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mrjames 
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12-22-17 02:57 PM - Post#241043    

Here are the average game scores by month for each Ivy team. As per usual, Harvard and Princeton decided to start playing real basketball in December after treating November like a throwaway:

Year MthYr Ivy mean
2018 2017/12 pennsylvania 71.36667
2018 2017/12 harvard 67.53333
2018 2017/12 princeton 60.02000
2018 2017/11 yale 54.78750
2018 2017/11 pennsylvania 53.23750
2018 2017/11 columbia 52.10000
2018 2017/12 yale 48.40000
2018 2017/12 brown 45.70000
2018 2017/11 princeton 43.85000
2018 2017/11 brown 36.03333
2018 2017/11 harvard 35.10000
2018 2017/11 cornell 34.38333
2018 2017/12 dartmouth 32.46000
2018 2017/12 cornell 30.53333
2018 2017/12 columbia 26.88000
2018 2017/11 dartmouth 20.23333

Here are the top wins, sorted by the Game Score you get for beating the opponent by 1 (i.e., irrespective of margin). As you can see, Princeton's win is the best, but the Top 9 wins are comprised of two each for HYPP and one Cornell win.

Year Date Venue Opp PA Ivy PF WL GS GSNoMOV
1494 2018 2017-12-19 A Southern California 93 princeton 103 W 95.7 88.3
617 2018 2017-12-09 A Dayton 70 pennsylvania 78 W 88.9 71.5
1070 2018 2017-11-25 A Monmouth 96 pennsylvania 101 W 77.5 66.6
1459 2018 2017-11-24 N Saint Joseph's 71 harvard 77 W 78.7 61.3
944 2018 2017-12-06 A Lehigh 77 yale 86 W 79.8 54.8
643 2018 2017-11-27 A Duquesne 71 cornell 78 W 76.0 53.9
626 2018 2017-11-27 A Delaware 66 yale 76 W 83.5 53.1
692 2018 2017-12-06 A Fordham 45 harvard 47 W 64.0 52.6
252 2018 2017-12-16 A Cal Poly 60 princeton 80 W 93.3 39.4
931 2018 2017-12-06 A Lafayette 68 pennsylvania 73 W 57.8 39.0
671 2018 2017-11-26 A Fairleigh Dickinson 76 princeton 83 W 62.0 38.8
1028 2018 2017-11-12 H Massachusetts 67 harvard 70 W 49.6 38.4
1392 2018 2017-11-13 A Quinnipiac 72 brown 79 W 61.2 36.9
1069 2018 2017-12-12 H Monmouth 58 princeton 69 W 77.9 36.7
1132 2018 2017-11-20 N Northern Illinois 80 pennsylvania 93 W 72.9 35.6
1557 2018 2017-11-24 H Toledo 77 cornell 80 W 43.0 33.7
1565 2018 2017-11-22 N UMKC 65 pennsylvania 68 W 41.2 30.3
1079 2018 2017-11-15 H Navy 45 pennsylvania 66 W 95.6 29.5
72 2018 2017-11-13 H Binghamton 84 cornell 94 W 57.2 29.4
862 2018 2017-12-04 A Howard 68 pennsylvania 81 W 67.4 24.4
23 2018 2017-11-22 A Alcorn State 73 yale 87 W 65.0 22.1
222 2018 2017-11-26 A Bryant 67 brown 81 W 68.0 21.8
994 2018 2017-12-08 A Maine 66 dartmouth 73 W 43.9 21.1
93 2018 2017-12-21 H Boston University 63 harvard 74 W 57.3 20.4
1038 2018 2017-12-09 H Massachusetts-Lowell 75 brown 89 W 56.2 18.0
932 2018 2017-12-20 H Lafayette 71 cornell 80 W 39.9 16.2
933 2018 2017-11-22 H Lafayette 46 princeton 60 W 74.3 15.8
975 2018 2017-11-28 H Loyola (MD) 63 dartmouth 64 W 17.8 15.5
968 2018 2017-12-16 A Longwood 62 cornell 69 W 34.7 14.5
969 2018 2017-11-14 A Longwood 77 columbia 87 W 37.5 14.1
956 2018 2017-11-25 H Long Island University 86 brown 94 W 28.7 13.8
221 2018 2017-11-29 H Bryant 67 yale 84 W 47.6 8.0
1490 2018 2017-11-14 H South Carolina State 54 yale 86 W 87.9 5.6
1058 2018 2017-11-10 H MIT 64 harvard 73 W NA NA
889 2018 2017-11-11 H Johnson & Wales (RI) 78 brown 106 W NA NA
654 2018 2017-11-14 H Emerson 43 dartmouth 78 W NA NA
1149 2018 2017-11-18 H Penn St. - Brandywine 40 pennsylvania 99 W NA NA
511 2018 2017-11-19 H Curry 42 yale 107 W NA NA

