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Bison137 
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07-20-17 04:20 PM - Post#231121    

Here is an early look at this PL season, starting with a review of where teams finished last year, followed by what they have returning in terms of minutes, points, rebounds, etc.

Last season, these were the PL records and overall Pomeroy rankings of each team:

Bucknell  . 15-3 . . . 76
Lehigh . . . 12-6 . . . 115
Boston U . 12-6 . . . 192
Navy . . . . 10-8 . . . 206
Holy Cross . 9-9 . . . 215
Loyola . . . 8-10 . . . 227
Colgate . . 8-10 . . . 268
Army . . . . 6-12 . . . 230
American . 5-13 . . . 307
Lafayette . 5-13 . . . 330


And here is what each team is returning from last year in terms of minutes, points, rebounds, assists, and steals - plus a weighted average (double weight for points, minutes, and rebounds, 1.5 weight for assists):


MINUTES
Colgate 93.0%
Bucknell 92.3%
Lafayette 82.8%
Loyola 81.8%
Navy 80.8%
Army 75.5%
Boston 70.2%
American 51.0%
Lehigh 47.9%
Holy Cross 40.7%

POINTS
Colgate 93.9%
Bucknell 92.9%
Navy 82.1%
Lafayette 79.7%
Army 79.5%
Loyola 76.4%
Boston 60.8%
American 58.2%
Lehigh 41.0%
Holy Cross 34.4%

REBOUNDS
Colgate 94.3%
Lafayette 91.4%
Bucknell 89.5%
Navy 79.2%
Loyola 76.9%
Army 67.2%
Boston 57.9%
American 46.6%
Holy Cross 36.8%
Lehigh 36.4%

ASSISTS
Bucknell 96.9%
Colgate 92.0%
Navy 86.8%
Army 86.5%
Loyola 84.2%
Boston 78.7%
Lafayette 68.3%
Lehigh 66.4%
Holy Cross 53.4%
American 50.4%

BLOCKS
Lafayette 98.6%
Bucknell 97.0%
Colgate 92.7%
Navy 68.2%
Loyola 67.4%
Army 65.6%
American 53.4%
Boston 46.4%
Holy Cross 39.5%
Lehigh 27.4%

STEALS
Colgate 93.9%
Bucknell 91.3%
Boston 84.5%
Lafayette 84.4%
Navy 81.5%
Loyola 80.4%
Army 80.3%
American 56.5%
Lehigh 50.2%
Holy Cross 39.7%

WEIGHTED
Colgate 93.4%
Bucknell 93.0%
Lafayette 83.5%
Navy 80.4%
Loyola 78.3%
Army 75.8%
Boston 66.0%
American 52.3%
Lehigh 45.0%
Holy Cross 40.3%


Note: Boston U gets back two solid reserves in SG Cheddi Mosely and forward Destin Barnes. Both were suspended for most of the season last year. Lehigh and American each pick up two transfers who are eligible this year.


Coming next - a compilation of players lost due to transfer or graduation.




 
Bison137 
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07-20-17 04:49 PM - Post#231125    
    In response to Bison137

Here are players lost to transfer since last season began:

AMERICAN
• Delante Jones 6-5 soph SF – to Seattle; was PL ROY in 2015-16; was worse as soph.
• Lonnie Rivera 6-6 soph PF – transferred to Wagner; started a number of PL games after Tolksdorf was hurt.
• Alex Paquin 6-0 jr CG – to McGill (Canada) as grad transfer.
• Andrija Matic 6-10 soph Center – going to Europe ; was a regular in rotation as a freshman, rarely played as soph.

ARMY
• None known at this point. But with 10 freshmen and 10 sophomores on the 2016-17 roster, some churn is inevitable.

BOSTON
• None known.

COLGATE
• Dave Krmpotich 6-7 soph PF – left team during season last year but appears to still be a Colgate student.

HOLY CROSS
• Tyrone Cohen 6-5 freshman wing - to Hutchison Community College; was expelled from HC after 1st semester.

