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10Q 
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01-07-18 11:29 AM - Post#242585    
    In response to Streamers

Is the game available on replay on ILDN?

 
AsiaSunset 
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01-07-18 11:36 AM - Post#242587    
    In response to 10Q

I think all ILDN games are

 
penn nation 
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01-07-18 12:06 PM - Post#242591    
    In response to PennFan10

Simmons also has excellent shooting form. Some of our guards could learn a thing or two from it.

 
SomeGuy 
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01-07-18 08:24 PM - Post#242617    
    In response to AsiaSunset

That is what I think went on strategically. I just think keeping Betley in motion makes more Princeton's choices more complicated. He may get in the way of other guys getting to the basket, and he may allow Bell to double or otherwise cause some havoc, but I'd still prefer to make Princeton make those choices, rather than coming to a gentleman's agreement that we're just going to play the 2nd half with our best scorer and their best defender standing together in the corner.

Of course, it worked (or at least worked well enough). Just not the choice I would have made. That's why I coach 8th graders and Steve coaches division 1 athletes.

 
palestra38 
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01-07-18 08:30 PM - Post#242619    
    In response to SomeGuy

I think the comment by Donahue that, "I’m a big analytics guy. Nobody on our team has more than a 22 percent usage rate at the end of a possession," is really the reason for what happened. If Princeton is going to put its best defensive player on Betley, then we'll move the ball around to different players.

For the first time since 2007, we have 5 starters who are legitimate 2 way basketball players. If they want to key on someone, the other guys will beat you. The only question is foul shots, and all we can do is hope that that will improve.

 
Silver Maple 
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01-07-18 08:34 PM - Post#242621    
    In response to palestra38

Has anybody else noticed that, in the last-- Oh, I don't know-- five games, the team seems to have figured out how to exploit double teams?

 
palestra38 
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01-07-18 08:47 PM - Post#242625    
    In response to Silver Maple

How long have we been crying for our big men to dish to open men (that being said, DNH is prospering in Europe--and still never dishes--- http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/Austria/UBSC... )

 
Silver Maple 
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01-07-18 09:00 PM - Post#242627    
    In response to palestra38

To be fair, it not just on the guy in the middle. You need other players to either get in the right spot on the perimeter at the right moment, or to correctly time a cut to the basket and be ready to receive a pass.

 
PennFan10 
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01-07-18 09:59 PM - Post#242630    
    In response to Silver Maple

I think this team is starting to get it. AJ and Max are both great passers. When they get it and others cut, good things happen. Darnell, Antonio, Jarrod and Betley all did that in the game and scored as a result.

 
jeromelh 
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01-08-18 09:04 AM - Post#242651    
    In response to PennFan10


Congratulations again to the Quakers.

Donahue was fully aware of Princeton's Achilles heel which is interior defense. Princeton has no interior defense and Penn exploited that especially in the second half. Last year we had Peter Miller who was a very good interior defender. This year we have no one and Mitch Henderson is going to have to solve that problem. Otherwise Penn is going to destroy Princeton on the interior next time. As much as I like Freshman Much, he is only 6'8" and is a below average defender. Yet he starts at Center.

 
Silver Maple 
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01-08-18 09:11 AM - Post#242653    
    In response to jeromelh

Much's problem isn't that he's only 6-8. Brodeur and Rothschild are both 6-8 as well. The problem is that Much simply isn't an interior player. He really seems like a wing. Brodeur and Rothschild are both inside bangers by mentality, and have the skills to go with that.

 
palestra38 
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01-08-18 09:12 AM - Post#242654    
    In response to jeromelh

Of course, they tried doubling down to help in the first half and the result was 19 points for Betley. With a zone/double destroyer like Betley, it does create matchup problems for Princeton.

Cannady is really good though.

 
jeromelh 
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01-08-18 10:17 AM - Post#242668    
    In response to Silver Maple

You are correct. Much is a wing not a center. That he started at center is evidence of the lack inside presence. He is going to be an elite player, but as a wing.

Princeton has had a problem with interior defense from day one. Gladson just came back from injury and played in his first game. Maybe they start Gladson at center with Much on the wing.

The tigers will continue to have a problem with interior defense

 
penn nation 
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02-05-18 09:57 PM - Post#246321    
    In response to penn nation

I wasn't that far off. If Pr loses, they will be in a 3 way tie for 3rd (so in a way, in 5th )

  • penn nation Said:
Tonight we knocked them into last place. In a month, maybe we can knock them into 5th?

  • dperry Said:
  • 10Q Said:
Let’s do this again real soon.



Exactly one month from now works for me.







 
10Q 
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02-06-18 07:23 AM - Post#246329    
    In response to penn nation

Hoping someone will post a link to the game. I don't get espnu.

 
palestra38 
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02-06-18 07:35 AM - Post#246330    
    In response to 10Q

It should also be available on ESPN3

 
TheLine 
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Princeton Game
02-06-18 07:39 AM - Post#246332    
    In response to jeromelh

Cannady played close to 90 minutes over the weekend. I'd try to run him into the ground.


 
palestra38 
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02-06-18 07:57 AM - Post#246333    
    In response to palestra38

Just go to ESPN3.com at 6 pm, go to "Live Now" and click to the Penn-Princeton game.

 
tguru 
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02-06-18 08:22 AM - Post#246334    
    In response to palestra38

  • palestra38 Said:
Just go to ESPN3.com at 6 pm, go to "Live Now" and click to the Penn-Princeton game.



Nope. It's listed as ESPNU. Don't think you'll get it there if U is not in your cable package.

 
10Q 
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02-06-18 08:30 AM - Post#246336    
    In response to tguru

I don't have cable at all. I'm hoping that Stu will post a subversive link.

 
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