Untitled Document
Brown Columbia Cornell Dartmouth Harvard Penn Princeton Yale



 Page 2 of 2 ALL<12
Username Post: Columbia Leads Penn by Three at Halftime.        (Topic#21181)
PeteD 
Junior
Posts: 288
PeteD
Loc: California
Reg: 03-13-07
02-17-18 03:27 PM - Post#248273    
    In response to SomeGuy

  • SomeGuy Said:
On Stefanini, maybe that’s the move for the future, but Columbia was getting killed when he was in the game last night. In a first half in which they led by 3 overall, they were minus 9 when Stefanini was on the floor.



They were getting killed while he was on the floor or were they getting killed as a result of him being on the floor? Maybe it had something to do with Goodman catching fire.


 
Quakers03 
Professor
Posts: 7601

Reg: 12-07-04
Columbia Leads Penn by Three at Halftime.
02-17-18 04:43 PM - Post#248279    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

  • Columbia 37P6 Said:
Donohue works the refs successfully as Meisner is scolded for playing strong defense on a throw in from the side. Where is Coach Engles to defend Meisner? Penn now throws the ball in for an open three and a four point lead. Ouch! Credit Donohue for those three points.



And in a world where facts matter, not only was Meisner reaching over too far on the deflection, he decided to get in Caleb's face and taunt him after. He singlehandedly fired up the entire Penn team (thanks by the way) and I find it funny that his being "scolded" somehow led to that backbreaking 3. He still very much challenged the pass which came in high, and he's the one who got screened off on the 3. Did Coach DonAhue set the screen and I missed it?

 
TheLine 
Postdoc
Posts: 3619

Age: 54
Reg: 07-07-09
02-17-18 05:54 PM - Post#248283    
    In response to Quakers03

I agree with 37P6 - Meisner was aggressive but that's good basketball. The ref asked him - and it seemed politely as the ref was laughing - to not go over the sideline stripe. Meisner backed up so he wasn't hugging the line. If there was taunting then I missed it.

Donahue used it as an opportunity to work the refs. That's also good basketball and if Engles isn't doing enough of that then he should. I didn't think it impacted the next play though.

I recall Smith being too polite around the refs for his first couple of years until he had enough games coaching against the Hurleys to learn what to do.



 
Chet Forte 
Postdoc
Posts: 2018

Reg: 03-02-08
02-17-18 06:01 PM - Post#248284    
    In response to TheLine

There was Donohue, jacket off, working the refs, complaining all evening, firing up his team, calling in plays, etc. , and there was Engles, deep in thought I suppose.


 
Quakers03 
Professor
Posts: 7601

Reg: 12-07-04
Columbia Leads Penn by Three at Halftime.
02-17-18 06:01 PM - Post#248285    
    In response to TheLine

I can't comment on the disposition of Columbia's coach and I understand why their fans might be upset if this is a continuing trend but this is not the example to use. It happens right at the 5:47 mark. He not only stares him down, he gets in his face too. Is the contention that he would have stolen the ball if not for being spoken to?? He still obstructed the pass but the defender had backed off. Even if he hadn't taunted, what effect would Steve saying something have had? How many times is that pass stolen? He was in place on d and couldn't get through the screen. A fired up Penn team then really stuck it to him.

Now go beat Princeton!

 
TheLine 
Postdoc
Posts: 3619

Age: 54
Reg: 07-07-09
02-17-18 06:11 PM - Post#248287    
    In response to Quakers03

I don't think Meisner did anything wrong. He was just fired up for blocking the inbounds pass.

It was telling that Donahue and the Penn bench were more excited about it than Engles and the Columbia bench.

I miss Rosenberg.


 
Chet Forte 
Postdoc
Posts: 2018

Reg: 03-02-08
02-17-18 06:22 PM - Post#248289    
    In response to TheLine

There were half a dozen close calls in the second half that went Penn’s way. We blew the game, but the refs helped. And they helped because Donohue intimidates them and Engles is totally passive. Did you ever watch Bags work the refs on the sidelines. OK, so he got two unsportsmanlike calls on him this year but it was worth it. Smith sometimes got called for PFs but as least he let the refs know that he wasn’t a potted plant.


 
TheLine 
Postdoc
Posts: 3619

Age: 54
Reg: 07-07-09
02-17-18 06:38 PM - Post#248293    
    In response to Chet Forte

Bags is an all-time great at working the refs.


 
Quakers03 
Professor
Posts: 7601

Reg: 12-07-04
02-17-18 06:48 PM - Post#248294    
    In response to TheLine

Are you saying that from memory or did you rewatch it? It was completely uncalled for. Who steps into someones face and taunts on a deflected inbounds pass? And right in front of the Penn bench? Not a smart play.

 
palestra38 
Professor
Posts: 18441

Reg: 11-21-04
02-17-18 08:19 PM - Post#248318    
    In response to Chet Forte

Good to see you never change. Always the refs. How about the fact that Penn was clearly the more aggressive team---getting to the loose balls and earning the foul calls. If Penn had been shooting halfway to its potential, that would have been a game long blowout.

 
Chet Forte 
Postdoc
Posts: 2018

Reg: 03-02-08
02-17-18 11:10 PM - Post#248421    
    In response to palestra38

Love the way you guys from Penn troll on our blog. You always take the bait.


 
Silver Maple 
Postdoc
Posts: 3209

Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
02-17-18 11:28 PM - Post#248422    
    In response to Chet Forte

Your blog? It's the board for discussing Columbia basketball. It's not only for Columbia fans. Feel free to come over to the Penn board anytime. Love to have you.

 
Chip Bayers 
Postdoc
Posts: 4683
Chip Bayers
Loc: New York
Reg: 11-21-04
02-17-18 11:49 PM - Post#248426    
    In response to Silver Maple

Seriously, the next time someone blogs here will be the first time someone blogs here.


 
Murph 
Masters Student
Posts: 612

Age: 57
Reg: 09-13-11
02-20-18 07:42 AM - Post#248682    
    In response to Chet Forte

  • Chet Forte Said:
Lo, Mullins, Rosie, Luke, plus Cohen as the glue guy: all Smith recruits.



I miss Rosenberg also. He was a tough kid and team leader. But if I'm not mistaken, he was a Joe Jones recruit.


 
TheLine 
Postdoc
Posts: 3619

Age: 54
Reg: 07-07-09
02-20-18 07:51 AM - Post#248683    
    In response to Murph

Murph, you are correct. Jones recruited Rosenberg, then Rosenberg prepped for a year.

I believe the first Smith recruit was Jeff Coby.


 
 Page 2 of 2 ALL<12
Icon Legend Permissions Topic Options
Report Post

Quote Post

Quick Reply

Print Topic

Email Topic

1444 Views




Copyright © 2004-2012 Basketball U. Terms of Use for our Site and Privacy Policy are applicable to you. All rights reserved.
Basketball U. and its subsidiaries are not affiliated in any way with any NCAA athletic conference or member institution.
FusionBB™ Version 2.1 | ©2003-2007 InteractivePHP, Inc.
Execution time: 0.235 seconds.   Total Queries: 16   Zlib Compression is on.
All times are (GMT -0500) Eastern. Current time is 06:11 AM
Top