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02-18-18 12:52 PM - Post#248482
In response to penn nation
As long as we beat them on Sunday, the first one won’t matter.
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Streamers
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02-18-18 01:07 PM - Post#248484
In response to 10Q
They really need to get some consistency at the FT line; even our more reliable kids were clanking them last night.
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TheLine
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02-18-18 01:21 PM - Post#248487
In response to Streamers
Or consistency in general, even with the better players. Betley had one of his best and one of his worst games in the same weekend.
Fortunately AJ has been consistently good in Ivy play.
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penn nation
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02-18-18 01:56 PM - Post#248488
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The other good bit is that we have had quite a few players step up off the bench this year to play crucial roles in victories.
That makes it challenging to prepare for Penn. We don’t have unbelievable talent but we have a whole bunch of players who can step up when needed and play within a solid team concept.
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penn nation
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02-18-18 01:58 PM - Post#248489
In response to 10Q
Man you are taking way too much for granted.
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10Q
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02-18-18 02:01 PM - Post#248491
In response to penn nation
I’m taking the semi final “for granted “ aka beating a dwarf.
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penn nation
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Re: Cornell
02-18-18 02:18 PM - Post#248494
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If Penn has a #2 seed and has to face a likely #3 seed Yale with Mason now back in the fold that ain’t no dwarf.
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PennFan10
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02-18-18 03:34 PM - Post#248502
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You mean the Mason led team that lost by 20 last night?
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penn nation
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02-18-18 03:56 PM - Post#248503
In response to PennFan10
The Crimson team that played like that last night will win the IL. Not as much a statement about Mason as it is about Harvard really finding its groove.
Edited by penn nation on 02-18-18 03:56 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Quakers03
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02-18-18 04:17 PM - Post#248504
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Eh. I think Penn, if Max is healthy, gives that Harvard team last night quite the game at the Palestra. While Harvard did a lot to stem runs, Yale let that game get out of hand early and I didn't think it was all Harvard's doing.
As for Mason, it's tough to cite his first game back as evidence that they won't be someone we want to avoid.
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02-18-18 04:44 PM - Post#248508
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It’s just as hard to speculate they are a team to be worried about. They are what they are at this point.
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Streamers
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02-18-18 06:02 PM - Post#248521
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I suspect Penn would be a 3-4 pt favorite at home as of now.
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02-18-18 06:15 PM - Post#248524
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***SMALL SAMPLE ALERT***
By my eyeballing the PBP, it looks like Yale lost 35-29 with Mason on the floor in 21 mins & Mason shot 2-for-6 from the line (I believe he missed a front end, IIRC, and I always add those back). So if he shoots a normal 4 or 5 for 6, that’d be, say, 35-31 or 35-32 versus an off floor of 29-20.
Having watched the game a couple times, Yale did indeed look better with Mason out there. The looks the Bulldogs got were much cleaner, as Mason was not only shooting but also creating for others off the bounce. His turnover was even pretty impressive - a cross court whipped skip pass that was a shade high but would have been an open three on the back side of the Harvard D.
I didn’t see a ton of rust. That being said, for a Yale team without the rim protection he was used to when he was out there before (or even in the preseason with Bruner), he’s gonna be a defensive liability.
Remains to be seen if he can build to 30 mins a game with such a short remaining runway too.
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Re: Cornell
02-18-18 06:17 PM - Post#248525
In response to penn nation
Is it more of a crapshoot than last year (or most years)? Harvard and Yale last year looked pretty even coming in and played that way. This year, you have two 9-1 teams. Third place is 5-5. At least the way the games have played out so far, there is way more space between 2 and 3 than there was last year. So I think overall the top 2 as of today would have a significantly better chance of both advancing than they did last year. Maybe the season itself has been more of a crapshoot for 3rd place, but that won’t matter for the tour
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Re: Cornell
02-18-18 06:17 PM - Post#248526
In response to penn nation
Is it more of a crapshoot than last year (or most years)? Harvard and Yale last year looked pretty even coming in and played that way. This year, you have two 9-1 teams. Third place is 5-5. At least the way the games have played out so far, there is way more space between 2 and 3 than there was last year. So I think overall the top 2 as of today would have a significantly better chance of both advancing than they did last year. Maybe the season itself has been more of a crapshoot for 3rd place, but that won’t matter for the tournament unless someone gets hot.
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penn nation
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Re: Cornell
02-18-18 06:53 PM - Post#248529
In response to SomeGuy
Princeton was a clear favorite to come out of the tourney last year. I doubt such a clear favorite will emerge this year.
And for a 9-1 team, we're not exactly talking a Penn juggernaut. This is not the kind of team that is going to regularly demolish its Ivy competitors by double digits. What's different this year is that we've raised our floor considerably....not that the ceiling height has changed all that much.
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Re: Cornell
02-18-18 07:18 PM - Post#248530
In response to penn nation
Got it. Don’t short change the Quakers too much — 9-1 is 9-1.
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penn nation
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Re: Cornell
02-18-18 07:34 PM - Post#248532
In response to SomeGuy
Got it. Don’t short change the Quakers too much — 9-1 is 9-1.
Not at all. They are winning games! For many of us, a revelation after so many years in the desert. Finding ways to do it in the second half, just about every game, as a team.
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caughtinasnare
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02-18-18 07:44 PM - Post#248536
In response to mrjames
To be fair, they were making offense for defense subs with Mason toward the end, so it makes sense he scored a few without giving up some in the +/-.
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Old Bear
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02-18-18 08:03 PM - Post#248539
In response to caughtinasnare
The Mason issue might be less important that the Aikens issue.
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