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SomeGuy 
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02-07-18 10:29 PM - Post#246868    

Since we’ve been on the topic of who guards the opponent’s best offensive player, how do we guard Dartmouth? I’d guess Foreman on Barry, Woods on Johnson. After that, it gets interesting. Could see Max or AJ on Wright if Rai starts. Otherwise, I assume it’s Betley initially on Wright with Max on Emery and AJ on Jackson/Knight. Max on Stephens is kind of a revelation in terms of who he can defend, and shows we have lots of choices, though. So he could get the more mobile guy, which is what we did against Princeton.

 
penn nation 
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Re: Dartmouth
02-07-18 10:35 PM - Post#246869    
    In response to SomeGuy

Who guards Boudreaux?

Thank God we can retire that question.

 
PennFan10 
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02-08-18 12:50 AM - Post#246877    
    In response to penn nation

Maybe Jerome will come to the game! Celtics are in town and play Friday night and Sunday so he is available.

 
10Q 
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02-08-18 06:48 AM - Post#246881    
    In response to PennFan10

So maybe we blow these guys out and go deep into the bench early, and save the legs of the Iron 6 for the next night, er, afternoon.

 
palestra38 
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02-08-18 06:59 AM - Post#246882    
    In response to 10Q

Why do you say things like that? You'll turn into a pillar of salt.

 
10Q 
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02-08-18 08:21 AM - Post#246884    
    In response to palestra38

Are you saying I'm giving the team an evil eye?

 
TheLine 
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02-08-18 08:29 AM - Post#246885    
    In response to 10Q

That's what the plan should be. Would be nice that the key players don't have to play heavy minutes. Would also be nice that Simmons and Silpe in particular can get extended minutes with the first team players.


 
palestra38 
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02-08-18 08:46 AM - Post#246887    
    In response to TheLine

We haven't beaten them up there since '13-14. I would take absolutely nothing for granted. The Dartmouth game is the more important one given the scheduling and being a game we should win. If we walk away with a split, we still have Harvard at home and no worse than a tie.

 
LyleGold 
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02-08-18 08:47 AM - Post#246888    
    In response to palestra38

That only happens if you look back at Sodom and Gomorrah, er I mean, Jadwin Gym on your way to Hanover.


 
Silver Maple 
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02-08-18 09:06 AM - Post#246890    
    In response to 10Q

  • 10Q Said:
Are you saying I'm giving the team an evil eye?



Kina hora.

[Spitting on the ground three times.]

Now, take your keyboard outside and bury it in the backyard for a week.

 
Silver Maple 
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02-08-18 09:07 AM - Post#246891    
    In response to LyleGold

  • LyleGold Said:
That only happens if you look back at Sodom and Gomorrah, er I mean, Jadwin Gym on your way to Hanover.




Boy, did you just insult the good people of Sodom and Gomorrah.

 
TheLine 
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02-08-18 09:15 AM - Post#246892    
    In response to palestra38

Absolutely take nothing for granted. Win the game in front of you at all costs if necessary.

But we also can't play all games with 6 players getting almost all minutes - there's too much risk of wearing out at least of couple of them the way I think the Princeton big 3 are getting worn down. If not that, then there may be a game where the foul situation dictates playing time. Simmons and Silpe will have to be trusted with more minutes at some point, it would be nice that we have a less stressful game which Donahue can use to bleed them in. That's my hope at least.


 
10Q 
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02-08-18 09:22 AM - Post#246893    
    In response to TheLine

Our depth is good. We've got at least 10 guys who can play at a high enough level. Now go beat Dartmouth.

poo poo poo

 
QHoops 
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02-08-18 09:23 AM - Post#246894    
    In response to palestra38

I wonder if Ira ever thinks about the front end he missed in the last few seconds at Dartmouth his senior year. Penn lost by one, and I believe that game would have tied the UCLA record for league consecutive wins at 48.

 
palestra38 
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02-08-18 09:33 AM - Post#246895    
    In response to QHoops

And, of course, we finished in a tie and lost the tiebreaker to Princeton at Lehigh in OT. It couldda been us over UCLA

 
TheLine 
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02-08-18 10:18 AM - Post#246897    
    In response to 10Q

Coach has shown trust in 6 guys to play at a high level right now. If he trusted more he'd be playing more. Actions speak.


 
yoyo 
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02-08-18 10:26 AM - Post#246900    
    In response to TheLine

when are we going to see Sam Jones light it up again?

 
Silver Maple 
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02-08-18 10:29 AM - Post#246902    
    In response to TheLine

Trust might not be the right word here. Nevertheless, it's clear to me that there are six guys who are playing particularly well together, and the drop-off in cohesiveness after that is noticeable. All that said, I hope that the coach gives some combination of Simmons, Silpe, Jones, Donahue, McDonald, et al at least 20 minutes of non-garbage time on Friday. Saturday's game is huge, and winning it would be a major achievement, and fresh legs would help. Apparently, Tommy Amaker likes to say that the league is won on Saturday nights. He's probably right about that (although I'd love to see if the numbers support that hypothesis).

 
palestra38 
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02-08-18 10:39 AM - Post#246904    
    In response to Silver Maple

Yup--if we get a big lead. But Friday's game is more important in the big picture than Saturday. We cannot lose tomorrow. If we lose on Saturday, we still are at worst tied with Harvard having to travel to the Palestra. Get the game comfortably in hand and then loosen the roster. I'd be very surprised if we do anything different than that.

 
TheLine 
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Re: Dartmouth
02-08-18 10:53 AM - Post#246908    
    In response to SomeGuy

SomeGuy - I don't know enough about the Dartmouth players and their scoring is very distributed.

My rule of thumb is to put Woods on a player who is quick, physical, and likes to drive strong to the hoop if there's someone like that on the roster, otherwise give Foreman the tougher assignment on D. But the two of them are largely interchangeable. There's a significant drop off from Foreman/Woods to any of the other guards.


 
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