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Username Post: Boudreaux transferring        (Topic#20655)
20Penn14 
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Reg: 02-26-12
03-29-18 03:17 PM - Post#254525    
    In response to rbg

Committed to Purdue

https://twitter.com/EBoudreaux12/status/9 794332251...

 
palestra38 
Professor
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Reg: 11-21-04
03-30-18 11:49 AM - Post#254574    
    In response to 20Penn14

That's a good situation for him.

 
mbaprof 
Sophomore
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Age: 61
Reg: 12-24-11
03-31-18 04:43 PM - Post#254627    
    In response to palestra38

I was told by a family member that he intends to study for an MBA with his two years of eligibility, Purdue is a ranked program, X is nowhere


 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
Masters Student
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Loc: Our Nation's Capital
Reg: 01-18-05
04-02-18 02:29 PM - Post#254663    
    In response to mbaprof

Does he have to sit out a year?

 
Silver Maple 
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Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
04-02-18 03:21 PM - Post#254664    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

I doubt it. He already did that this past season at Dartmouth.

I wonder if he regrets his decision to go to Dartmouth in the first place?

 
SRP 
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04-02-18 07:14 PM - Post#254672    
    In response to Silver Maple

I know some folks on the Purdue management faculty. Maybe one of them will have the best scorer/rebounder in the MBA class in his or her section.

 
PennFan10 
PhD Student
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04-02-18 07:47 PM - Post#254674    
    In response to SRP

He will not have to sit. Graduate transfers are eligible immediately. His mom is an AA from Dartmouth and is on the BOT I believe. I doubt he regrets the decision and he likely planned all along to graduate early.

 
Go Green 
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04-02-18 08:21 PM - Post#254675    
    In response to PennFan10

  • PennFan10 Said:
and he likely planned all along to graduate early



If so, announcing his departure the day before the season opener was a pretty crappy move. Would have been better for all involved if he left the team after the previous season ended.

 
Silver Maple 
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04-02-18 09:06 PM - Post#254677    
    In response to Go Green

I find it farfetched that this was his evil plan all along. It seems far more likely that he expected the team to be much more competitive than it turned out to be. Once he finally (and probably reluctantly) accepted the fact that there was very little chance he would ever see the postseason as a Dartmouth player, he quickly decided to hang onto two years of eligibility and take his talents to West Lafayette.

 
PennFan10 
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04-02-18 11:47 PM - Post#254680    
    In response to Silver Maple

Oh I don’t think he planned on two years but he quite likely planned on one as a post grad. He was on track to graduate after 3 years. He couldn’t play as a graduate at Dartmouth so he clearly had intentions of a 4th yr elsewhere. I think not being voted captain by his teammates and then the coaches not over ruling that decision led him to go for the 2nd yr suddenly.

 
Go Green 
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04-03-18 09:01 AM - Post#254698    
    In response to PennFan10

  • PennFan10 Said:
I think not being voted captain by his teammates and then the coaches not over ruling that decision led him to go for the 2nd yr suddenly.



You could very well be correct that such is the way things went down.

But in my opinion, that really doesn't make him look much better...

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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Loc: New Jersey
Reg: 01-21-14
04-03-18 09:21 AM - Post#254702    
    In response to Go Green

Totality of Circumstances?
- not recognized by teammates (captaincy)
- not recognized by league (1st team all Ivy)
- coach who recruited you fired
- season prospects dim (although as it turns out Dartmouth really had a chance to finish 4th)

Certainly graduating in 3 years and transferring for a single graduate season would be completely justified and understandable (e.g., Mitola). Under the above listed circumstances, maybe the reason for the late decision was due to his loyalty to Dartmouth which could have made the decision tougher. Note that 9 Pitt players sought permission to transfer within days after Stallings was canned.

Boudreaux might deserve some credit here.



 
Go Green 
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04-03-18 09:27 AM - Post#254704    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

  • HARVARDDADGRAD Said:
Totality of Circumstances?
- not recognized by teammates (captaincy)
- not recognized by league (1st team all Ivy)
- coach who recruited you fired
- season prospects dim (although as it turns out Dartmouth really had a chance to finish 4th)






The last three either already happened or were foreseeable last April. The only "new" circumstance was the captaincy.

