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09-11-17 02:20 PM - Post#232770
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Just to clarify, holy cross won the NCAA championship in 1947. That was an eight team tournament, all played at MSG. Their 1954 title was in the NIT.
Hopefully the movie will point out that it took a Bucknell graduate (Doggie Julian) coaching them for them to win the 1947 title.
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09-18-17 08:37 AM - Post#232912
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Looks like practice can officially start on 09/29 which is 2 Fridays from now. Is the athletic department planning anything special to get the students pumped up for what should be an exciting season?
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Re: Around the Patriot League 2017-18 09-27-17 07:11 PM - Post#233276
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- SomedayCameSuddenly Said:
- SomedayCameSuddenly Said:
Not sure if you missed it or didn't list him because he verbally committed after the BU roster came out but Boston University has one more recent commitment, though not as highly touted for the 2017 class in Andrew Petcash.
Petcash, Andrew 6-4 CG (PA) - St. Francis (PA), Army, Navy; committed 8/28/17
Definitely didn't miss him - since I was the one who posted his commitment on your board. Just forgot to add him, as my spreadsheet was completed a week ago (although only posted today).
Any news on which Boston U scholarship player has left - or if that account in the Petcash article was incorrect?
The belief on the BU board was the player is Blaise Mbargorba who was granted an extra year of eligibility due to his injury at SMU apparently. He had been hanging out with the Coach Jones and some other team members this summer in photos. This also makes sense as to why BU hadn't recruited a 13th player for a scholarship until late this summer.
Following up on this, the player who left was not Mbargorba - which seemed a bit implausible. It was their starting PG, junior Kyle Foreman, who will remain in school but no longer play hoops. That means their starting PG will presumably be senior Eric Johnson, who has been the backup the last two years, averaging 15-20 mpg. Not as good as Foreman but not a big drop-off. The backup will either have to be frosh Javante McCoy, a 6-5 CG who may not be ready for that role, or else starting wing Cedric Hankerson, who is a 5th year senior. He has played that role occasionally in the past, but it would likely hamper his scoring.
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09-27-17 08:00 PM - Post#233279
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Laffayette gets a commitment from Sean Good who is rated as high as 3.5 stars. I am not sure of the accuracy of that however. He appears to have been recruited at a higher level early on but still a good recruit for the Leopards. 137 any more info ?
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Around the Patriot League 2017-18 09-27-17 09:53 PM - Post#233283
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Laffayette gets a commitment from Sean Good who is rated as high as 3.5 stars. I am not sure of the accuracy of that however. He appears to have been recruited at a higher level early on but still a good recruit for the Leopards. 137 any more info ?
He likely is a solid PL recruit, but I don't think there is much chance of him being another Mike Muscala or Nana Foulland. I doubt he will end up as good as Jared Mintz, although only time will tell.
He got an offer from Penn State at the start of his sophomore year - likely based on him already being 6-10 - and then added ones from Rice, Davidson, Penn, Boston U, and Colgate in the spring of his soph year. Then no reported offers for 15 months - except from Columbia - as his game appeared to plateau and he apparently stopped growing. I think PSU and Davidson pulled their offers at some point, but I can't confirm that. Given his school's proximity to Lewisburg, I am sure Bucknell scouted him - but he did not have a Bison offer. His final four were Colgate, Lafayette, Columbia, and Rice.
Good plays for a relatively small Catholic school (Trinity) in Camp Hill. Their competition is reasonably good, but far from great. Good last year - as a 6-10 junior - only averaged 8.6 ppg, but he did get 10.1 rpg and 4.4 bpg. (For comparison, as a freshman two years earlier he averaged 7.7 ppg, 9.7 rpg, and 5.1 bpg.) Not surprisingly, he had a big height advantage over most of his competitors, but is very thin (maybe 205 pounds). He was surrounded by two all-state players, which likely affected the number of shots he took but also meant he got easier shots than if he were the main offensive weapon. In AAU ball, he played for a strong team (Team Final) that had two superstars (ended up at Duke and Oregon) and a number of solid mid-major players. Good averaged about 10 mpg for that team, based on their website box scores.
As for his 3.5 stars, which is a Verbal Commits average of 4 stars from ESPN and 3 stars from Rivals, you have to remember that those sites see very few of the players who aren't superstars. Good suddenly went from unranked to 4 stars from ESPN when he picked up the PSU offer at the start of his sophomore year. Likely the same with Rivals.
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09-28-17 01:01 PM - Post#233308
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Mid-Major Madness story on Holy Cross:
https://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/9/24/16354114...
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09-28-17 01:05 PM - Post#233309
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Poster on Holy Cross board explains Bucknell basketball success:
"Bucknell no hockey not fighting a two-front war. Basketball featured winter sport."
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09-28-17 01:50 PM - Post#233319
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Poster on Holy Cross board explains Bucknell basketball success:
"Bucknell no hockey not fighting a two-front war. Basketball featured winter sport."
Bad coaching, no Admin support, antiquated facilities, etc.
