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cc66 
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01-25-18 12:48 PM - Post#244646    

http://www.gocolumbialions.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB...

Game notes are out; the same starting lineup will reassure those worried about the effects of Smith's concussion.

It's away; we aren't going to shoot 57% of 3s again; Cornell will make adjustments; and Morgan and/or Gettings could get hot. Nevertheless, after beating Cornell by 26, we shouldn't lose. Hence my prediction:

Columbia in a closer game, by 6.

 
rbg 
Masters Student
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Reg: 10-20-14
01-25-18 01:35 PM - Post#244651    
    In response to cc66

Kenpom has it as a 1 point Columbia victory.

Cornell is going to need to step it up on defense. In 3 league games, they are letting teams shoot 55% from two and 44% from three. While they will bring those numbers down, how low, ultimately, is the big question.

The offense was fine during non-conference, but it has taken a nosedive over the first two weeks of play. They are averaging 73.8 points for the season, but only 59 in the first 3 conference games.

There are only two double-digits scorers (Morgan at 16.3 and Gettings with 11.3). After that it is McBride at 6.0, Julian at 5.0, Warren with 4.7 and Davis at 4.7.

To win, I think Morgan and Gettings are going to, both, have to put up a lot of points. The team is also going to have to get to the free throw line a bunch (and make them). They are also going to have to force Columbia to play inside the arc. If they can't do that, then they have to hope that the Lions just have a bad afternoon from three.

Not impossible, especially if the Big Red put last Saturday's horrible game and long bus trip back to Ithaca behind them.

 
cc66 
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01-25-18 01:51 PM - Post#244652    
    In response to rbg

I know about the KenPom by 1, and I'd usually hold to their prediction. My hope is that last weekend, the team finally learned what it means to play hard for 40 minutes. Factoring this in against an away game and the probability of some Cornell improvement yields my perhaps too generous projection of a 6 point victory.

 
Chet Forte 
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01-27-18 06:59 PM - Post#244790    
    In response to cc66

Terrible game by Smith, who had a chance to win the game on several crunch time shots. Missed two big consecutive FTs and a three. Stefanini had a great second half. Nobody else showed up. Defense disappeared. This is going to be a very long season.


 
cc66 
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01-27-18 08:55 PM - Post#244837    
    In response to Chet Forte

It would be okay to be wrong by 5. Wrong by 7, and it's going to be a long season.

4th seems very unlikely.

 
Columbia 37P6 
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01-28-18 01:12 AM - Post#244935    
    In response to cc66

"4th seems very unlikely" as do 5th and even 6th.

3 and 14 record with ten Ivy League battles to go. Ouch!!!

We were leading by ten and then lost the lead quickly and then eventually lost the whole game. Been there, seen that many times this season.

Morgan with 29 points and Gettings with 25 points destroyed us -- Our small guards couldn't stop Morgan and our bigs were outplayed by Gettings,

On the positive side, Stefanini was amazing and surely earned a place in the starting line-up. Based upon what we witnessed today, it is obvious that the starting line-up for next weekend's games should be Meisner, Hanson, Castlin, Smith and Stefanini with Adlesh, Hickman and Tape et al coming off the bench. Stefanini and Hanson are very good players who add size, strength and skill to the line-up. However, we know by now that for whatever reason this coaching staff is unlikely to ever change the starting line-up.

 
cc66 
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01-28-18 08:54 AM - Post#244946    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

True. We could easily be headed for a 4-10 Il season, 6-21 overall.

Adlesh had one of his poorer games, but clearly Steffanini deserves more minutes. It is also noteworthy that Faulds has been benched after being so highly touted.

 
Chet Forte 
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01-28-18 09:11 AM - Post#244948    
    In response to cc66

Faulds and Bibbs were our two most highly touted first years. Both have disappeared. Stefanini and Hansen both deserve to play, but something is missing with the chemistry on this group. And Smith is in a slump right now. Hickman is Hickman. Tape isn’t developing. The only big doing much is Meisner. And we haven’t seen what I had expected from Castlin.


 
mrjames 
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01-28-18 09:47 AM - Post#244950    
    In response to Chet Forte

This is exactly why I made such a big deal about everyone touting Faulds so highly. Can’t latch onto a ridiculous rating, build a kid up off of it and then complain when he’s having a fine freshman season in the rotation but isn’t an immediate starter and big contributor.

 
Chet Forte 
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01-28-18 10:10 AM - Post#244955    
    In response to mrjames

Tough to have a fine freshman season when you never get off the bench.


 
Columbia Alum 
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01-28-18 10:25 AM - Post#244957    
    In response to Chet Forte

We should have won yesterday but threw in away with 5 minutes to go and fought really hard to lose by only 1 when it was too late. Cornell consistently stayed ahead in the last few minutes and we simply could not out think them to get the lead back. Smith also had a bad game.

