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cc66 
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02-21-18 04:21 PM - Post#248800    

http://www.gocolumbialions.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB...

Game notes out; starting lineup the same; Seniors Castlin and Hickman to be recognized at Saturday Yale game.

 
roarlionroar 
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02-23-18 12:32 PM - Post#249013    
    In response to cc66

Game Notes (Prognosis): Two losses by a combined 4 points.

 
cc66 
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02-23-18 01:57 PM - Post#249027    
    In response to roarlionroar

Maybe, but we are such a bipolar team. Let's just hope last Saturday's experience of playing good basketball was sufficiently instructive that it carries over to this weekend, in which event we should defeat two teams to whom we lost narrowly on the road.

 
Columbia Alum 
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02-23-18 02:33 PM - Post#249031    
    In response to cc66

we'll be lucky to beat brown today, yale is a long shot with makai mason back, I'm hoping for 1-1 and preparing for 0-2

 
cc66 
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02-23-18 03:01 PM - Post#249034    
    In response to Columbia Alum

It's certainly chastening how often I have been wrong about these predictions. But FWIW, KenPom has us beating Brown by 6 (71%), and Yale by 2 (55%), though the latter may not give sufficient weight to Mason's return to the lineup.

 
Chet Forte 
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02-23-18 03:16 PM - Post#249035    
    In response to cc66

It all depends on what team shows up for us. If it is the team that beat Harvard then we will win both games.


 
LionFan 
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02-23-18 08:18 PM - Post#249071    
    In response to Chet Forte

So the Ivy Network broadcast is blacked out in NYC for a nonexistent SNY cablecast, and Columbia's website has no contact info to get them to correct it. I was looking forward to watching the game.

 
Old Bear 
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02-23-18 08:27 PM - Post#249075    
    In response to LionFan

Try ESPN 3

 
Chet Forte 
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02-23-18 10:26 PM - Post#249109    
    In response to Old Bear

Great win, 89-82. Even though our shooting was off for long stretches we raced to a nice lead in the second half and hung on. One of Smith’s best games. And Hickman played his best game. Engles did not let the game slip away by pressing all the right buttons over crunch time..


 
internetter 
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02-23-18 10:41 PM - Post#249114    
    In response to Chet Forte

The ILDN worked fairly well for me until the last couple of minutes. I saw the sign in/subscribe screen 3 times.

KCR supplied the final seconds.
west coast fan


 
Chet Forte 
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02-23-18 10:52 PM - Post#249120    
    In response to internetter

PS, nice gesture by Mike Martin in taking a moment to wish the two Columbia seniors well in the post game handshakes.


 
Columbia Alum 
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02-23-18 10:54 PM - Post#249122    
    In response to internetter

We got to and crushed it at the charity stripe a ton. It was a lucky break.

 
Chet Forte 
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02-23-18 11:06 PM - Post#249128    
    In response to Columbia Alum

Stefanini showed a lot of poise for a first year as well. We had a 15 point lead with around 7 minutes to go. We tried to work the ball deep into the shot clock. Brown was pretty much forced to start fouling with around 6 minutes to go. Everybody who was on the floor for us was a good foul shooter. Brown’s #25, a first year front court player, was on the verge of starting a brawl in a scrum for a loose ball but cooler heads prevailed.


 
Columbia 37P6 
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02-24-18 12:35 AM - Post#249139    
    In response to Chet Forte

Very nice win with Hickman and Stefanini giving us the lead and then Smith, Castlin and Adlesh helping us hold on. We had some difficulty passing the ball inside that led to several turnovers. Overall, however, our three bigs were better than their Brown counterparts. Cambridge kept Brown in the game which was not unexpected considering how good a player he is. Engles made all the right calls from the sidelines. Columbia fans need to come out in force tomorrow night for the Yale game, which could be decided by the refs. A win over Yale should send the Lions on their way to the Ivy League Tournament!

 
cc66 
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02-24-18 12:53 AM - Post#249141    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

Actually, we did a fairly good job on Cambridge: he was 2-5 on 2s and 3-9 on 3s. Half of his points were the 13-17 he shot from the FT line.

Overall, it was a workman-like performance--barren stretches interspersed with just enough good shooting to get and maintain the lead. We are fortunate to have enough good players so we can shuffle them in and out when there are so many fouls. I wish that Tape and Faulds were better offensively, but they absorbed some fouls and blocked some shots when they needed to.

Now, if Brown can just beat Cornell, and we can squeeze by Yale, we'd have a pretty clear shot on the tournament.

 
Bears03 
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02-24-18 02:22 AM - Post#249144    
    In response to cc66

Felt like the Lions should have been down by 6 but closed up by 3 at the half, then went on a nice run in the first 10 minutes after the break to jump out by 15. Big difference is they got to the rim and that led to layups or fouls, getting to the line 14 more times as the Bears settled for a lot of off balance jumpers. Great game by Smith, he’s fun to watch.

 
Murph 
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brown/yale
02-24-18 07:52 AM - Post#249146    
    In response to Bears03

So far so good. The offense is really starting to click. It was nice to see Hickman making a solid contribution.

