gokinsmen
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12-02-17 10:29 PM - Post#238831
In response to TigerFan
After playing great D for 25+ seconds, Miami gives up a totally wide-open 3 to Much at the end of the clock...and it's not even close.
After playing great D for 25+ seconds, Princeton limits Walker to a terrible contested NBA three...which he swishes easily.
That sums up the game nicely.
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Eric Von Zipper
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12-02-17 10:30 PM - Post#238833
In response to TigerFan
Ivy League goes 0-7 tonight.
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TigerFan
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12-02-17 10:30 PM - Post#238834
In response to penn nation
I don't disagree with you penn nation. Just hate to watch the Tigers whiff like this. Cannady and Much going 0-12 from 3 is just freakish.
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penn nation
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12-02-17 10:31 PM - Post#238835
In response to TigerFan
That was a rather tough long pull-up jumper that Cannady did hit, though.
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gokinsmen
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Miami FLA 12-02-17 10:33 PM - Post#238837
In response to TigerFan
This was the wrong year to go with a super-challenging non-conf schedule. Guys are just going to be demoralized come Ivy play.
Unless you have a stacked senior-laden squad, I'd prefer to go with a patty cake non-conf to help the guys gain confidence. Maybe ONE fancy invitational in there for kicks, but that's it.
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TigerFan
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12-02-17 10:35 PM - Post#238838
In response to gokinsmen
Another beautiful pass to Stevens who again drops the ball. Hard to watch...
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TigerFan
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12-02-17 10:37 PM - Post#238839
In response to TigerFan
Well at least Much hit the rim on that one
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TigerFan
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12-02-17 10:38 PM - Post#238840
In response to TigerFan
Miami is just ridiculous from behind the 3-pt line. My goodness!
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sparman
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12-02-17 10:38 PM - Post#238841
In response to TigerFan
I cannot recall such consistently bad 3-pt shooting.
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penn nation
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12-02-17 10:41 PM - Post#238842
In response to sparman
To be fair, a few of those three point attempts were from NBA land.
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TigerFan
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12-02-17 10:41 PM - Post#238843
In response to sparman
Bell and Stevens are combined 5/8 from three. Much and Cannady 0/15. Rest of team 2/7.
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sparman
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12-02-17 10:42 PM - Post#238844
In response to penn nation
Yes, but when you are 0-fer, why keep taking them?
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TigerFan
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12-02-17 10:45 PM - Post#238845
In response to TigerFan
Really classy of Miami to keep starters in when they are up by 25+.
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TigerFan
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12-02-17 10:50 PM - Post#238846
In response to TigerFan
Amir Bell 5/7 (2/3 from 3), 13 pts., 6 reb., 2 asst. 1 steal
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1LotteryPick1969
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12-02-17 10:56 PM - Post#238847
In response to TigerFan
Well, about what I expected.
Miami is one good shooting team! (Did I hear the announcers say they have the best two shooting guards in the country?) Looked like Villanova against Georgetown in the national championship game.
I hope it was not a season ending injury for Gladson.
And so to to bed.
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SRP
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12-02-17 11:05 PM - Post#238848
In response to TigerFan
That was a blowout expanded by unusually good three-point shooting by Miami and unusually bad three-point shooting by PU. Tons of wide-open, in rhythm treys didn't go down, many missing badly. Meanwhile, the Miami sharpshooter couldn't miss and a bunch of guys who usually don't shoot threes were also knocking them in. 8-32 vs. 14-25s accounts for 18 points by itself. At 33% for both teams you'd have that as plus-3 for PU (note they'd still lose by seven if happened).
Miami is really good and will challenge in the ACC and the NCAA tournament. A lot of the Princeton turnovers were unforced by caused by players hurrying or worrying because of Miami's swarming play. And in the second half, the Canes started to get second shots as the Tigers wore down.
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bradley
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12-03-17 09:28 AM - Post#238868
In response to SRP
My walkaways from last night: Miami coach post-game stated that their goal was to shutdown Cannady which they did as Miami is very athletic on the perimeter. Will IL teams be able to shutdown Cannady? Amir stepped up which he strangely does against better competition. Myles style of play gets somewhat negated against big athletic players. Although Much missed so many 3s', he had the guts to take them and a number of them were just a little too long. He looks like he will be the 4th option. The 5th - who knows - especially if Gladson is injured.
Tigers played very competitively thru the first 12 minutes of each half which is actually a positive sign. Tigers and Miami's 3 pt shooting results wildly different and Tigers do not shoot the 3 as well as last year although we shot the same % last year against Notre Dame. Princeton has a lot of growing pains if they have enough talent.
Other walkaway from yesterday is that the IL continues to demonstrate issues as to the quality of their play. To me, Harvard is the most talented team with the most amount of upside but they are 3-6. IL regular season, other than possibly Harvard, will be a crap shoot and who knows the results of the absurd IL Tournament. Unfortunately, the winner will not be a 12th seed like the Tigers, Yale and Harvard teams of recent years. Finally, watching last night's game reaffirmed the grit of last year's Tigers team and affirmed the absurdity if Penn not Princeton went to the NCAA Tournament based on being a 12th vs 15th/16th seed.
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1LotteryPick1969
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12-03-17 09:41 AM - Post#238869
In response to bradley
Morales did not play--was he suited up on the bench?
Vasiljavic was awesome. He followed Cannady as tightly as humanly possible. Then turns around and dropped 3-balls like they were layups.
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Tiger69
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12-03-17 10:18 AM - Post#238871
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Time to give the guys some quiet time and follow the women. Penn has good reasons to be concerned about our young and improving group, now 4-2 with strong performances in both their losses to ranked teams Villanova and Georgia Tech ðŸ…
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bradley
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Re: Miami FLA 12-03-17 10:30 AM - Post#238875
In response to gokinsmen
I understand what you are saying but disagree. Playing against that type of competition gives the coach and the players very clear, visible feedback. Cannady and Much should walk out of the Miami game with some important takeaways. Stephens experienced the need to shoot 3 pointers as he cannot simply go to the hoop. There really is no substitute to playing to the highest level of competition.
I doubt that the blow away loss will take the fight out of the Tigers. The first 12 minutes of the second half showed that they had fight in them. Losing to Lehigh at home and playing the first half like they did may well be depressing vs. the Miami game.
IL teams will be loading up on Cannady so he needs to keep learning how to get his shot off under severe pressure unless the 4th and 5th options emerge.
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