Maybe you think its fine to bail because you weren't elected captain. I don't.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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04-03-18 11:07 AM - Post#254713    
    In response to Go Green

Maybe I didn't communicate well. I think we're on the same side. I see Evan disappointed at the coaching change and the team's and his prospects. He shows up, practices, and tries to work through his disappointment. Maybe his disappointment is validated by the practices/coaching, and the final insult is that he's rewarded for trying by not being voted captain - likely the straw that breaks the camels back. Maybe, like Tony Hicks of Penn, the new coach is at the same time attempting to redirect the team's approach in a way that doesn't suit him as well.

That's why I suggested a "totality of the circumstances' that snowballed. That would explain timing that appears to be 'disloyal' when in reality it could have been the result of Evan's bending over backwards to hang in there.

 
Go Green 
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04-03-18 12:12 PM - Post#254724    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD


Gotcha. Seems like you gave a more detailed version of what PennFan10 said.

Again, my opinion is that once you show up for training camp, you're there. If you're thinking about walking away, then the decision whether or not to do so should be made prior to that time.

Even assuming he was genuinely undecided and the captain thing was the proverbial tipping point, he comes across as petulant.

 
somedartmouthstudent2 
Freshman
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Age: 22
Reg: 02-21-18
04-03-18 08:42 PM - Post#254750    
    In response to Go Green

I get providing context around his final destination, but why are we still discussing this. It makes OUR fanbase look childish. Let go, he fulfilled his end of the bargain Boudreaux is graduating from our school. IMO he doesn't owe us anything.

 
Go Green 
Masters Student
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Age: 47
Reg: 04-22-10
Boudreaux transferring
04-04-18 08:49 AM - Post#254759    
    In response to somedartmouthstudent2

  • somedartmouthstudent2 Said:
It makes OUR fanbase look childish.



You'll have to forgive us for actually caring about the program. Not sure what type of fan bases would feel differently...

Look, if he announced his decision to leave immediately after last season, people would have been bummed, but would have been fine with it. It would have given McLaughlin and the coaches a fighting chance to find a replacement. Even if that didn't materialize, they could have planned for an Evan-less team over the summer. All those reps they ran with him being the focal point in training camp? Someone else would have gotten the work. Maybe Knight gets more time with the first-team and develops faster.

By going through training camp and announcing the day before the season opener, he really screwed the team. Short of actually trashing the program in public, I can't imagine a worse way to leave than what he did.

If there were exceptional circumstances, people would understand. If a family member became ill in the Fall and he wanted to transfer to a program nearer to home, then fine. If he just decided that his heart wasn't in it and he wanted to give up college basketball to focus on studies, then fine. But neither appear to be the case here.

In sum, not all decisions to leave the program are created equal. Some are better taken than others.

Edited by Go Green on 04-04-18 08:51 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
PennFan10 
PhD Student
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Reg: 02-15-15
04-04-18 11:15 AM - Post#254765    
    In response to Go Green

I think he was planning on leaving after year 3, thus the graduation track for this May. He clearly had lingering frustrations (coaching change, all league snub, non competitive program, etc) and the captain decision resulted in a knee jerk reaction to sit out the year and then transfer.

while I agree with Go Green, you start practice and you are committed and don’t quit, situations like Tony Hicks happen, where he planned to play and was told he should consider transferring.

 
Joe.Yemly 
Freshman
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Age: 32
Reg: 03-08-17
04-04-18 02:05 PM - Post#254786    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

  • HARVARDDADGRAD Said:
I see Evan disappointed at the coaching change



If you don't think the Boudreaux's had at least a say in the firing of coach Cormier, then I'm a Nigerian prince and I'd like to wire you some money.

 
Silver Maple 
Postdoc
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Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
04-04-18 02:52 PM - Post#254789    
    In response to Joe.Yemly

Perhaps he approved of the firing of Cormier but didn't appreciate his replacement?

 
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