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Username Post: Butler        (Topic#20643)
bradley 
Masters Student
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Age: 68
Reg: 01-15-16
11-11-17 02:08 AM - Post#235894    
    In response to Tiger69

Butler had 24pt halftime lead against weak opponent and took foot off pedal. 6’7” forward Martin was good. Disappointing start for IL teams other than Columbia. Yale is in trouble w/o Bruner and Mason.

 
SRP 
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Reg: 02-04-06
11-11-17 04:49 AM - Post#235896    
    In response to bradley

Injuries and transfers are definitely starting to shake things up. Hope PU hasn't been affected.

 
bradley 
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Age: 68
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11-11-17 10:47 AM - Post#235903    
    In response to SRP

Let’s keep our fingers crossed. IL BB fans may have a case of “irrational exuberance” at beginning of season - performance will tell ultimate story - very early but not a good start. Butler has won 36 straight games at Hinkle against non-conference. 20-4 after 4 minutes last night albeit against weak opponent. Go Tigers!

 
SRP 
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11-11-17 02:49 PM - Post#235930    
    In response to bradley

What I'm looking for in this first game (besides a possible quality win) is aggression and confidence. I would like to see the Tigers be the hunters for 40 minutes, play decisively, box out hard, create deflections, get the 50-50 balls, be strong with the ball, and attack the rim undeterred by occasional shot blocks. They need to set a tone for the season, especially for the young players. I sense that making plus plays will matter more on the margin than avoiding mistakes in this game.

 
Tiger81 
Freshman
Posts: 92
Tiger81
Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
11-12-17 06:35 PM - Post#236014    
    In response to SRP

Can't watch the game because I am on a flight (bad planning, I know) but it looks like it was Much and Desrosiers plus Cannady, Bell and Stephens who started the game, so much for the game notes. 20-19 Butler after 10 minutes with Alec Brennan scoring 7 unexpected points.

How do the Tigers look?

 
1LotteryPick1969 
PhD Student
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1LotteryPick1969
Age: 67
Loc: Baltimore, Maryland
Reg: 11-21-04
11-12-17 06:41 PM - Post#236015    
    In response to Tiger81

Can't stop the penetration.

 
TigerFan 
Masters Student
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Reg: 11-21-04
11-12-17 06:42 PM - Post#236016    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

Defense looks very weak tonight.

 
TigerFan 
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11-12-17 06:43 PM - Post#236017    
    In response to TigerFan

Tigers just fell apart after the horrible no call on the Butler goaltending.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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11-12-17 06:53 PM - Post#236021    
    In response to TigerFan

Several bad calls. The charging call on Stephens HORRIBLE

 
Tiger81 
Freshman
Posts: 92
Tiger81
Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
11-12-17 06:53 PM - Post#236022    
    In response to TigerFan

Game stats show that Butler has taken 9 more shots than Princeton due to TO's and OR's.

 
gokinsmen 
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Butler
11-12-17 06:55 PM - Post#236023    
    In response to TigerFan

Offense looks great, but the defense is too soft. Homer refs have stolen at least 7pts on Princeton buckets (obvious goaltend + 2 "charges"). Butler flops like crazy on every single defensive stand...Brad Stevens' class is gone from that program.

 
TigerFan 
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11-12-17 06:58 PM - Post#236025    
    In response to Tiger81

Amir Bell looks like he's ready for a great senior season. Stephens was robbed on two bs offensive foul calls but looks ready to pick up where he left off last year. Defense has a long way to go. Freshman jitters noticeable. Hope they can play a little better in second half.

 
Tiger81 
Freshman
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Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
11-12-17 07:02 PM - Post#236026    
    In response to TigerFan

No Gladson?

 
jeromelh 
Freshman
Posts: 6

Age: 75
Reg: 03-30-17
11-12-17 07:05 PM - Post#236027    
    In response to Tiger81

I was also going to ask about Gladson. I hope it isn't serious Butler is flopping and getting away with it. The first charging all on Stephens was an obvious block. The second was an obvious flop. Without the bad calls, this game would be close. We have to be patient with the freshmen. They need time to grow.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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Re: Butler
11-12-17 07:08 PM - Post#236030    
    In response to gokinsmen

  • gokinsmen Said:
Offense looks great, but the defense is too soft. Homer refs have stolen at least 7pts on Princeton buckets (obvious goaltend + 2 "charges"). Butler flops like crazy on every single defensive stand...Brad Stevens' class is gone from that program.



Good point. I hate flopping (and therefore Duke).

 
jeromelh 
Freshman
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Age: 75
Reg: 03-30-17
11-12-17 07:11 PM - Post#236031    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

Whatever the issue with Gladson, it must have happened yesterday as he tweeted yesterday and he was ready for Butler

 
TigerFan 
Masters Student
Posts: 892

Reg: 11-21-04
11-12-17 07:15 PM - Post#236034    
    In response to Tiger81

So far #33 not showing Much. (Sorry)

 
jeromelh 
Freshman
Posts: 6

Age: 75
Reg: 03-30-17
11-12-17 07:21 PM - Post#236035    
    In response to TigerFan

Give him time

 
Tiger81 
Freshman
Posts: 92
Tiger81
Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
11-12-17 07:32 PM - Post#236036    
    In response to jeromelh

Of Princeton's 29 shots so far, Stephens has taken 11, Bell has taken 8 and Cannady has taken 5. Yikes.

 
gokinsmen 
Postdoc
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Reg: 02-05-10
Butler
11-12-17 07:33 PM - Post#236037    
    In response to jeromelh

Myles Stephens is easily the best player on both ends for either team. He's had 3 buckets waved off to boot!

The reason for the deficit are our two freshmen starters. They've been big fat zero on both ends (with a couple of bad minus plays by Much). I guess Mitch wants them ready for Ivy play, but I'd rather see Brennan start for one of them.


 
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