Mike Porter
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01-08-18 02:38 AM - Post#242639
Sidebar, but anyone notice that Dunphy's Temple team that shot out of the gate and had a few big wins has completely tanked? They've lost their first 4 league games to fall to last place and really bottomed out today scoring 39 points in 21 point loss at UCF.
On Twitter and their message board, it looks like even the biggest Dunphy defenders have given up. Will be curious to see how the rest of their season pans out. It's been a while since we've beaten them, so wouldn't mind if they continue to struggle for a few weeks and then get themselves all sorted out after our game, haha.
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mbaprof
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Re: OT: End of Dunphy Era @Temple? 01-08-18 07:45 AM - Post#242643
In response to Mike Porter
Should be a great game at the Palestra on Jan 20th, Sat at 2pm! Bring the kids/grandkids etc
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10Q
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01-08-18 08:51 AM - Post#242645
In response to mbaprof
I wonder if Fran regrets leaving Penn.
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penn nation
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01-08-18 09:11 AM - Post#242646
In response to 10Q
I'm sure he has done much better financially.
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palestra38
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01-08-18 09:39 AM - Post#242649
In response to penn nation
I am sure that he does not regret it. He has had some very good years at Temple. And remember, the team he left had virtually no blue chip players below the seniors---he would have had to recruit an entirely new team as did Miller. He very likely saw it as a good time to move on---in addition, the AD was a big problem.
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SRP
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01-11-18 03:10 AM - Post#242955
In response to palestra38
Just saw that The Mensch's team just pulled a huge road upset against SMU. Maybe too soon to be writing his Owl epitaph. SMU had a home winning streak of 33 games and was going for their program record.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.philly.com/philly/s...
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Mike Porter
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01-13-18 06:01 PM - Post#243421
In response to SRP
Yeah... still feeling like the end. Just lost to Memphis at home (when they were like an 8-10 point favorite), a game they just had to win.
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91Quake
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01-17-18 08:50 PM - Post#243857
In response to Mike Porter
Temple just pulled one out against Tulsa after trailing for a long time. Good coaching job to use up all the fouls and leave Tulsa with 3.3 secs to run a play. The Temple fans should be careful what they wish for.
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SRP
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01-18-18 03:27 PM - Post#243909
In response to 91Quake
Considering that SMU just upset Wichita State on the road, and Memphis is looking a bit better, haste in firing Dunphy seems even less reasonable.
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Streamers
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01-18-18 04:41 PM - Post#243911
In response to SRP
Boy is it hard to gauge this Temple team. They got off to a great start beating some ranked teams, then went totally cold without any major injuries that I can see, and maybe righted themselves last night just in time to play us. They have good size and length in the backcourt, and most of their points/minutes (save for Rose) come from experienced upperclassmen who can shoot and make FTs. They will pose matchup issues for Penn.
Despite all that, this game is winnable and would be our best win as they look to be the best big 5 team not named Villanova - in fact, all four feel pretty close in quality to me at this stage ranging from KP 94 (Temple) to 130 St. Joe (just beat Dayton at home soundly) to 150 LaSalle to 151 Penn.
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Penndemonium
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01-19-18 02:37 AM - Post#243942
In response to Streamers
If by chance we win, does that put Dunphy back on the hot seat?
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10Q
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01-19-18 09:52 AM - Post#243952
In response to Penndemonium
Yes, it would.
So would you rather beat Temple and lose to Harvard or vice versa? In the old days, you'd take the Ivy win.
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palestra38
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01-19-18 09:57 AM - Post#243953
In response to 10Q
I think if Temple does not make the Tournament (looking unlikely unless they win the AAC tournament), Dunph will be asked to retire after this season.
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10Q
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01-19-18 10:11 AM - Post#243955
In response to palestra38
Agreed. Their has got to be a lot North Broad angst over Nova's success.
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Silver Maple
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01-19-18 10:49 AM - Post#243960
In response to 10Q
Yes, it would.
So would you rather beat Temple and lose to Harvard or vice versa? In the old days, you'd take the Ivy win.
I think I'd still take the Ivy win. Fortunately, it doesn't work that way.
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SteveChop
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01-19-18 02:30 PM - Post#244025
In response to 10Q
A silly choice. As I'm sure Dunph would agree, there's no "choice" - you win them both!
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10Q
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01-19-18 02:50 PM - Post#244027
In response to SteveChop
I like the cut of your jib.
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Penndemonium
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01-20-18 03:00 AM - Post#244096
In response to 10Q
I would love to beat Temple, but I would not love to see Dunph lose his job. He was clearly a good man and a good coach.
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Silver Maple
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01-20-18 08:21 AM - Post#244099
In response to Penndemonium
I sympathize with that sentiment. However, if the roles were reversed, I'm certain that Dunphy would give no quarter. And I seriously doubt he expects Donahue to do so.
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Penndemonium
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01-20-18 03:15 PM - Post#244129
In response to Silver Maple
I sympathize with that sentiment. However, if the roles were reversed, I'm certain that Dunphy would give no quarter. And I seriously doubt he expects Donahue to do so.
Of course. I would just be sad to see him lose his job. My sense is he did pretty well for them for many years. It a tricky job, as Temple has higher expectations than perhaps they should feel entitled to going forward.
I would have loved to see him build a juggernaut at Temple, but I don't think he's the type of person who would press all of the ethical buttons to make that happen a la Pitino and Calipari.
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