Chip Bayers
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Loc: New York
Reg: 11-21-04
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11-20-17 08:19 PM - Post#237114
In response to Chip Bayers
BTW, 100 fans in a 7100 seat arena is very, very quiet.
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PennFan10
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Posts: 3584
Reg: 02-15-15
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11-21-17 10:35 AM - Post#237166
In response to Chip Bayers
Regression to the mean shooting for both teams and still a double digit win?
Penn 24 assists, 11 turnovers
NIU 11 assists and 19 turnovers.
The trend continues......
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Cvonvorys
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Loc: Princeton, New Jersey
Reg: 10-11-06
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11-21-17 10:59 AM - Post#237168
In response to PennFan10
It was very refreshing to see Penn stave off any serious run that NIU made. I was worried that NIU might cut the deficit to under 10 before halftime. Didn't happen. Teams will invariably go on runs of 6-0 or 8-0, but Penn never allowed them to spiral to 14-2 or 16-4. Antonio going 4-5 from 3-point range certainly was big for us. Maybe P38 is right about him?
By the way, was anyone besides me surprised that Jarrod only got 1 minute of PT after his play on Saturday?
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TheLine
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Northern Illinois
11-21-17 11:15 AM - Post#237174
In response to Cvonvorys
Rothschild was the star of the game IMO but Woods gave him a run for his money. He was a plus in all facets of the game - defending was solid and he consistently made good decisions on the offensive end.
Simmons is 4th in the pecking order for the bigs. When Brodeur and Rothschild play like that then he's not getting minutes unless one of the big 2 get in foul trouble or it's a blowout.
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PennFan10
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11-21-17 11:31 AM - Post#237180
In response to TheLine
And I wouldn’t put much stock into a 16 pt performance vs a low end D3 opponent. That said Jarrod plays in every game which is important and I’m sure his role will expand as he figures things out and learns to play and practice hard. Jarrod will be a key piece as the year progresses. We have seen good progress from Eddie, who is a bit ahead of Jarrod but I expect the holiday break to help these youngsters catch up.
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yoyo
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Reg: 03-25-09
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11-21-17 12:02 PM - Post#237189
In response to PennFan10
A Woods starting to get his sea legs back. Onward Quakers!
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Silver Maple
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Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
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11-21-17 01:46 PM - Post#237213
In response to PennFan10
And I wouldn’t put much stock into a 16 pt performance vs a low end D3 opponent. That said Jarrod plays in every game which is important and I’m sure his role will expand as he figures things out and learns to play and practice hard. Jarrod will be a key piece as the year progresses. We have seen good progress from Eddie, who is a bit ahead of Jarrod but I expect the holiday break to help these youngsters catch up.
Agreed. The key thing w. freshmen is that they’re getting PT.
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Penndemonium
PhD Student
Posts: 1896
Reg: 11-29-04
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11-21-17 06:14 PM - Post#237260
In response to Silver Maple
This was obviously a good W for the team. Can someone remind me whether Northern Illinois is a quality opponent or not? I saw that we were favored, which implies to me that they are a Sub-150 type of team.
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TheLine
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11-21-17 06:29 PM - Post#237261
In response to Penndemonium
KP 237 so doesn't appear to be. Towson's going to be a tougher matchup.
It was a nice win regardless. The team did what it was supposed to do and then some.
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penn nation
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11-21-17 06:40 PM - Post#237263
In response to Penndemonium
I don't think anyone in this tourney outside of Georgia Southern would be considered a quality opponent.
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Penndemonium
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Posts: 1896
Reg: 11-29-04
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11-21-17 07:46 PM - Post#237265
In response to penn nation
Thanks. In previous years, I never felt confident even playing a KP 237. They won this one solidly.
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Silver Maple
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Northern Illinois
11-21-17 07:50 PM - Post#237266
In response to Penndemonium
How the team does against Towson will tell us somewhat more than any of the previous three wins. Georgia Southern, if we play them, will tell us even more still.
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PennFan10
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11-21-17 08:00 PM - Post#237268
In response to Silver Maple
Missouri State is a Top 100 KP team
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Mike Porter
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Reg: 11-21-04
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11-22-17 02:19 AM - Post#237314
In response to PennFan10
For Penn Nation:
In fairness Towson is a top 125 team and maybe fringe 100 team (they were around 116 before our game and after are down to 111).
Missouri State and Georgia Southern are all solid mid majors this year close in ratings to the top of our league (110 and 90 on Kenpom this evening).
Those sound like quality opponents to me. The shame is that we blew the chance to face another quality opponent by losing to Towson tonight.
Behind door #2 is a UMKC team ranked way down at 284, but who only lost to Georgia Southern by 3 and comfortably beat the Manhattan team that beat Harvard. Sounds like a trap to me... hope the guys can bounce back quickly.
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AsiaSunset
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11-22-17 07:50 AM - Post#237316
In response to Mike Porter
Towson was the better team last night. They are very athletic and they made their shots in the 2nd half.
We were clearly shaky during their first half run. Darnell looked unhinged but later settled down and played pretty well in the 2nd half.
I think Penn would need more time to prepare for a team like that. They were literally as quick as our ball movement in defending the three ball. Probably more designed screens, back door cuts and slowing the game down a bit might have worked last night. But - Penn played ok for most of the game. The fact is that Towson was just better than us last night and our game plan didn't negate their strengths.
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