LAFAYETTE
• Monty Boykins 6-5 senior wing - to Pitt for a redshirt senior year. Already graduated from LC but missed senior year due to shoulder injury.
• Dom Cristiano 6-8 PF/C (recruited walk-on) - to NYU.

LEHIGH
• Brandon Alston 6-5 junior wing - transferred to Georgia Tech with two years of eligibility left. Alston was LU’s 6th man for much of the season and then became a key starter for final ten games. Played 33 minutes in championship game.
• Matt Holba 6-7 redshirt soph SF/PF - to Indiana Fort Wayne. Was a starter until mid-January, and averaged about 20 mpg.

LOYOLA
• Dylan Gollihar 7-0 frosh center - to Lees-McRae. Gollihar was a project and missed the entire season due to injury.
• Austin Harriott 6-4 frosh wing - to Bloomsburg. Rarely played as a freshman.

NAVY
• James Butler 6-8 frosh PF - to Drexel. Butler left the Navy team when PL play started.




 
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07-20-17 08:10 PM - Post#231128    
    In response to Bison137

First of all, thank you Bison137 for compiling and posting this. Its enriching to read and passes the summer faster too. Decidedly good news for Bucknell as their 15-3 team is returning a lot of the stuff that made them winners last year, but Lafayette may be groaning from the abundance of returning production of their 5-13 team! And other teams could be getting great talent in and Army is always a wildcard team. Thats how I see it. Bucknell is in the catbird seat. My question is even with a wider gap between the Bison and the others than last year, can they improve on 15-3 and 26-9? On paper and on court they are a great team, but how good? Nana could be downing the mac and cheese and getting distracted by video games and girls, Bruce Moore could be a book-reading nerd we just don't know. But how are they going to improve on the impressive W column from last year?

Edited by Paulie777 on 07-20-17 08:11 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Bison137 
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07-21-17 05:09 PM - Post#231161    
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Continuing, here are all of the players lost by team, starting with Army ("AR"). Players who transferred out are designated with a "TR".


- Brown, Richard AR 6-6 . 16 games, 4.3 mpg, 0.5 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 0.3 apg.
- Edwards, Kennedy AR 6-6 . 27 games, 14.8 mpg, 5.6 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 0.5 apg.
- Hoffman, Mac AR 6-8 . 32 games, 21.6 mpg, 6.2 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 0.8 apg.
- Mammel, Scott AR 5-11 . 32 games, 13.3 mpg, 3.7 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.8 apg.

- Andrija Matic AU (Tr) 17 games, 6.8 mpg, 1.3 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 0.2 apg.
- Jones, Delante AU 6-5 (Tr) 30 games, 31.6 mpg, 11.5 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.8 apg.
- Jones, Charlie AU 6-4 . 30 games, 33.5 mpg, 6.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 2.6 apg.
- Paquin, Alex AU 6-1 (Tr) 25 games, 10.6 mpg, 2.6 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 0.5 apg.
- Rhea, Jalen AU 6-2 24 games, 14.2 mpg, 4.0 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 0.2 apg.
- Rivera, Lonnie AU 6-6 (Tr) 21 games, 17.4 mpg, 5.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.5 apg.
- Tolksdorf, Leon AU 6-8 14 games, 18.3 mpg, 2.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.7 apg.

- Alston, Justin BOS 6-8 . 32 games, 23.9 mpg, 12.0 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 0.7 apg.
- Fanning, Eric BOS 6-5 . 32 games, 28.0 mpg, 14.9 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 2.1 apg.
- Haines, Dylan BOS 7-0 . 19 games, 6.7 mpg, 1.4 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.3 apg.
- Mbargorba, Blaise BOS 7-0 . 8 games, 9.6 mpg, 2.3 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.0 apg.