On the plus side Harvard without Aiken and Yale without Mason are pretty bad this year. They were both lucky on 3ptFGs yesterday to beat brown and Dartmouth. Brown and Dartmouth are not significantly worse than us. So if we don't sleep on them and actually beat them away, we have a shot at top 4. If Mason and Aiken return soon and play like they did before we have no shot.

 
Columbia 37P6 
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01-28-18 10:32 AM - Post#244960    
    In response to mrjames

Respectfully, if he were "having a fine freshman season in the rotation", no one would be upset, but the problem is he didn't play last night and only played about a minute last week. Anyway, he's obviously not the reason this team has a 3-14 record overall including 1-3 in the Ivies. Columbia has plenty of talent, but continues to struggle playing consistent offense for forty minutes and defending against high quality big men as well as outside shooters like Brodeur, Morgan and Gettings. Of course it is easy to second guess coaching strategies of a losing team, but as Chet and cc66 have pointed out repeatedly, it makes no sense to play Hickman for twenty minutes or so each game when he give you only four points and not much else, while others such as Stefanini give you 19 points in 17 minutes. Yes, I know that is his season high, but the point is he not only deserves to start and play 34 minutes next Friday, but he needs to start and play 34 minutes next Friday. Will he start Friday night and play much? Based upon what we have seen this season from the coaching staff the answer has to be "probably not."

 
Sagatius 
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Reg: 11-17-15
01-28-18 11:00 AM - Post#244962    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

There are many reasons Columbia is losing - for the most part, by a missed shot or two. But, a key one is that Columbia’s go to guy in the clutch is just not making his shots. Mike Smith’s 2 and 3 point shooting percentages are down from last year, and in the clutch, his misses have become glaring. Last night, he missed 2 free throws that would have tied the game at the end and which would have been the difference in the ultimate score. He is not playing like a 40 minute a game player, and maybe we need to see if others can step up. Stefanini would be a good candidate.



 
Chet Forte 
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01-28-18 11:40 AM - Post#244966    
    In response to Sagatius

Smith is playing 40 minutes a night. See last night’s box score. Last weekend at home he played 25 and we blew out Cornell. I think he is logging too many minutes, which may be adversely affecting his shot. And Meisner, our second best player, doesn’t seem to want to take over games despite his obvious talent.


 
Chet Forte 
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Reg: 03-02-08
01-28-18 11:47 AM - Post#244970    
    In response to Chet Forte

And as far as the rotation and the apparent stubbornness of this coaching staff, my guess is that we will see no change in the starting rotation next week. The last time there was criticism of our coaching it was met with a torrent of comments about how this was subverting morale, and that turning NJIT into a winner meant that we had the right staff for our program. So if criticism of the staff is off limits, then I will simply say that doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is a proposition with which I respectfully agree.


 
Columbia 37P6 
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Reg: 02-14-06
01-28-18 05:21 PM - Post#245016    
    In response to Chet Forte

Did you mean "respectfully disagree?"

 
Chet Forte 
Postdoc
Posts: 2012

Reg: 03-02-08
01-28-18 05:30 PM - Post#245020    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

Oops. Yes, it is a proposition with which I respectfully disagree.


 
Columbia 37P6 
PhD Student
Posts: 1542

Reg: 02-14-06
01-28-18 08:35 PM - Post#245034    
    In response to Chet Forte

Here's my record on negative critical comments on our basketball coaching staff and others:

1. Jack: None

2. Armand: Some

3. Joe: Many

4. Kyle: None

5. Jim; Some

6. Norries. A few, but I loved the guy.

7. Pete. Many.

8. Al and his staff: None, of course.

9. My wife: Some.

I doubt any of my comments on sports topics were ever taken seriously by anyone including my wife, but what the heck it beats politics.





 
SomeGuy 
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Reg: 11-22-04
01-29-18 12:04 PM - Post#245072    
    In response to Chet Forte

Matchups, matchups, matchups. Faulds hasn’t disappeared at all, and probably will be right back in the rotation against Harvard on Friday. He’s just a bad matchup against Gettings. When teams play guys who are more glued to the interior you’ll see more Faulds (which is why his best game was against Albany).



 
Filippo2014 
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Age: 70
Reg: 04-10-14
01-29-18 01:06 PM - Post#245076    
    In response to SomeGuy

@ Cornell 2
A lot of missed shots down the stretch. Lots and lots. That is why Columbia lost this game.
Clutch time? Stefanini only guy who made shots.
Smith -- two missed free throws. Hanson, two missed open 3s. Castlin, missed layup. Hickman. Where do I start with Nate Hickman?

 
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