HARVARDDADGRAD
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02-23-18 11:10 AM - Post#248998
In response to Streamers
Three things going for Princeton tonight:
1. Jadwin
2. "MUST WIN" for Princeton
3. Although certainly not a trap game for Harvard, the regular season league championship is on the line Saturday night, possibly regardless of whether or not Harvard wins tonight.
For what it's worth, after numerous OOC 'clunkers', Harvard hasn't experienced one in a while. Is tonight true to OOC form? Or does Harvard continue its upwards trajectory while Princeton continues to struggle, especially from 3.
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SomeGuy
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Re: Penn v Dartmouth
02-23-18 11:29 AM - Post#249003
In response to palestra38
I think you’re moving the goalposts on me (again). You said he destroyed AJ at the Palestra. I said he didn’t. And then you started talking about what happened in Hanover. If the fact that he turned it over once in Hanover indicates that his turnovers at the Palestra didn’t matter, then I would argue that the fact that AJ shot poorly at the Palestra is trumped by the fact he shot well for the year.
More seriously, I do think that the overall body of work indicates more than what happens in one or two games. So if that is your point, we agree. If you evaluate Boudreaux purely on what you saw as a Penn fan, you are going to have an inflated view, because the two games you saw were half his league wins.
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penn nation
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02-23-18 11:41 AM - Post#249006
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Out of curiosity, when is the last time a Jadwin game has been a "trap game" for anyone?
Three things going for Princeton tonight:
1. Jadwin
2. "MUST WIN" for Princeton
3. Although certainly not a trap game for Harvard, the regular season league championship is on the line Saturday night, possibly regardless of whether or not Harvard wins tonight.
For what it's worth, after numerous OOC 'clunkers', Harvard hasn't experienced one in a while. Is tonight true to OOC form? Or does Harvard continue its upwards trajectory while Princeton continues to struggle, especially from 3.
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palestra38
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Re: Penn v Dartmouth
02-23-18 11:55 AM - Post#249008
In response to SomeGuy
I readily admitted that my view of him was based solely on the two games against Penn.
Guy was a player, though, and it would have been very interesting to see what he would have done this year.
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Streamers
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02-23-18 01:09 PM - Post#249019
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Three things going for Princeton tonight:
1. Jadwin
2. "MUST WIN" for Princeton
3. Although certainly not a trap game for Harvard, the regular season league championship is on the line Saturday night, possibly regardless of whether or not Harvard wins tonight.
For what it's worth, after numerous OOC 'clunkers', Harvard hasn't experienced one in a while. Is tonight true to OOC form? Or does Harvard continue its upwards trajectory while Princeton continues to struggle, especially from 3.
I bought the trap game theory avoiding Penn -11, Harvard is now GETTING 2. PU should have been desperate last week. Ivy Friday games get more action than they should from the dumb money because there are relatively few games to play. I'm taking Harvard and probably the over.
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Cvonvorys
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02-23-18 03:49 PM - Post#249039
In response to Streamers
Princeton sucks!!! Bet on Harvard...
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mrjames
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02-23-18 04:49 PM - Post#249049
In response to Streamers
Harvard +1.5 or +2 is the fair line.
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Cvonvorys
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02-23-18 05:19 PM - Post#249053
In response to mrjames
Harvard +1.5 or +2 is the fair line.
So what's a fair line for Penn v Harvard tomorrow night? Harvard +4 or +5?
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palestra38
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02-23-18 05:21 PM - Post#249054
In response to Cvonvorys
+3 at best
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Cvonvorys
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02-23-18 05:31 PM - Post#249057
In response to palestra38
That seems odd...
I just went back and checked... Princeton was -4 1/2 when we played them at Jadwin. If we were to play them tonite, do you think the line would be Princeton -1 1/2 or -2?
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palestra38
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02-23-18 05:33 PM - Post#249059
In response to Cvonvorys
Among many others, I find it hard to believe the lines on Princeton. Vegas still thinks they are a power in the League. I would be shocked but very happy if they take out Harvard tonight.
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mrjames
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02-23-18 05:36 PM - Post#249061
In response to palestra38
Penn -5.5 would be where I’d open it.
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palestra38
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02-23-18 05:41 PM - Post#249063
In response to mrjames
We'll see tomorrow---that may be the line if Princeton beats Harvard. But I think it will be closer to my number if Harvard wins.
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weinhauers_ghost
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02-23-18 10:46 PM - Post#249117
In response to palestra38
Bring out the shovels. Princeton is done. Both feet in the grave.
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palestra38
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02-23-18 10:53 PM - Post#249121
In response to weinhauers_ghost
They led virtually the entire game. Just threw it away. But no tears from me. I want Penn to win it by running the last 3.
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OldBig5
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02-23-18 10:55 PM - Post#249123
In response to palestra38
Saw most of the game; Princeton really did throw it away. As much as they have slipped this year I am still happy to see them out of the tourney. Beating them three times would not have been easy.
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Silver Maple
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02-23-18 11:05 PM - Post#249127
In response to OldBig5
See, here’s the thing about having a conference tournament: to win it, there’s a pretty good chance you’re going to have to beat somebody for the third time that season.
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Streamers
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02-24-18 12:34 AM - Post#249138
In response to mrjames
Penn -5.5 would be where I’d open it.
I would have said 4.5 but after tonight’s results I think you may be right.
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weinhauers_ghost
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02-24-18 08:08 AM - Post#249147
In response to palestra38
They led virtually the entire game. Just threw it away. But no tears from me. I want Penn to win it by running the last 3.
They did throw it away. They managed to foul out Lewis early in OT, but Aririguzoh clanked both FT attempts after that play, and pretty much everyone else was throwing up rocks from the line as well. I thought they completely lost their poise down the stretch. Terrible execution of every phase of the game.
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mrjames
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02-24-18 09:06 AM - Post#249154
In response to Streamers
-4.5 wouldn't be unreasonable. Think -5 or -5.5 are better fits, but -4.5 wouldn't be crazy.
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