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Username Post: For the history majors.        (Topic#20845)
tguru 
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12-16-17 07:23 PM - Post#240355    

Saturday night, December 16,1967, the 2 Pt. era individual game scoring record was set at The Cathedral of college basketball. 50 years ago and a record that can never be broken. Where's the film, Otto? Was anyone else here in that packed house?

 
13otto 
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13otto
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12-16-17 08:58 PM - Post#240361    
    In response to tguru

I've gone through the La Salle Archives and they don't seem to have film of that game. And since it wasn't a Niagara home game, it's doubtful they would have it, either. So, unless Calvin Murphy has a copy, I doubt that game exists.
http://www.letsgoquakers.com/


 
section110 
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12-16-17 10:05 PM - Post#240365    
    In response to 13otto

I was there & the LaSalle defender (Lefty Ervin?) was within a foot or so of Murphy on almost every shot. It just didn't matter. Imagine what he & Pistol Pete would have averaged with a three point line.

 
Ted 
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12-16-17 11:47 PM - Post#240370    
    In response to section110

It was my sophomore year at Penn. I was there, sitting in the last row in one of the corners with my best friend, in a completely sold out Palestra. We witnessed an incredible performance by Calvin Murphy, who lit up a very good LaSalle team by scoring 52 points, scoring from everywhere on the floor. I loved it that night, but 2 seasons later, Calvin burned us too, scoring 35 and single-handedly knocking the Quakers out of the NCAA tournament, in a first round game at Jadwin. I remember a long, silent ride back to Philly after that one.

Back to 12/16/67 - the first game of the doubleheader that night was also memorable for me, because in that game, Wayne Gibbons, my Central High classmate and friend, beat Villanova with a buzzer beating jumper, to give his visiting Fairfield Stags the victory. This pre-dated my eventual hatred of Villanova, but I was certainly rooting against them that night, too. Way to go, Wayne!

It was a memorable night all around. Hard to believe that 50 years have passed since then.


 
Ted 
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12-16-17 11:54 PM - Post#240372    
    In response to section110

I believe Calvin's unfortunate defender that night for LaSalle was Roland (Fatty) Taylor, who was a very good player in his own right.

Ironically and sadly, Roland just passed away a few days ago.
RIP, Fatty Taylor.

 
Ted 
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Re: For the history majors.
12-17-17 01:04 AM - Post#240376    
    In response to tguru

My friend just reminded me that Calvin Murphy twirled the baton at halftime, too (really).

 
Ted 
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12-17-17 01:07 AM - Post#240378    
    In response to Ted

Trivia Question -

Who was Calvin Murphy's coach at Niagara?

 
Carl0731 
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12-17-17 09:49 AM - Post#240387    
    In response to Ted

Jim Maloney I think

 
tguru 
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12-17-17 11:08 AM - Post#240390    
    In response to Ted

  • Ted Said:
I believe Calvin's unfortunate defender that night for LaSalle was Roland (Fatty) Taylor, who was a very good player in his own right.





+ one Francis Dunphy. Ted, I used to play some 1on1 with Wayne. Did he go to Central High in Bpt, Ct?

 
Lefteroo 
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For the history majors.
12-17-17 11:11 AM - Post#240391    
    In response to Carl0731

I was there - one of my all-time favorite stories. I was a freshman, studying for my first set of finals that would begin two days later. My best friend (who posts here as "Coins") knocked on my door and said, "Let's go!" I said, "Where?" He said, "The Palestra - great doubleheader!" I said, "I know - but...finals!" He said, "Twenty years from now, will you remember your English 101 final, or will you remember Calvin Murphy?" We will both turn 68 very shortly - and no one has ever said a more prescient sentence to me in my entire life. I still thank him to this day. Yesterday was the 50th anniversary of that twin bill, and I still can remember it vividly. I was going to talk here about the Wayne Gibbons shot in the opener, but Ted already covered it. As I recall Murphy made 18 field goals and shot 16-16 from the foul line. He also put on a tremendous pre-game show where he turned the layup drill into a phenomenal display of ball-handling and passing.

Edited by Lefteroo on 12-17-17 11:41 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
tguru 
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12-17-17 11:18 AM - Post#240392    
    In response to Lefteroo

  • Lefteroo Said:
I was there - one of my all-time favorite stories. I was a freshman, studying for my first set of finals that would begin two days later. My best friend knocked on my door and said, "Let's go!" I said, "Where?" He said, "The Palestra - great doubleheader!" I said, "I know - but...finals!" He said, "Twenty years from now, will you remember your English 101 final, or will you remember Calvin Murphy?" We will both turn 68 very shortly - and no one has ever said a more prescient sentence to me in my entire life. I still thank him to this day. Yesterday was the 50th anniversary of that twin bill, and I still can remember it vividly. I was going to talk here about the Wayne Gibbons shot in the opener, but Ted already covered it. As I recall Murphy made 18 field goals and shot 16-16 from the foul line. He also put on a tremendous pre-game show where he turned the layup drill into a phenomenal display of ball-handling and passing.



