penn nation
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02-17-18 10:52 PM - Post#248416
In response to Chip Bayers
Indeed, but I hope this game goes to 5 OTs and keeps Yale and Harvard on the backburner.
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02-17-18 10:58 PM - Post#248417
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11:42 to go in the first half, and ESPNU has finally arrived with H up 16-10.
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02-17-18 11:09 PM - Post#248420
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5:58 to go, and Yale hasn't scored any further. Harvard really making it tough on D.
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02-18-18 12:25 AM - Post#248430
In response to penn nation
That Harvard D was pretty ferocious tonight.
Battle for first place at the Palestra. Hopefully we can handle their big guy better this time around.
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Cornell 02-18-18 03:39 AM - Post#248438
In response to penn nation
That Harvard D was pretty ferocious tonight.
Battle for first place at the Palestra. Hopefully we can handle their big guy better this time around.
Yale didn't have an answer for Lewis, either. Atkinson just wasn't strong enough to hold his position in the post on either end of the floor. When they double teamed him, he found open teammates who made Yale pay.
They didn't shoot well until the second half, and they turned the ball over way too much. And then they faded down the stretch.
Sound familiar?
Edited by weinhauers_ghost on 02-18-18 03:41 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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02-18-18 08:43 AM - Post#248444
In response to palestra38
Of course, we need to have our better foul shooters need to be in when they are going to commit intentional fouls. That's the one thing that gives me agita
It does seem to be a bit of an end game trend but in fairness, he realized his mistake and got Max out right after that.
Always satisfying to see Brian Earl lose.
I was thinking the same thing. I was also thinking how much easier it must be for opposing coaches to get to face the same system multiple times a year.
Another good win last night. An aggressive AJ is the best AJ. It is really comforting to have confidence as these games wind down. We have an excellent team who the coach has a tremendous pulse of. It's a complete 180. I wake up after these games and just crave more. What a pleasure. They can't overlook Friday but man am I excited for Saturday. The shame is if they win, they can't afford a slip up at Yale or they'd most likely lose the tiebreak. Just keep it rolling and I hope Max is somehow getting healthy.
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02-18-18 08:47 AM - Post#248445
In response to Quakers03
What's the tie breaker?
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palestra38
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02-18-18 08:49 AM - Post#248446
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Of course, Harvard could lose to Princeton before coming to the Palestra. Not that I think that likely at this point, but doesn't it feel odd rooting for Princeton?
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Cornell 02-18-18 09:08 AM - Post#248448
In response to 10Q
Assuming a head to head split, it goes to record vs the next top team. Harvard's loss was to Coulmbia so assuming Yale finishes 3rd, we can't afford a loss in New Haven. If we beat Yale but lose to Brown or Dartmouth it would come down to who gets the 4th spot. At least that's my understanding.
It does feel odd rooting for the evil ones but I did it in the Doug Davis game. Just need a shower after. However, that's a dead team walking.
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Cornell 02-18-18 09:17 AM - Post#248449
In response to Quakers03
In the old days, the upcoming Harvard game would be critical in determining who dances.
This year it is still a big game, but it only affects who may get an NIT bid and seeding in the big dance. So it's far far less important.
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02-18-18 10:44 AM - Post#248454
In response to 10Q
Correct. It also matters for someone trying to choose where to buy seats for the Sunday game.
How are regular season titles awarded now that there's no tiebreak? I guess a tie means both get a banner? It's so nice to be able to have this discussion.
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02-18-18 10:52 AM - Post#248455
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I already got tickets for Sunday’s game. Now that’s faith.
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Re: Cornell 02-18-18 10:55 AM - Post#248456
In response to 10Q
Also, while it is a little hard to see how Ivy seeding would matter right now with the logjam, it might look different in a couple of weeks. Yale with Mason back may look a lot more like a team to avoid by then. I don’t expect Brown, Columbia, or Cornell to suddenly win 4 straight, but if someone did, they’d look like an opponent to avoid sitting at 8-6 with Cambridge, Smith, or Morgan on a hot streak. So the number one seed may turnout to matter.
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02-18-18 10:57 AM - Post#248457
In response to SomeGuy
Crapshoot
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penn nation
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Re: Cornell 02-18-18 11:52 AM - Post#248469
In response to 10Q
In the old days, the upcoming Harvard game would be critical in determining who dances.
This year it is still a big game, but it only affects who may get an NIT bid and seeding in the big dance. So it's far far less important.
In my opinion the autobid to a postseason tourney is huge. That's because the IL tourney is going to be a total crapshoot this year. It would be a crying shame for a very likely 20+ win Penn team not to even make the postseason given how it has so wonderfully performed above expectations this year.
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02-18-18 11:56 AM - Post#248471
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Meh
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02-18-18 11:57 AM - Post#248472
In response to penn nation
Agreed. Winning the regular season title really does matter. If Penn ends this season without an appearance in either the NCAA tournament or the NIT, that will be a huge disappointment. It would suck for the players, and a lot of the potential recruiting benefit of this unexpectedly good season may be lost.
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02-18-18 12:30 PM - Post#248477
In response to Silver Maple
A few months ago I would have agreed. Now, anything but the big dance would be hugely disappointing.
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02-18-18 12:40 PM - Post#248480
In response to 10Q
Agreed, but Penn should have no trouble beating anyone but Harvard at the Palestra. If Penn lost to any of those teams at home, that Would suck
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Cornell 02-18-18 12:42 PM - Post#248481
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1) The IL is too unpredictable this year
2) Some of the other IL competitors are getting some of their top talent back late in the year
3) Some of the other IL competitors are simply more talented and have higher ceilings than Penn
4) The IL tourney in general is a crapshoot and this year more than last
Can't be heartbroken if we don't win the whole tourney. Now that Princeton team last year....that team would have been crushed if they didn't win it, and understandably so.
In order to advance to any postseason tourney beyond the IL tourney, we may have to defeat Harvard twice. That will not be an easy task.
Edited by penn nation on 02-18-18 12:44 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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