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Username Post: College Sports Madness Top 144        (Topic#20392)
jkrun80 
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08-31-17 12:59 PM - Post#232523    
    In response to BisonFan4

I'm an eternal optimist, but optimism is warranted for this team. 7-6 or 8-5 is not only possible, but quite probable.

 
HuskyColonial 
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08-31-17 02:34 PM - Post#232528    
    In response to BisonFan4

I'm excited as hell! I'm serious. A .500 OOC considering the number of games on the road would be OUTSTANDING. No sour grapes starting PL play with an RPI under 40. Seriously.

 
BUFan 
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09-01-17 09:15 AM - Post#232540    
    In response to pjm_hoops

And, we're #70...

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15076

 
BUFan 
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09-01-17 09:17 AM - Post#232542    
    In response to BUFan

And projected as an always dangerous 12 seed...

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/mens-basketbal...

 
Bison89 
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09-01-17 11:32 AM - Post#232549    
    In response to BUFan

  • BUFan Said:


#70 is very solid. If the Bison were ranked in the 50s or low 60s, BCS teams might take them more seriously. I am very happy with #70.

GO BISON!
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
bison63 
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09-01-17 04:21 PM - Post#232560    
    In response to Bison89

6 months till March Madness!!

 
Bison89 
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09-05-17 08:27 AM - Post#232625    
    In response to bison63

We might as well see the rest of the list:

69. Syracuse
68. Oklahoma State
67. Temple

BTW, it has been a while since we played Temple. That would be a solid team to schedule for 2019-2020.
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
res 
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09-07-17 10:01 AM - Post#232696    
    In response to Bison89

Two of this season's opponents and one from last year

66. Vanderbilt
65. VCU
64. Vermont;



 
KenZ 
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College Sports Madness Top 144
09-07-17 10:37 AM - Post#232699    
    In response to Bison89

  • Bison89 Said:

BTW, it has been a while since we played Temple. That would be a solid team to schedule for 2019-2020.




why 2019-2020 specifically?

edit: or is that a couple of seasons as opposed to a specific season?

Edited by KenZ on 09-07-17 10:38 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Bison137 
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09-07-17 10:47 AM - Post#232700    
    In response to KenZ

The Bison, of course, played Temple in 2015 in the NIT. But that was not a scheduled game, and Temple had no choice.

The last time the two played a regularly scheduled game was - incredibly - in 1982. Through that date, the two teams had played 34 times - but no scheduled games since then.




 
Bison137 
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09-07-17 11:08 AM - Post#232702    
    In response to Bison137

Speaking of teams in Philly, the one I'd really like to have a series with is Penn. The Bison haven't played them since the 2003-04 season. That year BU started by losing 11 straight games to D1 opponents, including the close loss at #3 Michigan State where the Bison went 1-17 on FT's. After that horrible start, they won 10 of their next 11 games.




 
Bison89 
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Re: College Sports Madness Top 144
09-07-17 12:16 PM - Post#232705    
    In response to KenZ

  • KenZ Said:
  • Bison89 Said:

BTW, it has been a while since we played Temple. That would be a solid team to schedule for 2019-2020.




why 2019-2020 specifically?

edit: or is that a couple of seasons as opposed to a specific season?



I should have said in 2018, 2019 or 2020.
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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College Sports Madness Top 144
09-07-17 02:18 PM - Post#232709    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:
Speaking of teams in Philly, the one I'd really like to have a series with is Penn. The Bison haven't played them since the 2003-04 season.

We played Penn at the Palestra in the 2004-05 season. It was the first Bucknell game I'd seen since Bucknell-Syracuse in the 1989 NCAA tournament my senior year, and launched my era of hoops travel.

We lost, having dug an enormous hole early on. We did, however, rally to make it close.

As I crossed paths with the team boarding the bus on that frosty December night in Philadelphia, I said, "Keep your heads up, Bison. We have a GREAT season ahead of us."

 
KenZ 
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09-07-17 03:33 PM - Post#232711    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

fwiw: on the topic of games with Philly teams, my general understanding / impression has been:

Villanova is generally willing to host us every few years in a guarantee game

LaSalle obvioussly has been willing to schedule series with us including games at Sojka

St. Joes wasn't interested in talking to us after we took 2 of 3 a decade ago. time heals all wounds? we are playing them again

Penn not interested in coming to Lewisburg and we aren't going to go there without a return game.

