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AsiaSunset 
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12-20-17 08:26 AM - Post#240720    

Some tweets from last night re Mater Dei which features Penn recruit Michael Wang and Harvard recruit Spence Freedman

Final Mater Dei comes back to down Mountain Brook 62-61 behind 6'10" Sr. Michael Wang (Penn) / 6'6" Sr. Harrison Butler w/14pts each 6'1" Sr. Spencer Friedman (Harvard) w/13pts & 6'6" Sr. Reagan Lundeen w/12pts in the win


Spencer Freedman 13 pts (5-9) made all key plays.

Michael Wang 14 pts (6-9) 3 Assists.

Reagan Lundeen 12 pts (5-7)

Harrison Butler 14 pts (3-3 from 3)

@MaterDeiHoops will play University tomorrow in quarterfinals at 2:30


Mountain Brook 61
Mater Dei 62
Final

📊Leading Scorers

Mater Dei(CA):
Michael Wang 14 pts
Spencer Freedman 13 pts
Reagan Lundeen 12 pts
Harrison Butler 14 pts

Mountain Brook(AL):
Trendon Watford 31 pts
Lior Berman 10 pts


FINAL:

Mater Dei 62, Mountain Brook 61

leaders

Harrison Butler 14
Michael Wang 14




Michael Wang hits fallaway jumper and the foul. HUGE.

Mater Dei up 61-56. 2:20 left.



2018 6’6” F Reagan Lundeen, 2018 6’10” Michael Wang and 2018 6’1” Spencer Freedman all of Mater Dei are playing hard out here. Tough players. CityOfPalmsBKB trigonis30 MaterDeiHoops



 
91Quake 
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12-20-17 01:40 PM - Post#240774    
    In response to AsiaSunset

From Eric Bossi at rivals.com:

Also ticketed to play in the Ivy League, at Penn, Wang is a skilled big man who can shoot and has gotten much tougher. It's easy to see him as a five man who spreads the floor and creates space for drivers and cutters with his shooting and passing.

Penn also had an assistant there.

 
weinhauers_ghost 
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12-20-17 02:19 PM - Post#240784    
    In response to 91Quake

I like the sound of "has gotten much tougher".

 
AsiaSunset 
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12-20-17 02:40 PM - Post#240790    
    In response to weinhauers_ghost

Mater Dei's 7'3" center transferred out so MW will need to play more in the post this year than in prior years.

 
yoyo 
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12-20-17 02:49 PM - Post#240793    
    In response to AsiaSunset

a 6'10 kid who can light it up from the outside. Sounds like Stevey D has found his Jeff Foote.

 
mrjames 
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12-20-17 03:00 PM - Post#240797    
    In response to yoyo

Ummmmm.... let's not go crazy, folks...

 
91Quake 
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12-20-17 03:21 PM - Post#240799    
    In response to mrjames

No one's going crazy. But he may be another nice piece.

Not sure the Jeff Foote comps are all that meaningful either.

 
Cvonvorys 
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12-20-17 04:43 PM - Post#240821    
    In response to yoyo

  • yoyo Said:
a 6'10 kid who can light it up from the outside. Sounds like Stevey D has found his Jeff Foote.



Or maybe Stevey D has found his Stevey D (i.e., Steve Danley)!

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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12-20-17 04:51 PM - Post#240825    
    In response to Cvonvorys

  • Cvonvorys Said:
  • yoyo Said:
a 6'10 kid who can light it up from the outside. Sounds like Stevey D has found his Jeff Foote.



Or maybe Stevey D has found his Stevey D (i.e., Steve Danley)!


Or his Jan Fikiel.

 
SteveDanley 
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12-20-17 05:38 PM - Post#240835    
    In response to Cvonvorys

  • Cvonvorys Said:
  • yoyo Said:
a 6'10 kid who can light it up from the outside. Sounds like Stevey D has found his Jeff Foote.



Or maybe Stevey D has found his Stevey D (i.e., Steve Danley)!



I'm sure he shoots it better than I did when I first got on campus. Coach Duke used to say "you could lock Steve alone in the gym with the ball, come back the next morning and he still wouldn't have scored."

Jan could shoot the ball though. There were definitely some times during both preseasons we shared that we thought he was going to break out. Never quite showed it all in games (though, he hit some big ones in that Princeton comeback). But there were days in practice when he was the best big on the court.

 
Quakers03 
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12-20-17 10:11 PM - Post#240865    
    In response to mrjames

  • mrjames Said:
Ummmmm.... let's not go crazy, folks...



Do you do this on other boards too, or only here?

 
Streamers 
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12-20-17 10:50 PM - Post#240869    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

  • T.P.F.K.A.D.W. Said:
  • Cvonvorys Said:
  • yoyo Said:
a 6'10 kid who can light it up from the outside. Sounds like Stevey D has found his Jeff Foote.



Or maybe Stevey D has found his Stevey D (i.e., Steve Danley)!


Or his Jan Fikiel.


Nicely played sir!