The Lions are in sole possession of 4th place in the standings, and according to ESPN, we currently have a 55% chance of beating Yale tonight and a 54% chance of beating Dartmouth on the road next week.

I'm looking forward to pizza at V&T's tonight, followed by the most important game of the Engles era to date. Go Lions!

 
Chet Forte 
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02-24-18 08:24 AM - Post#249149    
    In response to Murph

Actually the calls were pretty even at 38 and 34 if I am not mistaken.


 
palestra38 
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Re: brown/yale
02-24-18 09:12 AM - Post#249155    
    In response to Murph

Wow, V&T's is still there? That was a go to place in law school, c. 1980-'82. All the other places (such as the West End, Third Phase and many others like the great Cuban-Chinese place on 108th and B'Way) are gone.

Good win for CU last night--win tonight and you'll be at the Palestra in 2 weeks

 
Columbia 37P6 
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02-24-18 09:47 AM - Post#249161    
    In response to palestra38

Murph's right--this is the biggest game of the Engels era and then some. Hope Lion fans come in force tonight. The Columbia-Yale sports rivalry is becoming very interesting with Columbia and Yale fighting for championships in football, baseball and now possibly basketball.

 
mrjames 
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02-24-18 10:44 AM - Post#249166    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

At Sloan Sports Conf, so I haven’t had a chance to post the morning numbers, but yeah, Yale and Columbia are the big favorites for the 3 and 4. It’s fascinating who Brown, Cornell and Princeton should root for. Yale and Columbia at 6-6 would both have a tough weekend to bring home another win and now there are two spots to potentially catch. But Yale at 7-5 and Columbia at 5-7 really opens the door for 4th, while Yale is essentially in (tiebreakers excluded).

 
Murph 
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Re: brown/yale
02-24-18 12:56 PM - Post#249196    
    In response to palestra38

  • palestra38 Said:
Wow, V&T's is still there? That was a go to place in law school, c. 1980-'82. All the other places (such as the West End, Third Phase and many others like the great Cuban-Chinese place on 108th and B'Way) are gone.

Good win for CU last night--win tonight and you'll be at the Palestra in 2 weeks



Yes, V&T's is alive and well. I might even have to pick up a little homatash at the Hungarian Pasty Shop for later.


 
SomeGuy 
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02-24-18 12:57 PM - Post#249197    
    In response to mrjames

I assume Princeton has to be rooting for Yale. A game out of 4th with 2 to play (this assumes Princeton wins tonight, which is far from certain) seems a lot more reasonable than 2 out and needing to sweep next weekend while somebody else gets swept.

Otherwise, who knows. It’s complicated enough that I think Brown and Cornell both just need to be focused on the fact that good things likely happen if they win out. They don’t control their destiny in a mathematical sense, but they are probably close to it if they get to 7-7.

 
Columbia 37P6 
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02-24-18 06:06 PM - Post#249234    
    In response to SomeGuy

Do Columbia fans root for Cornell or Brown tonight?

 
Old Bear 
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02-24-18 06:23 PM - Post#249237    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

Brown

 
cc66 
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02-24-18 06:28 PM - Post#249238    
    In response to Old Bear

That's right. We want Brown to defeat Cornell tonight (Brown 5-7, Cornell 4-8), on the grounds that Brown will have a harder time next week with Penn/Princeton (KP average 167) than Cornell will with Dartmouth/Harvard (KP average 225).

 
mrjames 
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02-24-18 06:40 PM - Post#249240    
    In response to cc66

Probably Cornell. The Brown beats Penn at home and has a better win than Columbia for the second tiebreak possibility is all too real. Whereas you’ve got Cornell blocked on all reasonable tiebreak fronts.

 
cc66 
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02-24-18 07:21 PM - Post#249246    
    In response to mrjames

You're right, of course, if we lose tonight and are more likely to end up in a tie. If we win tonight, however, then it's more important that the teams nipping at our heels beat each other up in anticipation of who might have the best chance next weekend.

 
Silver Maple 
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Re: brown/yale
02-25-18 12:08 PM - Post#249468    
    In response to Murph

  • Murph Said:
  • palestra38 Said:
Wow, V&T's is still there? That was a go to place in law school, c. 1980-'82. All the other places (such as the West End, Third Phase and many others like the great Cuban-Chinese place on 108th and B'Way) are gone.

Good win for CU last night--win tonight and you'll be at the Palestra in 2 weeks



Yes, V&T's is alive and well. I might even have to pick up a little homatash at the Hungarian Pasty Shop for later.




I remember a Greek joint up near Columbia back when my wife was in grad school there. We went there a lot. Was it called Aesop's table? My new favorite place in that neighborhood is Community. Flattop is also really good.

 
Murph 
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Re: brown/yale
02-25-18 12:40 PM - Post#249474    
    In response to Silver Maple

I remember Aesop's Table. Great name, but I think it closed. My favorite Greek place in the neighborhood is The Symposium on 113th. It's been open forever.

Koronet Pizza is still there, and Tom's of course. Does anyone remember The West End when they still played jazz?

 
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