- Azzinaro, John Buck 5-11 . 31 games, 8.1 mpg, 3.0 ppg, 0.6 rpg, 0.2 apg.
- MacLeay, D.J. Buck 6-7 . 33 games, 8.7 mpg, 2.9 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.3 apg.

- Bargmann Andrew CU 6-3 . 22 games, 8.3 mpg, 1.7 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.5 apg.
- Harries Nathan CU 6-2 . 22 games, 19.0 mpg, 5.1 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.4 apg.
- Krmpotich Dave CU 6-7 (LT) 7 games, 4.9 mpg, 2.4 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.3 apg.

- Alexander, Malachi HC 6-7 . 32 games, 34.5 mpg, 13.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 1.9 apg.
- Champion, Robert HC 6-6 . 32 games, 31.9 mpg, 13.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.3 apg.
- Husek, Matt HC 6-11 . 32 games, 18.8 mpg, 6.7 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 0.8 apg.
- Thompson, Anthony HC 5-9 . 32 games, 33.3 mpg, 6.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 2.2 apg.

- Boykins, Monty LC 6-5 (Tr) 1 games, 25.0 mpg, 3.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.0 apg.
- Lindner, Nick LC 5-11 . 30 games, 33.3 mpg, 13.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 4.0 apg.

- Gorski, Nick LOY 6-9 . 19 games, 5.1 mpg, ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.0 apg.
- Harriott, Austin LOY 6-4 (Tr) 16 games, 5.9 mpg, 0.9 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.0 apg.
- Jones, Jarred LOY 6-6 . 32 games, 30.8 mpg, 14.9 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.8 apg.

- Alston, Brandon LU 6-5 (Tr) 32 games, 20.6 mpg, 6.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 1.2 apg.
- Carter, Devon LU 6-4 . 19 games, 5.1 mpg, 1.2 ppg, 0.2 rpg, 0.1 apg.
- Holba, Matt LU 6-7 (Tr) 31 games, 19.4 mpg, 3.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.0 apg.
- Kempton, Tim LU 6-10 . 32 games, 31.6 mpg, 20.4 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 1.1 apg.
- Price, Austin LU 6-4 . 32 games, 31.4 mpg, 13.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.7 apg.

- Abruzzo, Tim NA 6-5 . 24 games, 14.5 mpg, 4.8 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.6 apg.
- Alade, Edward NA 6-9 . 32 games, 16.7 mpg, 4.6 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.6 apg.
- Butler, James NA 6-7 (Tr) 4 games, 6.3 mpg, 1.3 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.3 apg.
- Fong, Zach NA 6-0 . 21 games, 7.9 mpg, 2.6 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.6 apg.
- Hemphill, James NA 6-7 . 19 games, 6.3 mpg, 1.9 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.2 apg.


Note that Boykins missed virtually the entire season due to a shoulder injury and Tolksdorf missed all PL games due to a knee injury. Also Harries missed about half the PL games due to injury. And Mbargorba was suspended for the majority of the season.




 
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07-23-17 03:40 PM - Post#231191    
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Thanks for all the great info 137. It's way too early to speculate on final league standings - so I won't other than to say the Bison should dominate, barring major injuries.

Paulie, don't worry about Nana. He's been in the gym working on his game. It's scary to think how good he might be this season.

 
Bison137 
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08-31-17 04:40 PM - Post#232532    
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More info. Here are all the players being added to rosters. I have included transfers who sat out last year and are now eligible to play, plus a couple of players who missed the entire year to injury. (Also listed in italics are the Army/Navy players who appear to be heading for a redshirt year at their prep schools, although it is sometimes hard to tell.)

Also every reported offer for each recruit is shown, taken largely from Verbal Commits but also from their twitter accounts. For some additional perspective, I have listed each player's commitment date. That is relevant because players who committed early likely would have received more and possibly better offers. Those who committed before July 1st (prior to Summer AAU) might be considered very early and probably would have received more/higher offers. Those who committed by the end of August are somewhat early and might well have improved the offer list. Those who committed later in the Fall and in the Spring often were not going to upgrade the offer list.

