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Username Post: College Sports Madness Top 144        (Topic#20392)
Bison89 
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07-18-17 04:35 PM - Post#231012    

It is hard to believe, but CSM is already counting down the Top 144:

144. Georgia
143. Norfolk State
142. Illinois State
141. Texas Southern
140. Jacksonville State
139. Georgia State
138. Mt. St. Mary's
137. Samford
136. Washington
135. Lamar
134. Northern Iowa
133. Hofstra
132. Fort Wayne
131. Utah Valley
130. Troy
129. Old Dominion
128. UC Davis
127. South Dakota State
126. Manhattan
125. La Salle
124. Idaho
123. Kent State
122. Illinois
121. San Francisco
120. Missouri State
119. Memphis
118. Albany
117. Boise State
116. New Mexico State
115. Elon
http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal...

Where will the Bison rank? Personally, I am predicting 82 even though I think that they should really be around 55-65.
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
Bison137 
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07-18-17 05:06 PM - Post#231016    
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I think they have Mt. St. Mary's way too high. MSM ranked 209th this past season (Pomeroy), and they had three starters, including their best player, transfer out. They may still win the NEC but I don't see them being better than 200 nationally.




 
Bison54 
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07-18-17 07:22 PM - Post#231021    
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LaSalle seems low. Like to see them higher in Sojka


 
atlantabison 
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College Sports Madness Top 144
07-19-17 06:26 AM - Post#231026    
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From a John Griffin tweet:

https://alwaysmarch.wordpress.com/2017/07/07/100-t...

So someone has us top 100. This site does their list alphabetically.
Ray Bucknell!


Edited by atlantabison on 07-19-17 06:27 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
HuskyColonial 
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07-19-17 07:00 AM - Post#231030    
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Lasalle is too low. There's a strong athletic nucleus there to build on.

 
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Re: College Sports Madness Top 144
07-19-17 12:53 PM - Post#231058    
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  • atlantabison Said:
From a John Griffin tweet:

https://alwaysmarch.wordpress.com/2017/07/07/100-t...

So someone has us top 100. This site does their list alphabetically.



I like the sound of this:
"If it looked like Bucknell dominated the Patriot League last year, just wait for this season. The Bison are the overwhelming favorites to win the league. No team has ran the table in the Patriot League since the Bison did it back in 2006, but that was just a 14 game schedule. It will be extremely tough, but they definitely have the potential to do that this season. You may not hear much about these guys during the regular season, but they’ll be a dangerous, bracket-busting team come next March."
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
Bison137 
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07-19-17 03:18 PM - Post#231075    
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That certainly sounds nice - but I think a bit optimistic. The PL is stronger now than it was in 2006. It will be tough to beat Boston U and Navy on the road, and the middle tier teams won't be gimmes either. Even the 2013 team with Muscala etal lost two league games- and that was with CJ out with an injury.




 
Bison89 
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07-19-17 04:40 PM - Post#231091    
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137, I agree with you, but that being said, I like the idea of another undefeated PL season.
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Bison137 
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07-19-17 07:13 PM - Post#231096    
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  • Bison89 Said:
137, I agree with you, but that being said, I like the idea of another undefeated PL season.




I wonder how many remember that the Bison trailed Holy Cross by 15 points in the second half in the game at Worcester late in the regular season. Charles Lee scored 24 points in that game, and no other Bison had double figures.




 
Bison89 
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07-22-17 10:34 AM - Post#231173    
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Update:
114. Tennessee
113. UC Irvine
112. Louisiana
111. Colorado State

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal...
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Bison89 
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07-24-17 01:40 PM - Post#231203    
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Update:
110. Yale
109. Mercer

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HuskyColonial 
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07-24-17 02:05 PM - Post#231205    
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71 is my guess.

 
Bison89 
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07-25-17 10:35 AM - Post#231242    
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  • HuskyColonial Said:
71 is my guess.



Husky, IMO, 71 is probably a realistic number. As previously stated, I think that 55-65 is probably where the Bison should be ranked, but I do not think that we will see any number in that range. If the Bison are ranked anywhere better than 70, I would genuinely be surprised.
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Bison89 
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07-28-17 11:24 AM - Post#231380    
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Update:
109. Mercer
108. George Mason
107. Fairfield
106. UNC Asheville
105. Clemson
http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal...

Good to see Coach Paulsen has GMU heading in the right direction.
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Bison137 
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07-28-17 12:00 PM - Post#231382    
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  • Bison89 Said:
Update:
109. Mercer
108. George Mason
107. Fairfield
106. UNC Asheville
105. Clemson
http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal...

Good to see Coach Paulsen has GMU heading in the right direction.





GMU should definitely have a good record when they head into conference play, as they have booked a soft schedule. The average 2017 Pomeroy ranking for their opponents is 182 and there are only three road games.


VS LAFAYETTE 330
AT LOUISVILLE 9
VS BINGHAMTON 314
VS CAL-NORTHRIDGE 284
VS LOUISIANA TECH (NEUTRAL) 93
VS FRESNO STATE/EVANSVILLE (NEUTRAL) 126
AT JAMES MADISON 223
AT AUBURN 82
VS WILLIAM & MARY 133
VS NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL 161
VS GEORGIA SOUTHERN 195
VS PENN STATE 87
VS MORGAN STATE 324



VCU, for comparison, has an average Pomeroy ranking of 132, albeit with only one true road game. The Bison figure to average better than this, unless a few of the unknown opponents turn out to be weak.




 
HuskyColonial 
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07-28-17 03:54 PM - Post#231391    
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I think Bucknell has a relatively large profile now for people trying to find "sleeper" small schools. Last year's effort against WVU and returning the core team give legitimacy to lofty predictions.

The OOC excites me and I'm glad we've been able to schedule these higher profile schools. We will obviously lose a few but winning a couple benefit our resume.

 
Bison137 
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07-28-17 05:00 PM - Post#231395    
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If you want to see an embarrassing schedule, take a look at Duquesne:

- 11 of the 13 OOC games at home, with two in Las Vegas vs middle-of-the road teams.
- Average Pomeroy rank of 265.
- No teams that made the NCAA tournament last year.
- No team with a realistic shot to make the tournament this year.
- San Francisco is the only team with any chance of being top 100.
- Only one P6 conference team, and it may be the worst one in the nation (Pitt).


I realize that they have a new coach and are in full rebuilding mode - but their schedule is awful.




 
Bison89 
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07-31-17 08:22 AM - Post#231415    
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Update:
104. Grand Canyon (I had NEVER heard of this school.)
103. UNLV
http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal...

More about Grand Canyon U: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Canyon_Uni vers...
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Bison137 
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07-31-17 09:22 AM - Post#231417    
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Grand Canyon might be the only for-profit school with a D1 sports program. Their coach is Dan Majerle, who played in the NBA for about 15 years, mostly with Phoenix and Miami, and was a borderline all-star.




 
pjm_hoops 
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07-31-17 10:14 AM - Post#231421    
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Their notable alumni list may need some re-prioritization. Alphabetically, it starts with

Anthony Birchak, professional mixed martial artist (did not graduate)
Chad Curtis, professional baseball player convicted of sexual assault
Efrain Escudero, wrestler; professional mixed martial artist

and ends with

Kevin Warren, COO of the Minnesota Vikings

I think I would organize that list differently if I were editing that page.

 
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