19-36 14-14 2 block shots / after a fast break 2on1 bank shot 8 straight 3s to start the game.

 
Lefteroo 
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12-17-17 11:44 AM - Post#240394    
    In response to tguru

Did you remember that, tguru, or look it up? I am very impressed. Also, Ted has displayed a remarkable memory.

 
Ted 
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12-17-17 11:46 AM - Post#240395    
    In response to Carl0731

Correct! The late Jim Maloney, father of Penn great Matt Maloney, and later the assistant coach under John Cheney at Temple, was Calvin Murphy’s coach at Niagara.

 
tguru 
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12-17-17 12:06 PM - Post#240396    
    In response to Lefteroo

  • Lefteroo Said:
Did you remember that, tguru, or look it up? I am very impressed. Also, Ted has displayed a remarkable memory.



We were in the same conference in high school and I was a big fan. I took two Pa college dormmates+ a friend to the games. He really came through that night.

 
Ted 
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12-17-17 12:46 PM - Post#240397    
    In response to tguru

tguru - Wayne & I were classmates at Central High School in Philadelphia. He was the star of the BB team, and received a full scholarship to Fairfield U. That is most likely how you ended up playing 1 on 1 against him in Bridgeport, which is right down the road from Fairfield. BTW - I hope you fared better against him than I would have.
A "CHS Intramural Champions - 1965" plaque still hangs on a wall in my house, thanks to Wayne, as CHS then let varsity players play Intramural sports.I keep the plaque up not out of any sense of achievement on my part, but solely because it reminds of my friendship with Wayne, who back then taught me as much about leadership as anyone.
Wayne was (still is, I'm sure) a terrific guy, who also opened my eyes to any pre-conceived notions I may have had back then about African Americans and race relations. Knowing Wayne as I did back then, he would probably be surprised to hear me say these things, because it all seemed to come so naturally to him.

 
Tiger69 
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12-17-17 02:30 PM - Post#240404    
    In response to Ted

Isn’t CHS, Philly also the alma mater one of Princeton’s finest guards, the late Joe Heiser (P’68)? Joe was an all-around class gentleman who also would have been a great beneficiary of the 3 point bucket had he been a few years younger.🐅

 
Ted 
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12-17-17 03:17 PM - Post#240406    
    In response to Tiger69

Tiger69 - yes, indeed it was. Joe was 2 years ahead of me there. He was one of Central's best ever.

 
Tiger69 
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For the history majors.
12-17-17 03:58 PM - Post#240407    
    In response to Ted

Lucky for us that he became a Tiger! He was in my Spanish class.

Edited by Tiger69 on 12-17-17 04:00 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
tguru 
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For the history majors.
12-17-17 05:25 PM - Post#240412    
    In response to Ted

  • Ted Said:
tguru - Wayne & I were classmates at Central High School in Philadelphia. He was the star of the BB team, and received a full scholarship to Fairfield U. That is most likely how you ended up playing 1 on 1 against him in Bridgeport, which is right down the road from Fairfield. BTW - I hope you fared better against him than I would have.
A "CHS Intramural Champions - 1965" plaque still hangs on a wall in my house, thanks to Wayne, as CHS then let varsity players play Intramural sports.I keep the plaque up not out of any sense of achievement on my part, but solely because it reminds of my friendship with Wayne, who back then taught me as much about leadership as anyone.
Wayne was (still is, I'm sure) a terrific guy, who also opened my eyes to any pre-conceived notions I may have had back then about African Americans and race relations. Knowing Wayne as I did back then, he would probably be surprised to hear me say these things, because it all seemed to come so naturally to him.



Wayne interned where I worked in Bridgeport. We had a BBall court in our building. Thanks for the intel and reply. And yeah, he was a nice guy.

Edited by tguru on 12-17-17 05:28 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
tguru 
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12-17-17 05:37 PM - Post#240414    
    In response to section110

  • section110 Said:
I was there & the LaSalle defender (Lefty Ervin?) was within a foot or so of Murphy on almost every shot. It just didn't matter. Imagine what he & Pistol Pete would have averaged with a three point line.



Re. the coaches of Maravich and Murphy...imagine Calvin's totals if his MOTHER had been his coach at Niagra. Frank Layden was the only one who could keep him under "foety" a game.

 
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