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11-12-17 10:10 AM - Post#235968
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Navy beat a very poor Pitt team, Loyola only lost by 4 points to #19 Northwestern.
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11-12-17 11:43 AM - Post#235979
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Navy beat a very poor Pitt team, Loyola only lost by 4 points to #19 Northwestern.
And Lafayette only lost by two to George Mason. Navy plays at Miami today.
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11-14-17 09:46 PM - Post#236339
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Monmouth up 12 over Lehigh with 5 to play. Lehigh's freshman center looks decent. They also have Pat Andre back. Still don't think they'll break the top 3 in the PL.
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11-14-17 10:16 PM - Post#236347
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Monmouth ended up winning 80-72 at Lehigh. Monmouth had 27 turnovers vs 9 for LU, but they outrebounded LU 53-24.
In other games, LC had a bad loss to a weak NJIT team, Loyola lost at Fairfield, and Army blew out the always tough John Jay College of Criminal Justice. Army used 20 players in that game.
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11-17-17 12:32 AM - Post#236757
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Very nice win for Holy Cross tonight: 73-69 over Harvard in Worcester. Colgate beat Cornell.
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11-17-17 12:39 AM - Post#236759
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Holy Cross has now beaten Harvard four straight years - all as an underdog - after a very long losing streak to them.
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Around the Patriot League 2017-18 11-17-17 10:12 PM - Post#236834
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Lafayette down 40 early in the 2nd at Villanova. Can they keep the margin under 50? Loyola gets spanked by Towson 95-72. Lehigh & Sienna down to the wire in OT.
Edited by jkrun80 on 11-17-17 10:13 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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11-18-17 02:15 PM - Post#236859
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Lehigh ended up beating Siena 91-90 in OT. Siena was victimized by a fast clock at the end. Siena got the ball back with 3.34 seconds left, but buzzer went off within 3.1 seconds, before they could get a shot off. Looks like the clock may have started - incorrectly - when a missed FT hit the rim.
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11-25-17 04:09 PM - Post#237571
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Holy Cross stayed close to a good Albany team for much of the game but got blitzed down the stretch. Albany on fire from three. Final 78-62.
Colgate leads Columbia at home. They have been playing very well. And Lehigh is down by nine points at a weak Pitt team. I thought they had a reasonable shot to win that one.
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11-25-17 05:20 PM - Post#237579
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Colgate leads Columbia at home. They have been playing very well. And Lehigh is down by nine points at a weak Pitt team. I thought they had a reasonable shot to win that one.
Lehigh lost to Pitt 80-68. It was 72-69 with just over 3 minutes left - but LU missed their last 8 shots. And Colgate beat Columbia at home 77-71.
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11-26-17 08:27 AM - Post#237905
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Navy was beaten badly by FGCU. Shot very poorly, including a lot of missed layups and 2-18 from 3.
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11-29-17 11:27 AM - Post#238290
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Loyola has lost two close road games that they would have won if healthy. They are missing All-PL PG Andre Walker, who went down with some sort of injury two games ago, and also missing Chancellor Barnard, who is out for the season with a torn pectoral muscle.
Here is how the OOC games have gone for the league, as compiled by SOV on the HC site:
The PL is currently 24-33 against non-conference opponents, and ranked #21 as a conference by Ken Pomeroy.
Tuesday's game:
Loyola 63, Dartmouth 64
American (2-3): L Kansas State, L West Virginia, L Wagner, W New Hampshire, W VMI
Army (3-2): L Hofstra, W John Jay, W Marist, W Columbia, L Niagara
Boston U (2-3): L Northeastern, L Albany, L Connecticut, W Maine, W Wheaton
Bucknell (3-4): L Monmouth, L Arkansas, L North Carolina, L Maryland, W Siena, W Ball State, W Stony Brook
Colgate (3-2): L Connecticut, W Cornell, W UMBC, L Boston College, W Columbia
Holy Cross (2-3): W Sacred Heart, W Harvard, L Rhode Island, L Fairleigh Dickinson, L Albany
Lafayette (0-5): L George Mason, L NJIT, L Villanova, L Princeton, L St. Peter's
Lehigh (3-3): W Marist, L Monmouth, W Siena, W Eastern, L USC, L Pittsburgh
Loyola (1-5): L Northwestern, L Fairfield, L Towson, W Goucher, L UMass Lowell, L Dartmouth
Navy (5-3): W Pittsburgh, L Miami (FL), L Pennsylvania, W Bryant, W Washington College, W St. Francis NY, L FGCU, W Denver
MAC: 1-0
Southern: 1-0
Summit: 1-0
America East: 4-3
Ivy League: 4-3
NEC: 3-2
MAAC: 4-5
ACC: 1-4
Big East: 0-1
Pac-12: 0-1
SEC: 0-1
American: 0-2
Atlantic Sun: 0-2
Atlantic 10: 0-2
Big Ten: 0-2
Big 12: 0-2
Colonial: 0-3
Non-D1: 5-0
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