As a guess, I would say the team with the top quality freshmen is Boston U, followed by Bucknell and Lehigh. Tops in terms of quantity of legitimate prospects are Lehigh, Holy Cross, and American.

- - - - -

Legend:


Fr = normal incoming freshman.
RFr = Service Academy player who "redshirted" at their prep school last year.
Juco = junior college transfer who is eligible to play this year.
Tran = transfer who sat out last year.
INJ = player who did not play at all last year due to injury.
Prep = Service Academy player who is being "redshirted" at their prep school this year.

- - - - -

ARMY:
1 RFr - - Blackwell, Tucker (MAPS past yr) - 6-1 PG (IN) - IUPUI; committed 5/3/16
2 RFr - - Finke, Nick (MAPS past yr) - 6-7 PF (IL) - none; committed 11/7/15
3 RFr - - Fuller, Cameron (MAPS past yr) - 6-8 PF (CA) - none; committed 12/11/15
4 Fr - - - Grayson, Lonnie 6-2 SG (OH) - none; committed 11/19/2016
5 Fr - - - King, Alex 6-8 SF (IN) - Ball State, Lehigh, Evansville, Indiana State, Navy; committed 3/25/17
6 RFr - - Madden, Mark (MAPS past yr) - 6-4 wing (IN) - none; committed 8/4/15
7 Fr - - - Scully, John 6-2 PG (TX) - none; committed 7/26/16

Prep - Caldwell, Josh (MAPS this yr) - 6-1 PG (SC) - none; committed 7/25/2016
Prep - Duhart, Aaron (MAPS this yr) 5-11 PG (VA) - NJIT, UMBC; committed 11/1/2016
Prep - Helton, Josh (MAPS this yr) 6-9 PF/C (NC) - none; committed 9/22/16
Prep - Kinker, Ben (MAPS this yr) - 6-8 PF (IN) - none; committed 10/29/16
Prep - McGlothan, Gabe (MAPS this yr) 6-6 PF (AZ) - No. Colorado, MT State, E. Wash., Portland St., NDSU, (all 2015 offers), Cal Davis; committed 9/27/16

AMERICAN:
1 Fr - - - Beckton, Stacey 6-5 SG (FL) - Manhattan, JMU, UNF, Alcorn, Bethune (all old offers) - committed 4/21/17
2 Fr - - - Bragg, Marvin 6-7 wing (CA) - none; committed 11/10/2016
3 Juco - Diallo, Cheikh (juco transfer) - 6-3 SG (Senegal/Kilgore CC) - none; 6/17/17
4 Fr - - - Hoekstra, Max 6-7 SF (Netherlands/ss Feet Acad.) - none; 11/20/16
5 Fr - - - Iorio, Sam 6-6 SF (PA) - Boston, Lehigh, LC, Rider, Bing, UNH, Brown, MSM; committed 9/21/16
6 Fr - - - Lamont, Drew 6-8 PF (FL) - Jacksonville; committed 9/30/16
7 Fr - - - Little, Jesse 6-10 Center (MS) - none; committed 3/25/17

8 Tran - Motuzis, Laurynas (transfer, sat out past season) 6-6 SF (IL) - none; started for St. Xaver (NAIA) as a frosh



BOSTON:
1 Fr - - - Mathon, Sukhmail 6-10 Center (PA) - LaSalle, Bucknell, Penn, HC, Colgate, LC, Columbia, Brown, Canisius, Qpac; committed 8/8/16
2 Fr - - - McCoy, Javante 6-5 CG (TX/PG yr at Phillips Exeter) - Yale, Fordham, Northeastern, San Diego, San. Fran., Dartmouth, Cornell, Elon, Colgate, LC; committed 10/15/16
3 Fr - - - Whyte, Walter 6-6 SF (CT) - VCU, Richmond, Davidson, St. Joes, Bona, Fordham, Duq, Rice, W&M, Towson, Bowling Green, Hofstra, Siena, Niagara, Penn, Yale, Brown, Qpac, Monmouth, Lehigh, HC, etc; committed 10/5/16