 
SomeGuy 
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12-21-17 01:05 AM - Post#240876    
    In response to 91Quake

Yes, I don't really get that. Foote didn't exactly light it up from outside.

 
tguru 
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12-21-17 04:30 AM - Post#240881    
    In response to SteveDanley

  • SteveDanley Said:
  • Cvonvorys Said:
  • yoyo Said:
a 6'10 kid who can light it up from the outside. Sounds like Stevey D has found his Jeff Foote.



Or maybe Stevey D has found his Stevey D (i.e., Steve Danley)!



I'm sure he shoots it better than I did when I first got on campus. Coach Duke used to say "you could lock Steve alone in the gym with the ball, come back the next morning and he still wouldn't have scored."

Jan could shoot the ball though. There were definitely some times during both preseasons we shared that we thought he was going to break out. Never quite showed it all in games (though, he hit some big ones in that Princeton comeback). But there were days in practice when he was the best big on the court.



Sounds like the Dave I knew.

 
91Quake 
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12-21-17 05:58 AM - Post#240882    
    In response to tguru

More from Rivals on Wednesday games:
And Freedman is the Rivals150 senior referred to below.



Alongside the Rivals150 senior is Michael Wang
, a multi-dimensional power forward that can shoot, dribble and rebound. A polished half-court weapon that didn’t miss a shot during his team’s 44-point first half outburst, Wang should thrive within the Ivy League. Imagining the Mater Dei product alongside all-league member AJ Brodeur
should only bolster the Penn’s chances of moving up within the conference’s pecking order under Steve Donahue’s watch.

 
AsiaSunset 
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Re: City of Palms
12-21-17 06:50 AM - Post#240883    
    In response to 91Quake

13-15 from the floor and 28 points in Mater Dei's double OT loss. !3-15 included 3-5 from the 3 point line.

"Michael Wang, PF, Mater Dei – Headed to Penn next year, Wang looks like a potential impact player in the Ivy League. He was an extremely efficient 12-15 from the floor and finished with 28 points and four assists. Wang has a good shooting stroke and is getting better attacking with the dribble. With his ability to stretch the floor he should be a tough matchup for most Ivy League bigs.



 
Charlie Fog 
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12-21-17 07:12 AM - Post#240884    
    In response to Quakers03

in fairness, his board is looking a little barren these days.

 
mrjames 
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12-21-17 08:57 AM - Post#240887    
    In response to Quakers03

I try to provide context everywhere I can.

From a prioritization perspective, the prizes in the Ivy this year were Jaelin, Freedman and Noah. A full step beyond that would be guys like Taurus Samuels and Mason Forbes. Then, there are a bunch that are all - depends on who you talk to, mostly positive to mostly negative, but all guys that are expected to have an impact in the rotation at some point in their Ivy careers. Wang is somewhere in that group.

 
TheLine 
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12-21-17 10:10 AM - Post#240895    
    In response to mrjames

While there may be better 'prizes' in this recruiting class, Wang fits Penn's system and fills an immediate need. So there's that.


 
PennFan10 
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12-21-17 10:44 AM - Post#240898    
    In response to mrjames

  • mrjames Said:
I try to provide context everywhere I can.

From a prioritization perspective, the prizes in the Ivy this year were Jaelin, Freedman and Noah. A full step beyond that would be guys like Taurus Samuels and Mason Forbes. Then, there are a bunch that are all - depends on who you talk to, mostly positive to mostly negative, but all guys that are expected to have an impact in the rotation at some point in their Ivy careers. Wang is somewhere in that group.



Thanks Mr J. I would ask where in your grouping was Ryan Betley? I am pretty sure there is a long list of IL recruits in his class that were considered to have an impact in the league long before he would have had and right now he has to be considered in a pretty exclusive group in a very strong class. I realize this is just one example and I don't put a lot of value in my own cherry picking I do recognize the value of a recruit that fits into a program and coaches that recognize that fit early.

I think Mike Wang was a pretty high priority for the Penn Coaches from the beginning and they are quite pleased with his commitment. I don't know if he will be a star in year 1 but to say he was anything other than a top target for Penn would be inaccurate.


 
TheLine 
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Michael Wang
12-21-17 10:48 AM - Post#240899    
    In response to PennFan10

To put in perspective - of the players getting major minutes this year for Penn, Brodeur is probably the only one who was a more regarded recruit than Wang.

That's not to say I won't be thrilled when Donahue starts landing more highly regarded recruits.


 
mrjames 
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12-21-17 02:59 PM - Post#240977    
    In response to TheLine

That's right. If I were to put this into perspective, you should be about as excited about Michael Wang as you are about, say, Jarrod Simmons.

This feels a lot like the Jaron Faulds argument from last year. Saying someone isn't likely to be an instant star (what I think of when I think of a true "4 or 5-star" recruit) doesn't mean they're garbage. There's a ton of room in between. And as others have said - there are fit issues as well, certain pieces are better used by some teams in their offensive schemes (and hidden by their defensive schemes) than others.

But right now, this is looking like a lost class for Penn, which puts a LOT of pressure on 2019.