Finally here are all of the games with Game Scores for this year... what's most interesting is that where the league is struggling this year is not so much in strong performances against very, very good teams, it's in holding serve for Ws against some mediocre to terrible teams:

GSRank Year Date Venue Opp PA Ivy PF WL GS GSNoMOV
1494 61 2018 2017-12-19 A Southern California 93 princeton 103 W 95.7 88.3
1079 63 2018 2017-11-15 H Navy 45 pennsylvania 66 W 95.6 29.5
252 94 2018 2017-12-16 A Cal Poly 60 princeton 80 W 93.3 39.4
617 177 2018 2017-12-09 A Dayton 70 pennsylvania 78 W 88.9 71.5
1490 188 2018 2017-11-14 H South Carolina State 54 yale 86 W 87.9 5.6
626 252 2018 2017-11-27 A Delaware 66 yale 76 W 83.5 53.1
900 288 2018 2017-12-02 A Kentucky 79 harvard 70 L 81.3 NA
944 307 2018 2017-12-06 A Lehigh 77 yale 86 W 79.8 54.8
1607 318 2018 2017-11-10 A Villanova 75 columbia 60 L 79.3 NA
1459 330 2018 2017-11-24 N Saint Joseph's 71 harvard 77 W 78.7 61.3
1141 334 2018 2017-12-19 A Notre Dame 97 dartmouth 87 L 78.1 NA
1069 338 2018 2017-12-12 H Monmouth 58 princeton 69 W 77.9 36.7
1070 345 2018 2017-11-25 A Monmouth 96 pennsylvania 101 W 77.5 66.6
643 372 2018 2017-11-27 A Duquesne 71 cornell 78 W 76.0 53.9
933 401 2018 2017-11-22 H Lafayette 46 princeton 60 W 74.3 15.8
1381 403 2018 2017-12-06 A Providence 77 brown 72 L 74.2 NA
1132 421 2018 2017-11-20 N Northern Illinois 80 pennsylvania 93 W 72.9 35.6
222 480 2018 2017-11-26 A Bryant 67 brown 81 W 68.0 21.8
862 494 2018 2017-12-04 A Howard 68 pennsylvania 81 W 67.4 24.4
250 499 2018 2017-11-12 A Butler 85 princeton 75 L 67.2 NA
411 516 2018 2017-11-29 A Connecticut 77 columbia 73 L 65.6 NA
23 528 2018 2017-11-22 A Alcorn State 73 yale 87 W 65.0 22.1
1503 544 2018 2017-12-09 A St. Bonaventure 75 yale 67 L 64.2 NA
692 549 2018 2017-12-06 A Fordham 45 harvard 47 W 64.0 52.6
20 552 2018 2017-12-02 A Albany (NY) 86 columbia 82 L 63.7 NA
671 580 2018 2017-11-26 A Fairleigh Dickinson 76 princeton 83 W 62.0 38.8
1392 594 2018 2017-11-13 A Quinnipiac 72 brown 79 W 61.2 36.9
510 632 2018 2017-11-10 A Creighton 92 yale 76 L 58.3 NA
931 646 2018 2017-12-06 A Lafayette 68 pennsylvania 73 W 57.8 39.0
93 655 2018 2017-12-21 H Boston University 63 harvard 74 W 57.3 20.4
72 657 2018 2017-11-13 H Binghamton 84 cornell 94 W 57.2 29.4
1156 662 2018 2017-11-17 A Penn State 79 columbia 65 L 56.8 NA
1038 669 2018 2017-12-09 H Massachusetts-Lowell 75 brown 89 W 56.2 18.0
19 751 2018 2017-11-17 A Albany (NY) 80 yale 72 L 49.7 NA
1028 753 2018 2017-11-12 H Massachusetts 67 harvard 70 W 49.6 38.4
221 787 2018 2017-11-29 H Bryant 67 yale 84 W 47.6 8.0
994 853 2018 2017-12-08 A Maine 66 dartmouth 73 W 43.9 21.1
1608 855 2018 2017-11-29 A Villanova 90 pennsylvania 62 L 43.7 NA
1557 867 2018 2017-11-24 H Toledo 77 cornell 80 W 43.0 33.7
1003 882 2018 2017-11-18 A Manhattan 73 harvard 69 L 41.4 NA
1565 884 2018 2017-11-22 N UMKC 65 pennsylvania 68 W 41.2 30.3