BUCKNELL:
1 Fr - - - Meeks, John 6-6 SF - Bona, Delaware, Air Force, UNCG, Charleston So., Columbia, Brown, Dartmouth, Army, American; committed 9/19/16
2 Fr - - - Newman, Paul 6-9 Center - Towson, Brown; committed 4/12/17
3 Fr - - - Sotos, Jimmy 6-3 PG - Drake, UNI, IL State, Loyola (IL), W&M, W. Mich., Milwaukee, Priceton, Penn, Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, Army, LC, Northeastern, Wofford, Furman, Elon, Winthrop, Campbell; committed 10/3/16

COLGATE:
1 Fr - - - Baxter, Hugh 6-8 PF (Australia); committed in spring
2 Fr - - - Burns, Jordan 6-0 PG (TX/PG Kent School) - none ; committed 11/11/15
3 Fr - - - Ferguson, Jack 6-2 SG - none ; committed 4/11/2017
4 Fr - - - Maynard, David 6-4 wing (committed in 2015, did 2-yr Mormon mission) - none? ; committed 2/13/15

HOLY CROSS:
1 Fr - - - Butler, Austin 6-5 SG (PA) - UNH, Navy; committed 8/8/16
2 Fr - - - Copeland, Kyle 6-4 SG (VA/PhillipsExeter) - High Point, MSM, St Francis, American; committed 8/9/16
3 Fr - - - Faw, Matt 6-9 PF/C (PA) - American, Navy, LC ;committed 8/11/16
4 Fr - - - Grandison, Jacob 6-6 SF (CA/Phillips Exeter) - none; committed 3/10/17
5 Fr - - - Green, Caleb 5-11 PG (NH) - Fairfield, Stony Brook, Chattanooga, Loyola (MD), LC, Brown, UNH; committed 8/6/2016
6 Fr - - - Niego, Connor 6-8 PF -Winthrop, Evansville, Green Bay ; committed 8/9/16

LAFAYETTE:
1 Fr - - - Hastings, Dylan 6-9 Center (PA) - MSM; committed 8/27/16
2 Fr - - - Jaworski, Justin 6-1 CG (PA) - American; committed 3/30/17
3 Fr - - - Petrie, Alex 6-3 PG (VA) - Towson, Northeastern, Drexel, MSM, Radford, Cal Poly; committed 8/24/16
4 Fr - - - Stephens, Eylijah 6-4 wing (FL) - none; committed 2/20/17

LEHIGH:
1 Fr - - - Bennett, Caleb 6-5 wing (MO) - UTEP, UNI, Bufalo, ORU, San Jose, Middle TN; committed 9/6/16
2 Fr - - - Karnik, James 6-9 Center (CAN) - Cansius, No. AZ, Maine, Montana State, Jacksonville; committed 4/18/17
3 Juco - Porter, Ed (Juco transfer - 3 yrs of eligibility) 6-7 SF (FL) - ?; committed May 2017
4 Fr - - - Wilson, Marques 6-4 SG (OK) - Bucknell, Evansville, W. IL, UMKC, Brown, IA State (?) - from April of soph yr; committed 9/5/16

5 INJ - - Lieb, Jack 6-10 Center (2nd yr but hasn't played due to injury) - 6-10 Center (IL/PG yr in NH) - LC, Boston, App St, Niagara, Siena, IL St, Loyola (IL), SIUE
6 INJ - - Sedore, Caleb (3rd yr but hasn't played due to injury) - 6-11 Center (NY) - Bucknell, Cornell
7 Tran - Tejada, Lance (transfer, sat out past yr) 6-2 PG (FL) - Orig offers: FL State, Miami, Butler, Alabama, UVA, TX A&M, GMU, USF, etc - At E. Carolina, averaged 14 mpg and 4 ppg, shot 30%

