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Silver Maple 
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02-05-18 11:27 AM - Post#246188    
    In response to PennFan10

Hopefully the coaching staff can translate this success on the court into success on the recruiting front. The program is going to need to up the talent level in order to remain competitive.

 
mrjames 
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Re: Yale
02-05-18 11:27 AM - Post#246189    
    In response to palestra38

Again, nuts.

 
palestra38 
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Re: Yale
02-05-18 11:40 AM - Post#246196    
    In response to mrjames

OK, if you feel that is necessary to support an argument.

 
PennFan10 
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02-05-18 11:49 AM - Post#246202    
    In response to Silver Maple

  • Silver Maple Said:
Hopefully the coaching staff can translate this success on the court into success on the recruiting front. The program is going to need to up the talent level in order to remain competitive.



Obviously there needs to be a talent infusion. Building a program requires better players and this trajectory isn't sustainable without an infusion of talent. Yet building a culture of winning and team chemistry is an underrated part of building a winning program. SD has done a great job and this current team has tremendous character such that they are punching above their weight class with consistency in play and effort.

I imagine a team in a couple years playing like this team is playing, with Eddie, Jarrod, Jelani, Mike Wang, Dev Goodman and Ryan Betley, along with hopefully soon to be identified top talent and I like the path we are on.


 
palestra38 
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02-05-18 12:17 PM - Post#246207    
    In response to PennFan10

I agree with what both of you have said and if it is of any solace, Grace Calhoun was at the 40th Anniversary reception for the Class of '78 team and said that we have done a great job of turning the program around, but that we are still a step or two away in terms of talent level of where we will be. So she is confident that we will be better going forward, for whatever that is worth.

 
Streamers 
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02-05-18 01:13 PM - Post#246213    
    In response to palestra38

Given that next year's class appears to have 3 quality players (including the red-shirts) and we are off to a good start with Max M., just add 2 more to the class of 2023 and we will be fine for quite a while.

 
PennFan10 
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02-05-18 01:25 PM - Post#246216    
    In response to Streamers

This year's team is playing consistently well and due to the injuries and down classes in the IL this year, will have a chance to win the regular season and host 2 games for the NCAA. This is a fortuitous opportunity to springboard the program in recruiting, as the league will likely be healthy next year and have 2-4 KP 100 teams when this year there likely won't be any.

 
10Q 
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02-05-18 01:48 PM - Post#246220    
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Who is going to shoot from 3 next year other than Betley?

 
palestra38 
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02-05-18 01:51 PM - Post#246221    
    In response to 10Q

Meaning who is going to replace Wood?

 
Silver Maple 
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02-05-18 02:00 PM - Post#246222    
    In response to palestra38

We just have to hope that somebody emerges next season as a 3-pt threat.

 
10Q 
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02-05-18 02:04 PM - Post#246223    
    In response to palestra38

And Sam

 
Streamers 
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02-05-18 02:06 PM - Post#246224    
    In response to Silver Maple

Williams and Scott are likely the best hopes for that

 
10Q 
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02-05-18 02:29 PM - Post#246228    
    In response to Streamers

I'm hoping Woods and AJ work a lot on their jumpers.

 
TheLine 
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02-05-18 02:50 PM - Post#246233    
    In response to 10Q

I'm sure they will.

FWIW Jelani was nailing 3's from the top of the arc before the Monmouth game. But no one contesting them of course. Much easier to make a shot without a hand in your face.


 
SomeGuy 
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Re: Yale
02-05-18 02:52 PM - Post#246235    
    In response to palestra38

The reason I discount the "guarding the best offensive player on the other team" thing is because it is completely demonstrably false. Do you know how many possessions he guarded Mike Smith when Foreman was in the game and there wasn't a switch? Do you know when Smith's run started? When Foreman was off the floor and Woods had to guard him. Again, against Yale, when Copeland was off the floor, Foreman had Oni. Do you think that was because they thought Darnell couldn't guard EricMonroe? These aren't eye test things, nor are they advanced stats things. They are simply true things, and on the other side is you just making stuff up. Jeff would say making $&;@ up.

 
SomeGuy 
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02-05-18 02:57 PM - Post#246237    
    In response to 10Q

This may not be what people want to hear, but I would think it could be Donahue.

My guess if I had to make one is that Woods and Williams start with Donahue playing the Caleb role.

But it could be Woods and Silpe starting. And Goodman could get back in the mix.

In some ways, because of the need for a shooter, the most predictable thing might be Donahue getting significant bench minutes -- that might be more predictable than who starts with Antonio. I suppose there is also a reasonable possibility that Woods is the point and Donahue starts at off guard.

 
penn nation 
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02-05-18 02:57 PM - Post#246238    
    In response to TheLine

There aren't so many current Penn guards that can consistently do this even left open.

  • TheLine Said:
I'm sure they will.

FWIW Jelani was nailing 3's from the top of the arc before the Monmouth game. But no one contesting them of course. Much easier to make a shot without a hand in your face.





 
palestra38 
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Re: Yale
02-05-18 03:00 PM - Post#246239    
    In response to SomeGuy

Who said anything about Smith? If you're going to make a point, let's at least go with something I said. Smith began scoring because they were desperate and he starting throwing up stuff....went in, but he's that kind of player. Neither Foreman nor Woods is as quick as Smith. Antonio wasn't around when Smith outscored Foreman last year 20-1. It is simply fact, not "making sh.t up" that Donahue regularly puts Woods on the toughest, strongest player because of his speed and strength. Are you going to suggest that Foreman is as big and strong as Woods? I suppose you could argue it depends on the kind of player who is the "best" player, but I would suggest that is a nitpick rather than any kind of true analysis. Against Yale, Oni scored 3 early buckets, and they put Woods on him. Did Woods cover Oni every minute of the rest of the game? Of course not.

 
palestra38 
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02-05-18 03:02 PM - Post#246240    
    In response to SomeGuy

From what I have been hearing, Donahue is pretty far back in the hunt for PT right now. I would doubt that they would go back to him unless there is a major improvement in something that now is being found lacking.

 
PennFan10 
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02-05-18 03:29 PM - Post#246241    
    In response to palestra38

Well Silpe was dead and hurried an. Ow look. Jackson can shoot it. And if he finds his stroke again, he will get some PT.

 
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