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Bison137 
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11-28-17 06:22 PM - Post#238213    


Bucknell Game Article:

http://www.bucknellbison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_O...




 
Bison137 
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11-28-17 06:25 PM - Post#238214    
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Kimbal Mackenzie has been shut down indefinitely. Jimmy Sotos will start in his spot. That seems like a good decision, but likely should have happened a couple of weeks earlier. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see Kimbal again until after exams.




 
LewisburgLocal 
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11-28-17 06:26 PM - Post#238215    
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from the article..." Junior Kimbal Mackenzie is out indefinitely after undergoing surgery to repair an abdominal muscle tear."

 
Bison137 
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11-28-17 06:45 PM - Post#238217    
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  • LewisburgLocal Said:
from the article..." Junior Kimbal Mackenzie is out indefinitely after undergoing surgery to repair an abdominal muscle tear."




Thanks for noting that. It's obviously hard to estimate a return date, but looking quickly at what might have been similar injuries, the abdominal tear to the Packers' Greg Jennings stands out. The link describes the injury in detail and why surgery might be necessary. Fwiw, Jennings returned to the field in four weeks.




 
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11-28-17 07:00 PM - Post#238219    
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I hope this takes care of the issue and gets Kimbal back to the Kimbal we’ve grown accustomed to seeing. The team absolutely needs a healthy Kimbal moving forward. I know he’s helped in some other areas but the truth is, his effectiveness has been limited. You just cannot have a player playing the fourth most minutes shoot 26% and his injury had to effect his mobility on defense as well. But aside from a basketball perspective, I hope he gets better purely from the standpoint of his health.

 
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11-28-17 07:10 PM - Post#238220    
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As for who picks up Kimbal’s minutes, as we know Sotos will start and probably get 24-27 minutes. Makes sense that Nate Jones will get more minutes. But I’ also can see Meeks on the floor a bit more with Bruce getting some extra time at the guard spot.

 
Bison137 
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11-28-17 07:17 PM - Post#238221    
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Sotos getting 30 or more minutes a game. Other than him and Brown, the only real guards on the bench are O'Reilly and Sechan. Depending on the defense, Jones can give them a few minutes there but he is really not a guard. Same with Robertson. Had Toomer not also been hurt, he could have slotted right into that spot.




 
bison63 
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11-28-17 07:19 PM - Post#238222    
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I've said right along that I think Kimbal is the key difference between us being a great team as opposed to a very ood team. If all others pay their normal game, and we have the Kimbal of the WVA game we can beat anybody. If he is not quite up to the WVA standard, we will still give most teams fits.

Edited by bison63 on 11-28-17 07:27 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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11-28-17 07:23 PM - Post#238224    
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  • Bison137 Said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see Sotos getting 30 or more minutes a game. Other than him and Brown, the only real guards on the bench are O'Reilly and Sechan. Depending on the defense, Jones can give them a few minutes there but he is really not a guard. Same with Robertson. Had Toomer not also been hurt, he could have slotted right into that spot.


I agree. Sotos and O'Reilly will pick up the bulk of his minutes, which have been limited compared to last year. Wouldn't mind seeing Jones play more, but he's not a great fit for the 2 guard spot.

 
bison63 
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11-28-17 07:35 PM - Post#238225    
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A word to those who will watch the stream of this game. It is on the A10 network which is not free.. A10 has a 1 day plan that costs $6.95, and a monthly plan that is $14.95. With VCU and Richmond coming up, the monthly not only saves a few bucks, but it allows you to watch any A10 telecast. One word of caution however, "as a convenience" the A10 will automatically renew your monthly membership, so do not forget to cancel before the month is up.

 
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11-28-17 07:50 PM - Post#238226    
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I agree that Jones isn’t a perfect fit, but to me, he would be better defensively than O’Reilly in extended minutes. But given that Davis used O’Reilly more against Ball State, I can see him giving him a shot. Whatever the plan, I think it will be mix and match quite a bit.

