bradley
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11-11-17 03:08 AM - Post#235894
In response to Tiger69
Butler had 24pt halftime lead against weak opponent and took foot off pedal. 6’7†forward Martin was good. Disappointing start for IL teams other than Columbia. Yale is in trouble w/o Bruner and Mason.
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SRP
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11-11-17 05:49 AM - Post#235896
In response to bradley
Injuries and transfers are definitely starting to shake things up. Hope PU hasn't been affected.
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bradley
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11-11-17 11:47 AM - Post#235903
In response to SRP
Let’s keep our fingers crossed. IL BB fans may have a case of “irrational exuberance†at beginning of season - performance will tell ultimate story - very early but not a good start. Butler has won 36 straight games at Hinkle against non-conference. 20-4 after 4 minutes last night albeit against weak opponent. Go Tigers!
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SRP
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11-11-17 03:49 PM - Post#235930
In response to bradley
What I'm looking for in this first game (besides a possible quality win) is aggression and confidence. I would like to see the Tigers be the hunters for 40 minutes, play decisively, box out hard, create deflections, get the 50-50 balls, be strong with the ball, and attack the rim undeterred by occasional shot blocks. They need to set a tone for the season, especially for the young players. I sense that making plus plays will matter more on the margin than avoiding mistakes in this game.
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Tiger81
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11-12-17 07:35 PM - Post#236014
In response to SRP
Can't watch the game because I am on a flight (bad planning, I know) but it looks like it was Much and Desrosiers plus Cannady, Bell and Stephens who started the game, so much for the game notes. 20-19 Butler after 10 minutes with Alec Brennan scoring 7 unexpected points.
How do the Tigers look?
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1LotteryPick1969
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11-12-17 07:41 PM - Post#236015
In response to Tiger81
Can't stop the penetration.
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TigerFan
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11-12-17 07:42 PM - Post#236016
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Defense looks very weak tonight.
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TigerFan
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11-12-17 07:43 PM - Post#236017
In response to TigerFan
Tigers just fell apart after the horrible no call on the Butler goaltending.
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1LotteryPick1969
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11-12-17 07:53 PM - Post#236021
In response to TigerFan
Several bad calls. The charging call on Stephens HORRIBLE
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Tiger81
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11-12-17 07:53 PM - Post#236022
In response to TigerFan
Game stats show that Butler has taken 9 more shots than Princeton due to TO's and OR's.
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gokinsmen
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Butler 11-12-17 07:55 PM - Post#236023
In response to TigerFan
Offense looks great, but the defense is too soft. Homer refs have stolen at least 7pts on Princeton buckets (obvious goaltend + 2 "charges"). Butler flops like crazy on every single defensive stand...Brad Stevens' class is gone from that program.
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TigerFan
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11-12-17 07:58 PM - Post#236025
In response to Tiger81
Amir Bell looks like he's ready for a great senior season. Stephens was robbed on two bs offensive foul calls but looks ready to pick up where he left off last year. Defense has a long way to go. Freshman jitters noticeable. Hope they can play a little better in second half.
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Tiger81
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11-12-17 08:02 PM - Post#236026
In response to TigerFan
No Gladson?
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jeromelh
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11-12-17 08:05 PM - Post#236027
In response to Tiger81
I was also going to ask about Gladson. I hope it isn't serious Butler is flopping and getting away with it. The first charging all on Stephens was an obvious block. The second was an obvious flop. Without the bad calls, this game would be close. We have to be patient with the freshmen. They need time to grow.
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Butler 11-12-17 08:08 PM - Post#236030
In response to gokinsmen
Offense looks great, but the defense is too soft. Homer refs have stolen at least 7pts on Princeton buckets (obvious goaltend + 2 "charges"). Butler flops like crazy on every single defensive stand...Brad Stevens' class is gone from that program.
Good point. I hate flopping (and therefore Duke).
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jeromelh
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11-12-17 08:11 PM - Post#236031
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Whatever the issue with Gladson, it must have happened yesterday as he tweeted yesterday and he was ready for Butler
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TigerFan
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11-12-17 08:15 PM - Post#236034
In response to Tiger81
So far #33 not showing Much. (Sorry)
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jeromelh
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11-12-17 08:21 PM - Post#236035
In response to TigerFan
Give him time
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Tiger81
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11-12-17 08:32 PM - Post#236036
In response to jeromelh
Of Princeton's 29 shots so far, Stephens has taken 11, Bell has taken 8 and Cannady has taken 5. Yikes.
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gokinsmen
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Butler 11-12-17 08:33 PM - Post#236037
In response to jeromelh
Myles Stephens is easily the best player on both ends for either team. He's had 3 buckets waved off to boot!
The reason for the deficit are our two freshmen starters. They've been big fat zero on both ends (with a couple of bad minus plays by Much). I guess Mitch wants them ready for Ivy play, but I'd rather see Brennan start for one of them.
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