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Tiger69 
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11-23-17 08:11 PM - Post#237494    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Only fair that it goes to Jadwin for two years, then New Haven....etc.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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Loc: New Jersey
Reg: 01-21-14
11-23-17 09:51 PM - Post#237499    
    In response to Tiger69

How about giving it to the 4th seeded team every year?
Sort of like a golfers handicap





 
Eric Von Zipper 
Freshman
Posts: 33

Age: 64
Reg: 11-11-17
11-24-17 07:58 AM - Post#237509    
    In response to bradley

Harvard's 18 point loss to St. Mary's gets them St. Joe's today.

Let's see how they handle the Hawks.

 
Tiger69 
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11-24-17 08:58 AM - Post#237510    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

Is it possible that some of those 4* recruits up in Cambridge might be saddled with 4* egos? Always a risk.

 
Tiger69 
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11-24-17 09:03 AM - Post#237511    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Why not the entire trip? Eight team Tourney at eighth seed campus. It would be worth it to see teams jockeying for last

 
bradley 
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11-24-17 09:21 AM - Post#237512    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

St. Mary's is a very good experienced team playing close to home. After watching some of the game, it strikes me that Harvard has the most talented team in the Ivies but they are currently playing 3 on 5 basketball like the Tigers although they have slightly better players 3 on 3 and overall a more talented squad. What is the team chemistry -- who knows?

They should be getting their act together as the season goes along as they are still very young. Will they reach the hype of #10 ESPN recruiting class probably not but they will get better over time.

The fear that the 2016-17 Crimson freshmen were simply going to run the table to four IL championships based on their 3 and 4 star high school ratings was unfounded and the IL Tournament may well be a neutralizer for their remaining 3 years. It would not be surprising if Yale would have won the IL crown this year like the Tigers last year if not for injuries but we will never know.

The one good thing is that when the Ivies play the Ivies this year, one team will get a win. Unfortunately, the RPI of many IL teams may not be very good if non-conference results continue on. Hopefully, Mitch and the boys will come up with the winning formula in league play but the Crimson will be a challenge.

 
mrjames 
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Reg: 11-21-04
11-24-17 11:41 AM - Post#237521    
    In response to bradley

It's worth addressing all of this chatter about Harvard and its recruiting class and yada yada yada...

Harvard mostly whiffed on every recruiting class after the huge 2011 class that netted Wes, Steve, Jonah, Kenyatta and Corbin. Some of that was players not reaching potential, some of that was narrowly missing on a ton of wings, some of that was recurring injuries to players they did get. But the 2012 - 2015 classes essentially yielded Siyani, some elite moments from Zena, Corey Johnson and (maybe) Tommy McCarthy.

Which means that 2016-17 really needed to be viewed as the start of a complete rebuild, not sustaining something from the past. Harvard's 10th rated freshman class was worth 11 win shares last season (easily a record for an Ivy freshman class) and so far this season has been worth nearly 2 win shares (pacing for 12ish). Corey Johnson is the only player to have seen the rotation from the 2014 or 2015 classes. Harvard's team is actually younger than it was last year.

I don't know who had this fear that Harvard's freshmen would just run the table for four years, but it badly overestimated what was left in the cupboard to support that 2016 class. Harvard's 2016 class added to a stable core of a mostly upperclassmen starting five would have been competitive with Princeton last year and could have fulfilled that "all four years" talk, but that simply wasn't there.

Once the luck starts to regress (105 ORAT on poss with a 3-pointer will rise to the 130 neighborhood, for instance), Harvard's going to hit its stride and be just fine.

 
Eric Von Zipper 
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Age: 64
Reg: 11-11-17
11-24-17 12:18 PM - Post#237527    
    In response to bradley

St. Joe's opens the 2 1/2 point favorite on the neutral court.

 
Eric Von Zipper 
Freshman
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Age: 64
Reg: 11-11-17
11-24-17 07:50 PM - Post#237540    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

Cantabs go wire to wire, 77-71.

 
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