 
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11-28-17 08:32 PM - Post#238227    
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  • MrPhillie Said:
I agree that Jones isn’t a perfect fit, but to me, he would be better defensively than O’Reilly in extended minutes. But given that Davis used O’Reilly more against Ball State, I can see him giving him a shot. Whatever the plan, I think it will be mix and match quite a bit.



I agree about the mix and match, we will be seeing different players at different times in another game that could go either way. Sotos has passed every test with flying colors, but will he have a freshman setback tomorrow or will he shine even more? Sotos and O'Reilley will be key here and OReilly's shooting could determine the game. MacKenzie must be tough as nails if he was playing with an ab injury. I'm looking forward to the game! And thanks Bison63 for the tip!

 
bison63 
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11-28-17 08:44 PM - Post#238229    
    In response to Paulie777

St Joes has not been awfully great so far this year. They have a win over Princeton in a home game, but lost to Harvard on a neutral site. Also beat Sac State ( rank 309) by just 5, again on a neutral site. That performance dropped them from 75th in Pomeroy to 87th. This would be a good road win.


 
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11-28-17 08:47 PM - Post#238230    
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Looking at St. Joe’s roster and games this year, even though Newkirk leads them in scoring, I’m more concerned with Demery, Funk and Oliva. Newkirk is shooting only 38% to get his points and I think Stephen may give him some trouble. But Funk is 6’9”-10” and shoots a ton of threes, not sure who will match up with him. And Demery looks to be the athletic type to be a matchup problem as well.

 
Bison137 
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11-28-17 09:04 PM - Post#238231    
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It's interesting that freshman center, 6-9 Taylor Funk, who is from the Lancaster area, only got five reported offers: St. Joes, LaSalle, Boston U, Monmouth, and Rider. No offer from Bucknell, who was desperately in need of a center for that class. He did commit early (May 2016), but he might have been a difference-maker for the Bucknell recruiting class.




 
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11-28-17 09:10 PM - Post#238232    
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  • MrPhillie Said:
Looking at St. Joe’s roster and games this year, even though Newkirk leads them in scoring, I’m more concerned with Demery, Funk and Oliva. Newkirk is shooting only 38% to get his points and I think Stephen may give him some trouble. But Funk is 6’9”-10” and shoots a ton of threes, not sure who will match up with him. And Demery looks to be the athletic type to be a matchup problem as well.




Looking at matchups, 6-10 freshman center Longpre is the starter (ahead of Funk) and I imagine Nana will guard him, with Zach on Oliva and Moore on Demery. When Funk - who is largely a 3-point shooter despite his size - enters, then I see Zach guarding him and Nana switching onto Oliva, who mostly stays close to the basket.

Newkirk is only hitting 26.5% on his threes thus far - as he returns from ACL surgery - but he is still very dangerous. He shot a lot better last year before his injury.




 
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11-28-17 10:44 PM - Post#238242    
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Just bought 2 tickets on Stubhub in Section 118 for $33 each including fees. Looking forward to a fun, competitive game.

It will be interesting to see who steps up.

BTW, Bison89 and a fellow 89er will be at the Landmark Americana Tap & Grill which is just across the street from the game starting at 5:30. Old Bison, I owe you one or more. Feel free to stop by.

http://www.landmarkamericana.com/cl-home/

Go Bison!
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
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11-28-17 11:06 PM - Post#238245    
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My son and I are in Sec 214 I believe...I’m guessing here should be a decent number of Bison fans?

 
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11-29-17 09:06 AM - Post#238273    
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  • MrPhillie Said:
My son and I are in Sec 214 I believe...I’m guessing here should be a decent number of Bison fans?



Phillie, I agree that there should be a sizable Bucknell contingent. If the Bison had won any of the Power Conference games, the crowd would be bigger, but even at 3-4, this is a fun team to watch. Given the the number of Bucknellians in the Philly area, we should see lots of old friends.

I am hoping for a win which will put the Bison at 0.500 for the first time this season.

GO BISON!
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
res 
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11-29-17 10:44 AM - Post#238283    
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Interesting, teamrankings.com has the Bison with a 55.8% chance of winning tonight.

It also shows them as the favorite in all their remaining games except for VCU.


 
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