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Username Post: Pennsylvania        (Topic#20921)
palestra38 
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Re: Pennsylvania
01-07-18 08:08 AM - Post#242544    
    In response to bradley

The dynamic of an older crowd that is laid back in comparison with the glory days of the rivalry is identical at Jadwin as the Palestra. It only makes a small difference that the students are on break--the number of students at both schools regularly attending basketball games is tiny now. The student bodies are completely different from those 20 years ago or earlier. I do not believe that is likely to change.

 
Quakers03 
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Re: Pennsylvania
01-07-18 09:05 AM - Post#242546    
    In response to bradley

I find it pretty funny when a fan of any school in this league takes shots at Penn attendance. Especially when it comes from Princeton and their stupid schedule is the reason we had 0 students. I guess you don't watch much other Ivy basketball? While it will never match what it once was, the students would have turned out for this one, much like they did for the first game of the year.

As for these awful conditions to which you keep referring, I just didn't see it. Yes there were mop up issues but where was all this skating? Was there even one travel called because of it? I don't doubt the outside cold and inside heat had some effect, and I've seen wet Palestra floors before, I just didn't see all the skating to which you keep referring.

 
palestra38 
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Re: Pennsylvania
01-07-18 09:33 AM - Post#242549    
    In response to Quakers03

Same here---the mopping was a result of players of both teams going to the floor. It's a legitimate criticism that you cannot have 6 year olds with mopping duty, but it really wasn't an issue in the game.

 
PennFan10 
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01-07-18 09:59 AM - Post#242551    
    In response to palestra38

The 6 year olds are the only ones who could make it in for the game. They had 10 year olds scheduled for Friday.

 
Tiger69 
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01-07-18 10:11 AM - Post#242554    
    In response to Charlie Fog

Excellent win by Penn who showed the talent and adaptability to compete for the real prize. Let's put the Tournament out of its misery.

 
palestra38 
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01-07-18 10:15 AM - Post#242556    
    In response to Tiger69

We all know that is not going to happen. But it is good to hear a Princeton fan admire play by a Penn team--it's been a while. Donahue truly values ball movement and Penn's bigs repeatedly passed to cutters out of a double--something you would think Princeton would be doing.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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01-07-18 10:41 AM - Post#242561    
    In response to palestra38

Well played game. Just watched the replay as I was in the air yesterday and the Southwest internet could not stream it.

Penn showed what I expected after watching the Dayton game: excellent team play on offense and defense.

After we clamped down on Be(n)tley (just so we all know who we are talking about) in the second half, it became a 4 on 4 contest with less help available by Princeton. This opened the floor for driving and interior moves by the Penn bigs.

Derosier and Gladson are a step slow on defense, and Cannady is a half step slow. Much is undersized for interior D. Aririguzoh remains intriguing. That broad base of his in defense allows him to slide, but not much of a leap is possible when his man goes up.

Bell played great on defense and just shy of great on offense. The downside of his sliding, reaching move to the hoop is that he cannot dish if help comes. He's a senior now; not much hope he can significantly modify his game. I would like to see him drive more and dish.

Cannady is scary when he drives--sometimes a great finish, and sometimes a bad turnover.

At the 2:08 mark, with Bell lying on the floor in pain, Foreman steps over him like he's not worth walking around.

 
PennFan10 
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01-07-18 11:00 AM - Post#242566    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

I saw that Darnell step over. And I also saw Cannaday bump AJ on his lower back, after he returned from injuring it, while walking through the Penn huddle back to his bench. The little tricks we play!

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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01-07-18 11:02 AM - Post#242568    
    In response to PennFan10

Missed that! What time?

 
PennFan10 
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01-07-18 11:28 AM - Post#242583    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

First timeout after AJ returned.

 
PennFan10 
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01-07-18 11:28 AM - Post#242584    
    In response to PennFan10

Mid to late second half

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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01-07-18 12:01 PM - Post#242589    
    In response to PennFan10

Kind of a Noah Savage move?

 
bradley 
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01-07-18 12:12 PM - Post#242592    
    In response to Tiger69

Think of the irony if Penn wins a brutally difficult IL regular season crown this year or next on the last weekend. They then lose on a late bad call by a referee at the Palestra or next year at Jadwin, Mohegan Sun or somewhere else at the IL Tournament. Let's hope everyone stays consistent as to the merits of the IL Tournament.

 
penn nation 
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01-07-18 12:14 PM - Post#242593    
    In response to bradley

If Penn goes to the NIT, or for that matter any other post-season tourney this year, no-one on the Penn board will be complaining.

 
palestra38 
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01-07-18 12:16 PM - Post#242594    
    In response to bradley

I thought Princeton guys know the meaning of irony. The majority of Penn posters were not in favor of a tournament, nor were they responsible for the selection of the Palestra as the site for such a tournament. So the suggestion that a Penn loss in the tournment would be a "hoisted on their own petard" kind of irony is misplaced.

 
Silver Maple 
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01-07-18 12:24 PM - Post#242595    
    In response to bradley

  • bradley Said:
Let's hope everyone stays consistent as to the merits of the IL Tournament.



Refresh my memory, please. What are these 'merits' of which you speak?

 
SomeGuy 
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01-07-18 08:36 PM - Post#242623    
    In response to Silver Maple

Yes, seems to me that outside of maybe me and Jeff, the Penn fans all hate it. And I think even those of us who favor it do so in kind of a "everyone else is doing it, so I guess we should get with the program" kind of a way. And I frankly didn't think it would be at the Palestra, and never would have suggested it be there.

All that said, I like it at the Palestra simply because I love the venue and it is unlikely I could personally travel to any other league spot for the tournament. And I guess I'll take the advantage it provides if it is offered!

 
Jeff2sf 
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01-07-18 08:57 PM - Post#242626    
    In response to SomeGuy

i like the tournament. it's fun. it gives us a chance to win when we're not the best team, which we haven't been the last 11 years.

i think holding a 14 game tournament to be some mathematical certainty of who deserves what is flawed.

but whatevs. I also think you could optimize the tournament to make it more fair/more well attended but if they want to continue putting it 15 mins from my house, cool.

 
westphillywarrior 
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01-07-18 09:11 PM - Post#242628    
    In response to SomeGuy

"Yes, seems to me that outside of maybe me and Jeff, the Penn fans all hate it."

I was and am 100% against the tournament. But I think you're forgetting some of our other fans. PennFan10 for one. He was so in love with the tournament you got the feeling that he was being paid to promote it.

 
PennFan10 
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01-07-18 09:55 PM - Post#242629    
    In response to westphillywarrior

Easy there big fella. I do like the tournament and always have. I think the players love it also. I do think it will help with recruiting and eventually to overall play and stature of the league. I am not getting checks, but am glad to accept any that are sent my way.....

 
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