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Tiger69 
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02-19-18 06:25 PM - Post#248653    
    In response to SomeGuy

I like the idea of the 256 field, too - maybe with a first round loser's bracket or double elimination. Every conference has its own season that is over by the end of January. NCAA begins in February and everything is over by mid March. Think of all the extra time players will have for classes!

 
penn nation 
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02-19-18 07:28 PM - Post#248661    
    In response to Silver Maple

  • Silver Maple Said:
It would certainly be a spectacle-- I'll say that.



Maybe not. Did you see the Man City FA Cup game today?


 
bradley 
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02-19-18 08:39 PM - Post#248668    
    In response to SomeGuy

Based on Kenpom, Drexel vs. Virginia -- 40 point spread -- sounds exciting. NCAA can give out participants trophies at the conclusion of the game.

 
SomeGuy 
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02-19-18 09:08 PM - Post#248669    
    In response to bradley

I’m not sure that fans of a one bid conference should be making that argument. There usually is a team around 256 kenpom in the tournament (and sometimes lower). Personally i think there is nothing better than the first round of the tournament. I think playing from 256 (or 128) would give more chances for smaller schools to pull off upsets and would be great theater.

 
sparman 
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02-19-18 11:13 PM - Post#248674    
    In response to SomeGuy

I agree re: first (and second) round; I find regionals and finals a letdown. Of course this means not relegating "minor" conferences to the Omega Fraternity rush side room. Let them in and give them a chance instead of agonizing over which .500 power conference is in the top 50 teams (Jay Bilas, please sit down and shut up). But we all should know by now the big conferences are only looking for more ways to get their 6-8 team into the Dance.

 
Penndemonium 
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02-20-18 02:13 PM - Post#248706    
    In response to sparman

I've long held the belief that the NCAA should assign a certain number of bids to conferences prior to the conference championships. If a conference wants to send a team that didn't qualify in the regular season but won their conference tournament, then they should bump one of the teams within their conference. That way we wouldn't wind up with more slots for the major conferences and it would give more small school teams a chance - even a small one.

 
sparman 
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Columbia
02-20-18 02:31 PM - Post#248707    
    In response to Penndemonium

That makes sense, and I'll go further to say they should assign a number of slots before the season begins, which will make the regular season more significant.

But then this is all a pipe dream.

 
westcoast 
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Reg: 03-08-16
Re: Columbia
02-20-18 03:11 PM - Post#248708    
    In response to sparman

I don't think that is a good idea. In past years, there have been really good mid-major teams like Gonzaga or Wichita State that were much better than everyone else in their conference. If they had lost in their conference tournament, they shouldn't be left out of the NCAA tournament because it was decided to be a one-bid league beforehand. And their conferences shouldn't automatically become two-bid leagues either - what if the favorite does win the conference tournament?

The Selection Committee needs flexibility to deal with situations like this.

 
sparman 
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Re: Columbia
02-20-18 09:26 PM - Post#248734    
    In response to westcoast

I understand the point, but I'd rather suffer through a second team from a "lesser" conference in place of a 6th place team from a "major" conference. And they can hold a couple places in reserve to protect against major injustice.

 
westcoast 
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Re: Columbia
02-20-18 11:05 PM - Post#248742    
    In response to sparman

I think the best tournament is by starting with the 32 conference champions, and then filling in the bracket with the 32 (or 36) best remaining teams. The problem with the current system is how they pick the best remaining teams. I would rather work on a better system for that, rather than forcing a fixed number from any conference. That will just lead to more problems.

 
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