Chet Forte
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10-21-17 05:00 PM - Post#234309
Incredible road win against a previously undefeated Dartmouth team! Hope this football team, picked for 8th, is an inspiration to our MBB team!
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Tiger69
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Re: Bagnoli is a genius 10-22-17 09:46 AM - Post#234326
In response to Chet Forte
Great win. Bagnoli picked some great players and taught them well.
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Chet Forte
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11-12-17 08:53 AM - Post#235962
In response to Tiger69
Let’s see a huge turnout for the home football finale. If we win, our Lions will be 8-2. And if Harvard rises up and somehow beats Yale we will actually be co-champs. So with all the hand wringing about recruiting against some of our basketball rivals, obviously Al has found that he can get the job done. Hopefully Smith, Castlin and the current group of young players can experience the same level of success this season.
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Murph
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11-12-17 11:33 AM - Post#235978
In response to Chet Forte
I have to hand it to you Chet, you were 100% correct about Bagnoli. Needless to say, I was skeptical that he could make a difference. But the turn-around of Columbia's moribund football program after 57 years, is nothing short of miraculous.
All hail Al!
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Chet Forte
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11-18-17 09:23 AM - Post#236840
In response to Murph
Hope to see a good turnout at Baker Field today. Rain should hold off. If Harvard beats Yale and we beat Brown we are co-champs!!!
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Silver Maple
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11-18-17 12:03 PM - Post#236842
In response to Chet Forte
I just had a vision of flying pigs having a snowball fight in hell.
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Chet Forte
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11-19-17 08:38 AM - Post#236909
In response to Silver Maple
Nice turnout despite the weather to see our Lions take it to Brown and close out at 8-2.
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Chet Forte
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11-22-17 09:46 AM - Post#237322
In response to Chet Forte
COY. Well deserved. Lots of grousing on Voyforums from Yale guys boosting Reno. Lesson here is that great coaching matters. Despite my grousing I am starting to miss Kyle Smith based upon what I saw last night.
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mrjames
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11-22-17 10:21 AM - Post#237325
In response to Chet Forte
Kyle Smith is an amazing basketball mind. Maybe not the recruiter that many would want or hope for, but an amazing basketball mind.
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Columbia 37P6
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11-22-17 11:28 AM - Post#237333
In response to mrjames
I agree that Kyle was a terrific game coach, but I am not ready to disparage his successor or the players based upon a single loss last night to a surprisingly good and talented Army team at West Point. After all, we played well in the opening game of the season against the nation's #1 team, Villanova, and then played reasonably well against another powerful team, Penn State, at their home court. We also did ok against an athletic Longwood team. So let's hope that the loss to Army last night was more of an aberration than a tendency and that the team will learn from the experience and bound back. In that regard, I am convinced that the Lions have the puzzle pieces for a very successful season and that it is just a matter of fitting the pieces together which does not require the extraordinary genius of an Al Bagnoli or the exceptional game skills of a Kyle Smith. Mike Smith is a terrific point guard, Lukas Meisner is very close to being a dominant Ivy League player (if he stops shooting threes and stays near the basket), Faulds, Bibbs, Hanson and Stefanini are four very talented freshmen and Adlesh and Hickman are prolific scorers who just need some fining tuning. Throw in Hunter, who needs also to stay near the basket and put up some points, Killingsworth who is a talented shooter and ballhandler and now Barba who looked solid last night, so, in my opinion, there is reason to hope.
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mrjames
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11-22-17 01:52 PM - Post#237343
In response to Columbia 37P6
Plenty of reason to hope - didn't mean that as a commentary on the current team. Just that Kyle's pretty awesome. Engles is a different type of coach, but doesn't mean that his ability to recruit won't get Columbia to similar heights as under Kyle.
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SRP
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11-22-17 06:02 PM - Post#237368
In response to mrjames
The NJIT job Engles did ought to earn him some leeway. That was incredible.
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cc66
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11-22-17 06:23 PM - Post#237377
In response to SRP
Yes, it should, but I am finding it harder to glimpse whatever it was that propelled that climb. True, against Army, both our starting center and our starting forward were sidelined with injuries, but most everyone else looked a step slow and a little bit lost. Youth? A failure to settle on a lineup and let them develop chemistry? Or another kind of coaching deficit? It is hard to tell, though certainly the initial returns are not reassuring.
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Chet Forte
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11-22-17 07:06 PM - Post#237386
In response to cc66
I assume that this will be met with cries of derision, but Engles coached an entirely different type of player than he is coaching at Columbia. When we played NJIT, we had a much better team but he had better athletes who were capable of playing a much more fast paced one on one type of game. So Kyle was able to outcoach Engles and beat him. His teams didn’t play much defense, but they could run and gun. I am just not sure from the early returns if he is the right coach for an Ivy type of team. And when Kyle decided to .leave I am not sure if we conducted much of a search. I truly hope I am wrong. Engles also does not seem to have much media savvy and has not done the sort of PR outreach that Al Bagnoli does with Carly Nevis.
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Dr. V
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11-23-17 12:33 AM - Post#237426
In response to Chet Forte
It's early in the season and we haven't played any games at home, but the disappointment articulated in above posts suggests either that Engels and Agel have forgotten how to coach or that the proverbial cupboard was much emptier than we seemed to think.
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Murph
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11-25-17 09:14 AM - Post#237549
In response to Dr. V
I'm not going to throw Engels under the bus, until we start losing games we should win. This is a difficult stretch of the schedule. Let's hope we'll be better for it, once league play begins.
A win over Colgate today would be a good start.
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Murph
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Bagnoli is a genius 11-25-17 02:14 PM - Post#237562
In response to Murph
One thing I notice that Smith does well is manage his schedule. For example, San Francisco is 3-1, but had played the 342nd strongest schedule in the nation.
Meanwhile, Columbia is 1-3, but has played the 16th most difficult schedule (KenPom).
And Smith, being a tireless self-promoter, has been doing this for years. Smith's most difficult Columbia schedule was ranked 177th in the nation in 14-15. And his easiest CU schedule was 236th in the nation in 11-12 (Sports Reference).
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Chet Forte
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11-25-17 05:22 PM - Post#237581
In response to Murph
We can’t seem to defend the three point shot.
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