LOYOLA:
1 Fr - - - Hart, Isaiah 5-10 PG (GA) - Coastal Carolina, W. Carolina, Alcorn; committed 3/28/17
2 Fr - - - Holcombe, Brent 6-7 PF (FL) - Charleston Southern, Winthrop, Youngstown, TN Tech; committed 4/18/17
3 Fr - - - Johnson, Luke 6-3 SG (KY) - none; committed 9/9/16
4 Fr - - - Reed, River 6-9 PF/C (TX) - Evansville, Rider, St. Francis, Dartmouth, North Texas, Houston Baptist; committed 10/19/16

NAVY:
1 Fr - - - Davis, Cameron 6-0 PG (MO) - Army; committed 9/12/16
2 RFr - - Lake, Eli (NAPS past yr) 6-6 SF (SC) - Coastal Carolina, USC Upstate; committed 10/28/15
3 RFr - - Lawrence, Jack (NAPS past yr) 6-9 Center (VA) - none ; committed 8/31/2015
4 Fr - - - Loehr, Alec 6-7 PF (MN) - Army; committed 10/22/16
5 Fr - - - Loehr, Luke 6-7 PF (MN) - Army; committed 10/22/16
6 Fr - - - Mathis, JR 6-0 PG (KY) - IUPUI; committed 10/24/16
7 RFr - - Ogele, Daniel (NAPS past yr) 6-6 SF (IL) - none; committed 2/11/16
8 RFr - - Reagan, Ryan (NAPS past yr) 6-8 PF (PA) - Air Force; committed 10/5/15
9 Fr - - - Riemersma, Tyler 6-7 PF (IN) - Army; committed 9/11/16

Prep - Carter, John ( MAPS this year) 6-5 SF (TN) - Campbell; committed 9/15/16
Prep - Marion, Kyle (MAPS this year) 6-1 PG (FL) - Towson, Army, Jacksonville; committed 12/16/16
Prep - Merete, Gabe (MAPS this year) 6-7 SF (FL) - Army; committed 10/3/16
Prep - Silva, Christian (MAPS this year) 6-2 PG (FL) - none; committed 4/14/17
Prep - Summers, Greg (MAPS this year) 6-2 PG (FL) - none; Spring 2017
Prep - Terrell, Jaylon (MAPS this year) 6-3 PG (GA) - none; committed 11/20/16



- - - - -

Fr = normal incoming freshman.
RFr = Service Academy player who "redshirted" at their prep school last year.
Juco = junior college transfer who is eligible to play this year.
Tran = transfer who sat out last year.
INJ = player who did not play at all last year due to injury.
Prep = Service Academy player who is being "redshirted" at their prep school this year.




 
SomedayCameSuddenly 
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08-31-17 10:27 PM - Post#232536    
    In response to Bison137

Not sure if you missed it or didn't list him because he verbally committed after the BU roster came out but Boston University has one more recent commitment, though not as highly touted for the 2017 class in Andrew Petcash.

Petcash, Andrew 6-4 CG (PA) - St. Francis (PA), Army, Navy; committed 8/28/17

Edited by SomedayCameSuddenly on 08-31-17 10:27 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Bison137 
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08-31-17 10:35 PM - Post#232537    
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  • SomedayCameSuddenly Said:
Not sure if you missed it or didn't list him because he verbally committed after the BU roster came out but Boston University has one more recent commitment, though not as highly touted for the 2017 class in Andrew Petcash.

Petcash, Andrew 6-4 CG (PA) - St. Francis (PA), Army, Navy; committed 8/28/17





Definitely didn't miss him - since I was the one who posted his commitment on your board. Just forgot to add him, as my spreadsheet was completed a week ago (although only posted today).

Any news on which Boston U scholarship player has left - or if that account in the Petcash article was incorrect?




 
Bison89 
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09-01-17 04:51 AM - Post#232539    
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137, that list must have taken hours and possibly days to compile. Thank you!