932 904 2018 2017-12-20 H Lafayette 71 cornell 80 W 39.9 16.2
301 933 2018 2017-11-25 A Colgate 77 columbia 71 L 37.9 NA
969 939 2018 2017-11-14 A Longwood 77 columbia 87 W 37.5 14.1
1559 948 2018 2017-11-21 N Towson 79 pennsylvania 71 L 36.9 NA
1598 949 2018 2017-11-25 H Vermont 79 yale 73 L 36.9 NA
52 971 2018 2017-11-21 A Army 88 columbia 78 L 35.5 NA
968 985 2018 2017-12-16 A Longwood 62 cornell 69 W 34.7 14.5
1393 991 2018 2017-11-11 A Quinnipiac 78 dartmouth 77 L 34.4 NA
83 1034 2018 2017-12-12 A Boston College 81 columbia 66 L 32.1 NA
664 1076 2018 2017-11-11 A Fairfield 80 pennsylvania 72 L 29.4 NA
909 1090 2018 2017-11-13 H La Salle 75 pennsylvania 71 L 28.7 NA
956 1091 2018 2017-11-25 H Long Island University 86 brown 94 W 28.7 13.8
1556 1101 2018 2017-12-02 A Texas Christian 92 yale 66 L 27.7 NA
1460 1132 2018 2017-11-18 A Saint Joseph's 71 princeton 58 L 25.7 NA
851 1154 2018 2017-11-16 A Holy Cross 73 harvard 69 L 24.4 NA
96 1172 2018 2017-11-15 H Brigham Young 65 princeton 56 L 23.5 NA
707 1173 2018 2017-12-06 A George Washington 71 princeton 60 L 23.5 NA
873 1198 2018 2017-12-12 A Iona 83 yale 67 L 21.9 NA
300 1206 2018 2017-11-16 A Colgate 72 cornell 61 L 21.5 NA
1511 1221 2018 2017-11-19 A St. Francis (NY) 77 brown 74 L 21.1 NA
1464 1256 2018 2017-11-23 H Saint Mary's (CA) 89 harvard 71 L 19.4 NA
1405 1264 2018 2017-11-28 A Rhode Island 86 brown 62 L 18.8 NA
1533 1271 2018 2017-11-22 A Stony Brook 77 brown 64 L 18.4 NA
1128 1282 2018 2017-11-30 A Northeastern 77 harvard 61 L 17.9 NA
975 1283 2018 2017-11-28 H Loyola (MD) 63 dartmouth 64 W 17.8 15.5
1129 1296 2018 2017-12-02 A Northeastern 84 cornell 66 L 17.0 NA
1078 1297 2018 2017-12-10 H Navy 73 columbia 68 L 17.0 NA
1441 1300 2018 2017-12-05 A Sacred Heart 79 dartmouth 73 L 16.8 NA
255 1346 2018 2017-11-26 A Cal State Fullerton 70 harvard 61 L 14.3 NA
260 1347 2018 2017-12-02 A Canisius 73 dartmouth 60 L 14.3 NA
1391 1377 2018 2017-12-04 H Quinnipiac 89 columbia 87 L 12.9 NA
943 1440 2018 2017-11-29 H Lehigh 85 princeton 76 L 10.4 NA
1047 1449 2018 2017-12-02 N Miami (FL) 80 princeton 52 L 9.7 NA
1632 1462 2018 2017-11-12 A Wisconsin 89 yale 61 L 9.4 NA
870 1469 2018 2017-12-15 A Illinois-Chicago 76 dartmouth 60 L 9.2 NA
1534 1486 2018 2017-12-07 H Stony Brook 76 columbia 66 L 8.7 NA
18 1493 2018 2017-11-22 H Albany (NY) 91 dartmouth 73 L 8.5 NA
274 1531 2018 2017-12-02 H Central Connecticut State 68 brown 62 L 6.7 NA
1037 1553 2018 2017-11-19 A Massachusetts-Lowell 98 cornell 78 L 5.8 NA
1542 1621 2018 2017-11-10 A Syracuse 77 cornell 45 L 2.8 NA
1058 1735 2018 2017-11-10 H MIT 64 harvard 73 W NA NA
889 1736 2018 2017-11-11 H Johnson & Wales (RI) 78 brown 106 W NA NA
654 1737 2018 2017-11-14 H Emerson 43 dartmouth 78 W NA NA
1149 1738 2018 2017-11-18 H Penn St. - Brandywine 40 pennsylvania 99 W NA NA
511 1739 2018 2017-11-19 H Curry 42 yale 107 W NA NA