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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12-21-17 03:41 PM - Post#240978    
    In response to mrjames

  • mrjames Said:

But right now, this is looking like a lost class for Penn, which puts a LOT of pressure on 2019.


Speaking of which, are you (or anyone, for that matter) aware of anything cooking out there, or is it way too early?

 
Penndemonium 
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12-21-17 04:43 PM - Post#240980    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

  • T.P.F.K.A.D.W. Said:
  • mrjames Said:

But right now, this is looking like a lost class for Penn, which puts a LOT of pressure on 2019.


Speaking of which, are you (or anyone, for that matter) aware of anything cooking out there, or is it way too early?



mrjames, earlier in the season you said that there were still a lot of unsigned Ivy candidates and that we should be patient. It sounds like you think that these candidates won't be coming to Penn? Disappointing recruiting year if so. I agree with your point. A class of 1 player isn't a good one unless that player is a sure thing. There is too much variability in the second tier of good recruits ultimately having an impact.

 
Mike Porter 
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12-22-17 03:36 AM - Post#241006    
    In response to Penndemonium

Saw a few clips of Wang on Twitter from the Palms tournament (one of biggest high school tournaments annually with very high level competition), and was surprised to see some nice post moves. 6'10" and he can hit threes and throw in some post moves against good competition - sounds good to me. Seems like his biggest challenge will be defending, but time will tell and either way looking forward to seeing him in Penn uni. For what it's worth it seems like he is stepping up senior season now that Bol Bol left.

 
Old Bear 
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12-22-17 09:33 PM - Post#241088    
    In response to Mike Porter

I feel I must apologize for this post, even before I make it, but I can't help myself.

Penn has always wanted to have the biggest Wang in the IVL and now it looks like they will.

 
Silver Maple 
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12-22-17 09:35 PM - Post#241089    
    In response to Old Bear

Shame on you.

And on Erev Festivus, at that.

 
Old Bear 
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Michael Wang
12-22-17 09:44 PM - Post#241091    
    In response to Silver Maple

My pole is up, and I have grievances to celebrate.

Edited by Old Bear on 12-22-17 09:47 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Mike Porter 
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Michael Wang
12-23-17 03:26 AM - Post#241108    
    In response to Old Bear

I LOVE Big Wangs, really do... a sports bar here in LA with a good happy hour.

 
Mike Porter 
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Michael Wang
12-30-17 03:23 AM - Post#241608    
    In response to Mike Porter

Wang has led Mater Dei to the finals of a big high school tournament, the LS Invitational in Oregon. They will play #2 Oak Hill tomorrow night for the championship.

Spencer Freedman (and 2 other kids) missed yesterday's game so Wang had to take an even bigger burden and seemingly did very well. He scored 30 points on 11-22 shooting, 1-3 on 3s, 7-9 FTs, 7 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals and 0 turnovers. He scored 30 of his teams 71 points in the win to get MD to semi-finals today.

Today he scored 24 points and grabbed 18 rebounds in MDs win over #22 Jefferson from Oregon in a 54-49 win.



 
Jeff2sf 
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12-30-17 10:53 AM - Post#241611    
    In response to Mike Porter

generally speaking, i'm encouragaed

 
Mike Porter 
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12-30-17 02:59 PM - Post#241618    
    In response to Jeff2sf

Yes, same here as he seems to be having a good senior year. At this point I am most encouraged that he is scoring in a lot of ways besides just 3 pointers.

 
Penndemonium 
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12-30-17 03:11 PM - Post#241620    
    In response to Mike Porter

It seems like he would be the perfect complement to last year's Brodeur. A forward who spaces well, has height, and can shoot. I'm not sure if it's as good of a complement for what Donahue is asking Brodeur to do this year.

 
Silver Maple 
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12-30-17 07:51 PM - Post#241644    
    In response to Penndemonium

If Mr. Wang is as good as we hope, I’m confident Mr. Donahue will figure out how to use him in combination w. Mr. Brodeur.

 
Stuart Suss 
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01-03-18 06:32 PM - Post#241918    
    In response to Silver Maple

This site offers California high school basketball games. Here is where you can find archived games, which you can filter by selecting "Sport" "California" and "Basketball" from the drop-down menus.

And at this location you can enter Mater Dei High School of Santa Ana and purchase a subscription to upcoming games. Mater Dei's schedule can be found here if you select 2017-18 for "year," "Basketball, Boys" for Sport, and "Varsity" for Level.

If anybody watches a live game or finds a link to an archived game, please let us know about Michael Wang.



 
Stuart Suss 
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01-05-18 01:24 PM - Post#242136    
    In response to Stuart Suss

Orange County register reports Michael Wang turned an ankle during the second half of the January 4 game and was on crutches afterwards.

 
91Quake 
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01-20-18 12:08 AM - Post#244094    
    In response to Stuart Suss

Better news: Wang played earlier this week and went for 20 and 9 in a Mater Dei win. He is also playing tonight and they are up big at the half.

 
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