Temple not interested in coming to Lewisburg. don't know if we would play there for a guarantee, but i have the impression that is not likely to happen.

Drexel would sign up for a home and home pretty much anytime we wanted provided the scheduling could be worked out.

 
Bison137 
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09-07-17 03:40 PM - Post#232712    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

Yes, I had forgotten all about that one. The next game after that loss was the miraculous OT win at Yale. That was followed by 10 more wins, with the streak only ending after Flannery had to take a medical leave. Two of the wins in that streak, of course, were at St. Joes - one year removed from an undefeated regular season - and at #7 Pitt.




 
DoCtoR62 
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09-07-17 04:26 PM - Post#232714    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:
Yes, I had forgotten all about that one. The next game after that loss was the miraculous OT win at Yale. That was followed by 10 more wins, with the streak only ending after Flannery had to take a medical leave. Two of the wins in that streak, of course, were at St. Joes - one year removed from an undefeated regular season - and at #7 Pitt.



Not be overlooked in the streak was a 2-point home win over Niagara right before the Christmas break. Niagara had just beat down St. Bonaventure by 30 and would go on to win 20 games and the MAAC championship that year. Don't know if the Bison ever had a better 4-game regular season stretch than Niagara, St. Joe's, Pitt and Holy Cross to end 2004 and begin 2005.

 
Bison137 
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09-07-17 05:52 PM - Post#232717    
    In response to DoCtoR62

  • DoCtoR62 Said:
Don't know if the Bison ever had a better 4-game regular season stretch than Niagara, St. Joe's, Pitt and Holy Cross to end 2004 and begin 2005.




Interesting observation. To your point, those four ended up the year ranked 106, 49, 24, and 65 (Pomeroy). Average ranking of 61st. Pitt was ranked a lot higher when the Bison beat them, but they dropped a bit with three losses near the end of the season - and then dropped some more when they were upset by Pacific in the NCAA.

The Bison may have also had their toughest three-game stretch at the end of that season, beating HC (65), Kansas (11), and losing to Wisconsin (17). Average of 31. Like Pitt, Kansas dropped significantly at the end of the year.

One more discussion point could be the toughest three opponents in a regular-season four game stretch. That might be last year when BU played Wake (36), RMU (266), Butler (25), and Vandy (33) in four consecutive games. Average of 31 for the top three.

All of the above marks could be in jeopardy in about two months when the Bison open with Monmouth (81), Arkansas (35), UNC (3), and Maryland (46). Average of 41, per Pomeroy rankings from 2016-17. Average of 28 for the three in a row.




 
Raymond Bucknell 
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09-07-17 10:37 PM - Post#232720    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:
  • DoCtoR62 Said:
Don't know if the Bison ever had a better 4-game regular season stretch than Niagara, St. Joe's, Pitt and Holy Cross to end 2004 and begin 2005.




Interesting observation. To your point, those four ended up the year ranked 106, 49, 24, and 65 (Pomeroy). Average ranking of 61st. Pitt was ranked a lot higher when the Bison beat them, but they dropped a bit with three losses near the end of the season - and then dropped some more when they were upset by Pacific in the NCAA.

The Bison may have also had their toughest three-game stretch at the end of that season, beating HC (65), Kansas (11), and losing to Wisconsin (17). Average of 31. Like Pitt, Kansas dropped significantly at the end of the year.

One more discussion point could be the toughest three opponents in a regular-season four game stretch. That might be last year when BU played Wake (36), RMU (266), Butler (25), and Vandy (33) in four consecutive games. Average of 31 for the top three.

All of the above marks could be in jeopardy in about two months when the Bison open with Monmouth (81), Arkansas (35), UNC (3), and Maryland (46). Average of 41, per Pomeroy rankings from 2016-17. Average of 28 for the three in a row.




This is the sort of research and insight that keeps me coming back (multiple times) daily during the deep, dark off-season.




 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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09-07-17 11:06 PM - Post#232721    
    In response to Raymond Bucknell

I was thinking that too, Raymond.


 
Bison89 
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09-08-17 05:49 AM - Post#232723    
    In response to Raymond Bucknell

137, you should work for ESPNU!
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
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