 
penn nation 
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Re: Game Score Stats Thus Far
12-22-17 03:20 PM - Post#241044    
    In response to mrjames

Penn's Monmouth win and Princeton's USC win should probably get an asterisk given that Monmouth was missing its best player and USC was missing....well, a whole bunch of regulars.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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12-26-17 02:46 PM - Post#241322    
    In response to penn nation

Columbia currently has the 11th worst record in Division 1 CBB, but is justifiably ranked higher - 225th in KenPom, 5th in Ivy League. Of the 10 squads with worse records, only Texas Southern (0-13) is ranked higher at KP 211. The other 9 squads are ranked at KP#336 or lower.

Texas Southern remains the favorite to win the Southern Conference!

Beware of the Lions!

 
Tiger69 
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Re: Game Score Stats Thus Far
12-26-17 04:54 PM - Post#241327    
    In response to penn nation

I suspect that almost any Ivy would get a boost from even the last five subs at the end of the USC bench.

 
penn nation 
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Re: Game Score Stats Thus Far
12-26-17 06:28 PM - Post#241331    
    In response to Tiger69

Not disputing that, but the guys on the floor did not constitute a Top 35 KenPom or whatever it was team out there.

I mean heck, Boatwright alone scored 33 out of the team's 77 points last night in defeating a very good Aggie team that had just upset Miami.

Edited by penn nation on 12-26-17 06:32 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Tiger69 
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Re: Game Score Stats Thus Far
12-26-17 06:52 PM - Post#241334    
    In response to penn nation

Eat your heart out


 
penn nation 
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Re: Game Score Stats Thus Far
12-26-17 07:02 PM - Post#241336    
    In response to Tiger69

Hey, not my fault that USC has a Boatwright of talent.

