Tiger69
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12-03-17 11:37 AM - Post#238882
In response to bradley
Enough of the hand-wringing. It's the IL that counts. The IL Champ is never going more than 2-3 rounds in the NCAAs in bball anyway unless we create a parallel universe for super jocks as some (not me) folks might like. We have plenty to offer bright kids with good judgement who are talented athletes and don't need the adoration of crowds to reenforce their egos. I'm content with a good dose of Ivy Crowns and an occasional exciting match with a jock power. The costs of competing at the level of the Dukes, Kentuckies and Miamies far outweigh the benefits.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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Miami FLA 12-03-17 12:17 PM - Post#238887
In response to Tiger69
Agreed, but note that you just created your own parallel universe in which there are apparently multiple Miamies and Kentuckies!
I think one of each was more than enough for each of us yesterday!
Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 12-03-17 12:18 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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TigerFan
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Re: Miami FLA 12-03-17 02:29 PM - Post#238900
In response to bradley
IL teams will be loading up on Cannady so he needs to keep learning how to get his shot off under severe pressure unless the 4th and 5th options emerge.
This is true but Tigers need to figure out how to give Cannady some help getting open shots. There were almost no high screens last night. #1 from Miami was wearing Devin like a shirt (that kid is impressive) and I kept waiting for MH to try something to help Devin out.
Edited by TigerFan on 12-03-17 02:30 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Miami FLA 12-03-17 02:37 PM - Post#238901
In response to TigerFan
There were almost no high screens last night. #1 from Miami was wearing Devin like a shirt (that kid is impressive) and I kept waiting for MH to try something to help Devin out.
I went back and watched the replay a bit. I was dismayed to see how little effort was made to screen Vasiljevic off the ball. You just gotta make the guy pay for trying to stay so close. More hard screens off the ball might have hindered his shooting touch as well.
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westcoast
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12-03-17 03:49 PM - Post#238906
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Morales did not play--was he suited up on the bench?
Morales was on the bench with some type of boot on his right foot. Hopefully just a minor ankle sprain.
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1LotteryPick1969
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12-03-17 04:20 PM - Post#238907
In response to westcoast
Thanks. When I watched the replay I thought I saw him on the end of the bench.
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SRP
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12-03-17 04:28 PM - Post#238908
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Generally the Tigers ought to be cutting off more screens away from the ball. And if they could run set stuff for Clay Wilson a few years ago, they could do it for Cannady.
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bradley
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Re: Miami FLA 12-03-17 08:19 PM - Post#238920
In response to TigerFan
Devin has added features to his game this year vs. prior years. Besides the obvious 3 pt shooting and the soft floating shot to the basket, he has added a slight 2 pt fade shot in the lane and he has been finishing drives to the basket besides the floater.
Even with the poor shooting night at Miami, his offensive stats are crazy good plus he does not turn over the ball very much. He is not a great defender although he has gotten better and he is not a great passer but he has improved. Should be a great match up when he faces Aiken later this year. Aiken is obviously a very good player but look at the comparable stats between the two of them so far this year.
Some screens would be great like the subtle screen by Stephens on a corner 3 against Lehigh in the 2nd half.
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1LotteryPick1969
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12-03-17 09:32 PM - Post#238923
In response to SRP
Generally the Tigers ought to be cutting off more screens away from the ball. And if they could run set stuff for Clay Wilson a few years ago, they could do it for Cannady.
I'd like to see some double stagger away screens. Really puts pressure on the defender.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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Re: Miami FLA 12-03-17 10:38 PM - Post#238927
In response to bradley
Both Cannaday and Aiken are great players, but they are playing very different roles.
Cannaday is a shooting guard and Aiken is a point guard. They are scoring roughly the same per game. Cannaday is shooting far better, but Aiken is doing more things, evidenced by the fact that Bryce is among the league leaders in assists and Cannaday only has 6 assists on the season. Frankly, I was surprised to see that stat on Devin, as I assumed he sees a lot of touches and has a lot of scorers on the court with him. I venture to say that if Bryce played off the ball he'd be a more efficient scorer.
I'll give the nod to the one who is able to play better defense. Jury's still out I assume.
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bradley
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Re: Miami FLA 12-04-17 10:37 AM - Post#238955
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Appears that Aiken is not only the point guard but the shooting guard as Bryce averages 13 shots per game vs. 10 by Cannady. I agree that he is a better passer but his 3pt percentage 27% is pretty low. I think that he takes 6 3 pt shots per game vs. 7 by Cannady. In all likelihood, the percentage in 3 pt shooting will narrow over time.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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12-04-17 12:06 PM - Post#238971
In response to bradley
Therein lies the Crimson heel of Achilles
Well done my liege!
Oh, and bring me a Shrubbery!
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