TigerFan
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11-29-17 10:33 PM - Post#238466
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Sorry. Moment of weakness there...
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SRP
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11-29-17 10:36 PM - Post#238468
In response to TigerFan
Cannady called for the carry. Can't seem to keep it under 10, much less push it to five or so.
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TigerFan
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11-29-17 10:37 PM - Post#238469
In response to SRP
Need to stay disciplined.
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TigerFan
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11-29-17 10:37 PM - Post#238470
In response to TigerFan
I said that and then Sweiger dribbled it off his foot out of bounds. come on!
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TigerFan
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11-29-17 10:40 PM - Post#238471
In response to TigerFan
How many times can I say this tonight: I can not stand what Princeton's offense has become. Where is Pete???!!!
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TigerFan
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11-29-17 10:44 PM - Post#238473
In response to TigerFan
Much in the corner for THREEEEE! Lead down to 5 with 3:45 to play.
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SRP
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11-29-17 10:45 PM - Post#238475
In response to TigerFan
Nothing cleanses the palate like trey, force a turnover, trey. Especially when both swish and look perfect from launch.
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Eric Von Zipper
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11-29-17 10:56 PM - Post#238476
In response to SRP
They are called "free throws".
If they made them, they would have won.
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SRP
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11-29-17 10:57 PM - Post#238478
In response to Eric Von Zipper
Yeah, 15-25 from the line is not going to cut it.
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TigerFan
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Lehigh 11-29-17 10:58 PM - Post#238479
In response to SRP
Tigers pull to within 2 in the second half but can't get it done. Bell can't hit a 3 to save his life at the end and Lehigh does the job at the FT line. The inexcusable uncontested 3 at the end of the 1st half did not help and the FT shooting was disgraceful.
Edited by TigerFan on 11-29-17 10:59 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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penn nation
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11-29-17 10:59 PM - Post#238480
In response to SRP
Yeah, the Quakers were fortunate that 30 for 50 from the line vs Monmouth let them escape with a 4OT victory.
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TigerFan
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11-29-17 11:02 PM - Post#238481
In response to penn nation
Tigers need to put Much and Morales in the starting line up. Without them on the floor there was no energy.
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SRP
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11-29-17 11:03 PM - Post#238482
In response to TigerFan
Definite lack of defensive consistency shown by the team, both within and across possessions. That's why their standard make-them-throw-another-p butt approach isn't working--they're OK for a while, but then a breakdown occurs. When they pressure the ball it shortens the possessions and gets the other team out of its rhythm--Morales was really good at that tonight. Bell played terrific D the second half, too. But short, quick Lehigh guards switched onto Much or another big did not work out well.
And I just cannot get used to watching a Princeton team fail to move the ball on offense. They look like a caricature of 1970s NBA at times, all dribbles and isos. Let the one-on-ones come off of ball and player movement, when the defense is out of position. Either old-school Princeton or new-jack NBA. Right now they seem more talented but less synergistic offensively than in years past.
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SRP
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11-29-17 11:04 PM - Post#238483
In response to TigerFan
TigerFan, Aririguzoh also gave energy but disappeared from the rotation.
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Eric Von Zipper
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11-29-17 11:17 PM - Post#238484
In response to SRP
Saint Peter's just defeated Fairleigh Dickinson by 25. UGH!
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gokinsmen
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Lehigh 11-29-17 11:43 PM - Post#238487
In response to Eric Von Zipper
Pretty pathetic effort. There needs to be a players-only team meeting to get them fired up.
Part of me thinks this malaise has something to do with the conference tourney, which I still totally support. Unless you're gunning for an at-large big, which this year's team isn't, these games lose their energy. I just hope they build up some momentum before league play.
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TigerFan
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11-29-17 11:50 PM - Post#238489
In response to SRP
They look like a caricature of 1970s NBA at times, all dribbles and isos.
This is exactly what I said to my wife tonight during the game. How have we possibly gone this far off the rails?
MH has done a great job recruiting and he did a masterful job keeping last year's team focused throughout a long run through the Ivies but he has either lost control of the team or (worse) he has created an ugly mess.
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SRP
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11-29-17 11:52 PM - Post#238490
In response to TigerFan
To be fair, a version of this "ugly mess" style offense went undefeated last year in Ivy play and almost knocked off Notre Dame. But Weisz played a huge role in moving the defense with his passing prior to guys going to the isos and post-ups, so they generally did it starting with an advantage and with help out of position.
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bradley
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11-29-17 11:55 PM - Post#238491
In response to TigerFan
I agree regarding Morales and Much. My suggestions which are probably wrong would be the following. Amir Bell is a wonderful young man but I do not believe that he has strong leadership skills even though he has taken on the role of Spencer Weisz. During the course of the year, I would turn to Devin to take over the team as he has the will to win just like Weisz and Cook -- they neeed it.
As to rotation, I would go thru growing pains and go with the following:
Guards -- Cannady, Bell and Morales -- no more Young
Forwards -- Stephens, Much and I would go more athletic with Desrosiers and/or Barnes as a back up. I would not play Schweiger or Leblanc much as they are simply not quick enough --- sad for Leblanc
Center -- Arirguzoh, Much and occasionally Gladson but not too much as he is simply too slow of foot and does not hit open 3 pointers. Brennan no more
Coach needs to sit down with Stephens. He has lost some confidence and he is not shutting down the opposing team. Played a lot harder in the 2nd half but he needs to step up defensively for 35 minutes.
My thought is to go young -- make mistakes but play guys who can conceivably get you to the next level. The old Princeton offense probably does not work with this group so go athletic.
Finally, Cannady is simply a player -- he will become or is the heart and soul of this team. He is ferocious not particularly a great defender but a winner. Ride him for as long as you can -- he will not disappoint.
I am probably wrong but sometimes, you need to take a step back to go two steps forward.
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TigerFan
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11-30-17 12:20 AM - Post#238492
In response to SRP
TigerFan, Aririguzoh also gave energy but disappeared from the rotation.
Agreed. In fact, I think the wheels started coming off when Richmond left and Brennan came into the game...
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