 
Tiger69 
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Re: Game Score Stats Thus Far
12-26-17 10:32 PM - Post#241350    
    In response to penn nation

How about I concede that USC might Have won with Boatwright and you concede that Princeton beat Penn this fall in football because a replay clearly disclosed that Princeton scored a legitimate touchdown on its final series that was erroneously called back by an official who mistakenly ruled that the receiver stepped out of bounds before catching a touchdown pass. Otherwise no more shoulda coulda woulda. What's so important to you about this, anyway? Did your smart and evil brother in law go to Princeton?

 
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12-27-17 02:39 AM - Post#241353    
    In response to Tiger69

Actually, USC beat Akron without Boatwright doing anything at all--he was ejected. The other guys also missing against PU made it more serious for them.

But I've now seen USC play a bunch of times, and up until this tournament they were not consistent game to game. SMU battered them with a full complement. (The only thing that they are amazingly consistent about, starting last season, is coming back from deficits.) And they had no talent shortage against the Tigers, what with McLaughlin, Stewart, Metu, and the big Euro guy plus a fleet of high-level recruits coming off the bench.

 
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Re: Game Score Stats Thus Far
12-27-17 08:24 AM - Post#241359    
    In response to penn nation

Valid point that Boatwright is a very good player and would have presented match up problems for the Tigers.

Another valid point is that Penn scheduled a much tougher game than Kenpom's #351 Mississippi State (0-13) and instead decided to challenge themselves with #349 Delaware State as they wanted to push the envelope but you are probably correct that USC was not a top #35 team in the OT loss to the Tigers.

 
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Re: Game Score Stats Thus Far
12-27-17 09:25 AM - Post#241362    
    In response to Tiger69

No. He landed on his shoulders which were out of the end zone and his knees were not down.

 
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Re: Game Score Stats Thus Far
01-01-18 08:56 PM - Post#241715    
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  • Tiger69 Said:
How about I concede that USC might Have won with Boatwright and you concede that Princeton beat Penn this fall in football because a replay clearly disclosed that Princeton scored a legitimate touchdown on its final series that was erroneously called back by an official who mistakenly ruled that the receiver stepped out of bounds before catching a touchdown pass.


I was literally watching this in slow mo yesterday when cleaning the DVR and not one replay showed a clear reception. Did you have a different replay not shown on tv? Something from behind the goalposts? Did the official claim after the game that he ruled that he stepped out? I didn't see a beanbag thrown.

  • bradley Said:
Another valid point is that Penn scheduled a much tougher game than Kenpom's #351 Mississippi State (0-13) and instead decided to challenge themselves with #349 Delaware State as they wanted to push the envelope but you are probably correct that USC was not a top #35 team in the OT loss to the Tigers.


The criticism about this game continues to make me laugh when Princeton does what they do each year. If you're going to take a shot, at least get it right. The team is Mississippi Valley St.

 
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01-17-18 11:23 AM - Post#243788    
    In response to Quakers03

CollegeInsider.com has mid-major basketball polls (M&W).

No Ivy is in the top 25, and only Penn picks up votes at what would be #38. Strange that Princeton has been excluded. Also note that Wofford (#13) and Vermont (#16) are firmly in the list. Bodes well for Harvard.

Many other Ivy opponents appear as well.

 
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01-17-18 11:51 AM - Post#243792    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Winning some games would bode well for Harvard

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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01-17-18 03:05 PM - Post#243815    
    In response to palestra38

Close works in horseshoes and Kenpom!

 
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01-17-18 03:06 PM - Post#243816    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Tiddlywinks and bottle caps too


 
Silver Maple 
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01-17-18 04:15 PM - Post#243842    
    In response to palestra38

Anything going on in Ivy tiddlywinks these days?

 
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01-17-18 04:19 PM - Post#243846    
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I think they call it "e-sports" these days

 
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01-17-18 08:00 PM - Post#243860    
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Is there a Tiddlywinks League Tourney at the Cathedral?

 
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