Just based on the number and quality of offers per player, there appears to be a big difference between BU/Bucknell/Lehigh and the rest of the PL.

With Bucknell not being an active player in the transfer/JUCO game, It is interesting to see where some players come from. Something tells me that there might be some stories behind these players.
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
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09-01-17 11:02 AM - Post#232551    
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  • Bison137 Said:
  • SomedayCameSuddenly Said:
Not sure if you missed it or didn't list him because he verbally committed after the BU roster came out but Boston University has one more recent commitment, though not as highly touted for the 2017 class in Andrew Petcash.

Petcash, Andrew 6-4 CG (PA) - St. Francis (PA), Army, Navy; committed 8/28/17





Definitely didn't miss him - since I was the one who posted his commitment on your board. Just forgot to add him, as my spreadsheet was completed a week ago (although only posted today).

Any news on which Boston U scholarship player has left - or if that account in the Petcash article was incorrect?



The belief on the BU board was the player is Blaise Mbargorba who was granted an extra year of eligibility due to his injury at SMU apparently. He had been hanging out with the Coach Jones and some other team members this summer in photos. This also makes sense as to why BU hadn't recruited a 13th player for a scholarship until late this summer.

 
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09-06-17 10:59 AM - Post#232662    
    In response to SomedayCameSuddenly

How might this change in transfer status affect Bucknell? I think it is more fair for players but not sure how GPA angle will work given all of the suspected and known Tom-foolery with athletes courses and grades. And can coaches hold players "hostage" as some have done in the past?

https://twitter.com/aslater247/status/905 184638779...



 
Bison89 
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09-06-17 12:15 PM - Post#232665    
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I can't see the NCAA allowing all transfers to be immediately eligible to play. That would be CRAZY!

https://usc.247sports.com/Article/Sources-Major -Po...
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
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09-06-17 07:08 PM - Post#232685    
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  • Bison89 Said:
I can't see the NCAA allowing all transfers to be immediately eligible to play. That would be CRAZY!

https://usc.247sports.com/Article/Sources-Major -Po...



i will not be surprised if this happens.

 
Bison137 
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09-06-17 08:31 PM - Post#232686    
    In response to KenZ

I won't be surprised if it happens - and I won't be at all surprised if it is CRAZY. On the one side, it might help a couple of the PL teams that are OK with bringing in transfers - Lehigh, American, Colgate, and maybe Boston U. But on the other hand, Lehigh and American have also had multiple players transfer out. That's good for a program if it's the underperformers who depart - but not good if it is rotation players.




 
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09-07-17 02:16 PM - Post#232710    
    In response to Bison137

article with a number of coaches registering their concerns with the proposal

http://scout.com/college/basketball/re cruiting/Art...



 
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09-07-17 06:53 PM - Post#232718    
    In response to KenZ

Excellent points by all. I think they leave it as it is but not allow coaches to hold players hostage if they wish to transfer and sit out a year.

 
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09-07-17 08:38 PM - Post#232719    
    In response to KenZ

  • KenZ Said:
article with a number of coaches registering their concerns with the proposal

http://scout.com/college/basketball/re cruiting/Art...



Wow, those quotes really get your attention. Very interesting. Thanks for posting that.

 
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09-08-17 08:04 AM - Post#232724    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

and, of course, Jay Bilas makes the case for immedate elegibility

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/story/...

 
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09-08-17 09:09 PM - Post#232744    
    In response to KenZ

Actually, the way he words it, he has valid points as well. The NCAA are hypocritical at several turns.

 
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09-11-17 10:06 AM - Post#232762    
    In response to MrPhillie

Apparently, somebody is making a movie about HC's 1954 championship team called Purple Reign. The HC board is talking about it. Personally, I think that the trailer is very interesting. BTW, I never knew that HC is the smallest school to ever win a hoops championship.

http://crossports.freeforums.net/thread/1595/purpl...
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
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