also, I only watched one evening's worth of play, so I'd have to see 3 or 4 days of play of first years whom I had never seen live before before I could have anything meaningful to say about them.

Edited by Dr. V on 08-13-17 01:46 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
hoopsfan 
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08-14-17 03:40 PM - Post#231988    
    In response to Dr. V

Castlin's return at 100% could be very important.

His freshman year he started every game, played 26 minutes per game, and averaged 10.3/4.2. As importantly, he gave us unusual toughness from the 3 position. He sat out last year and the year before lost a lot of time to the return of Mullins and Rosie, if I recall correctly.

Last year with Killingsworth fighting illness and Hunter not finding his game, we got very little from the 3 which was hard to compensate for each game. So, if Castlin finds his old form it will help.

 
cc66 
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08-14-17 07:00 PM - Post#231992    
    In response to hoopsfan

Smith, Adlesh or Hickman, Castlin, Meisner, and Tape, is, if everyone is healthy and plays to his potential, a pretty competitive lineup.

 
Columbia 37P6 
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08-15-17 09:57 AM - Post#232008    
    In response to cc66

Swimming Coach Jim Bolster's son, a freshman guard from the Trinity School, has just been added to the roster. Jim is a terrific coach and great person.

 
Dr. V 
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08-16-17 12:03 PM - Post#232064    
    In response to cc66


That's a good way of putting it, i.e., a competitive lineup. Fortunately or unfortunately, as Mr. James has been reminding us all, the league is much stronger than perhaps ever. H, P and Y are loaded and the rest all have good parts.

What's good about our situation is that we have good experience returning and a strong class of first years who will be pushing them daily in practice. But, as always, the key question is whether we can improve on D. And we need to shoot better.

Positionally I think we're strong at the 1 with Smith (with Adlesh or one of the first years backing him up when needed) and, surprisingly for us, at the 5. We have two athletic bigs, Tape and Faulds, who can rebound and block shots, and having two is huge because young bigs who rebound and block shots tend to pick up fouls.

The rest is more or less a blank slate, but it's nice that Engles and the staff will have options. Castlin has demonstrated his many strengths, but his long range shooting is not as consistent as one would like. Can he improve that by November? Meisner has at times looked great moving without the ball, on the O boards, rebounding and sometimes shooting, but for some reason he tends to get nicked up so playing time has been somewhat limited. Hickman started very strong, then faded last year. Adlesh will be very valuable off the bench with his experience, shooting and passing, but because of size on D, I don't think we can have both him and Smith starting together. Then there are the first years. There is a lot of talent there. Question is, who can play the best D the earliest? It's hard to predict such things, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or even two broke into the starting lineup by the time we play the Ivies.

We probably need to have two more classes like the one coming in, like it it in terms of quality, not its size, to match the top teams in our league. But then Engles showed at NJIT that he can be a magician, so it's going to be fun to see how we play this and the next several years.

 
cc66 
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08-16-17 08:39 PM - Post#232105    
    In response to Dr. V

Yes, that is exactly what I meant. We will be good and on our best days may surprise some people, but it will take at least one or possibly two years of recruiting--Smith's senior year???--before we can plausibly challenge the top.

 
Columbia 37P6 
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08-16-17 09:21 PM - Post#232107    
    In response to cc66

Plenty of "ifs,' but if Bibbs and Faulds break into the starting lineup, and if some of the many talented veterans play to their potential and the team stays healthy down the stretch, then I see us competing for the top this year.

 
Chet Forte 
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08-17-17 06:33 AM - Post#232110    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

We were highly competitive against the better teams but tended to bomb against some of the weaker teams. Our losses to Dartmouth and Brown were inexplicable to me. But I am very high on our depth and can see going 9 or 10 deep. To me, Smith is a given as one of the elite PGs in the league, Meisner has all star potential, Castlin if 100% and out from the Kyle Smith doghouse is going to be an elite player, and Tape has incredible athleticism for a guy his size. Those are the first four guys going into the season.


 
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