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Username Post: Harvard        (Topic#21209)
Eric Von Zipper 
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02-22-18 09:41 PM - Post#248961    

Game opens pick'em

 
Silver Maple 
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02-22-18 09:45 PM - Post#248962    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

Go Tigers. E I E I E I O.

 
penn nation 
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02-22-18 10:00 PM - Post#248965    
    In response to Silver Maple

Take those dudes down, on the way to your grave.



 
1LotteryPick1969 
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02-23-18 08:26 PM - Post#249074    
    In response to penn nation

Mitch's gray highlights look great on hi-def.

Wonderful left handed jump hook by AririG

 
Chip Bayers 
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02-23-18 09:53 PM - Post#249094    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

Just awful execution on offense on last few possessions here after Harvard tied it at 60. Last chance with this force of a shot clock violation.


 
1LotteryPick1969 
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02-23-18 09:56 PM - Post#249095    
    In response to Chip Bayers

Horrible last play in regulation

 
Chip Bayers 
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02-23-18 09:58 PM - Post#249096    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

Yeah, they’re just really tentative and hesitant. Playing not to lose.


 
Chip Bayers 
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02-23-18 10:03 PM - Post#249097    
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Good work by Aririguzoh to get Lewis off his feet and foul him out. But the deadly 0-2 FT trip, and now they’re down 4.


 
Chip Bayers 
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02-23-18 10:05 PM - Post#249098    
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Now Much an 0-2. Awful stuff.


 
1LotteryPick1969 
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02-23-18 10:11 PM - Post#249101    
    In response to Chip Bayers

And so it goes

 
gokinsmen 
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02-23-18 10:15 PM - Post#249106    
    In response to Chip Bayers

Another comedy of errors ends the season. Might as well forfeit to Dartmouth tomorrow. This team gave up weeks ago.

That one Brown game completely broke them and shattered their confidence for the rest of the year. How can one game do that? With this level of talent, it's inexcusable to have a collapse this historic.

Myles, Devin and Co. need the summer to recharge. And Mitch needs to go on some Tony Robbins-style retreat to figure out why he can't motivate his team.

 
Silver Maple 
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02-23-18 10:25 PM - Post#249108    
    In response to gokinsmen

Thanks for taking them to OT. Much appreciated. But would it have killed you to win?

 
Eric Von Zipper 
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02-23-18 10:32 PM - Post#249112    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

Same old story. Foul more than they get fouled and then miss the free throws.

The game should have never gone to OT

 
umbrellaman 
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02-23-18 10:43 PM - Post#249115    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

Let me apologize to Princeton fandom. During the semifinals of the Ivy Tournament, various bargains, deals, contracts and covenants were offered to multiple supernatural entities, some of dubious provenance, in exchange for a win against the Quakers in their House of Horrors. Deliverance has a price it seems, and it seems it's time to pay.

 
TigerFan 
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Re: Harvard
02-23-18 11:05 PM - Post#249126    
    In response to gokinsmen

Something is seriously wrong with this team and it’s pretty clear it starts with the coach. I’m afraid it looks like Mitch has no idea what he’s doing at the end of games or first halfs. (Myles hitting a three at the end of the half was a rare exception in league play). Time and again we are not even getting shots off in crunch time.

What was the team thinking trying to run clock up 4, then up 2 at the end of regulation? Harvard’s defense is just too good to try to start looking for a shot with under 10 seconds. You can get away with that when you have a solid defense but this team needs to outscore it’s opponents. That was a carbon copy of the way they blew the late 4 point lead against Brown.

To think I missed snow boarding for that!

 
Chip Bayers 
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02-23-18 11:15 PM - Post#249131    
    In response to umbrellaman

  • umbrellaman Said:
Let me apologize to Princeton fandom. During the semifinals of the Ivy Tournament, various bargains, deals, contracts and covenants were offered to multiple supernatural entities, some of dubious provenance, in exchange for a win against the Quakers in their House of Horrors. Deliverance has a price it seems, and it seems it's time to pay.



Sacrificing to the ghost of Spencer Gloger is what angered too many other gods Patrick.


 
Silver Maple 
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02-23-18 11:25 PM - Post#249134    
    In response to Chip Bayers

Someplace, Donald Moxley is having a good laugh.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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Re: Harvard
02-24-18 08:42 AM - Post#249150    
    In response to gokinsmen

  • gokinsmen Said:
Another comedy of errors ends the season. Might as well forfeit to Dartmouth tomorrow. This team gave up weeks ago.

That one Brown game completely broke them and shattered their confidence for the rest of the year. How can one game do that? With this level of talent, it's inexcusable to have a collapse this historic.

Myles, Devin and Co. need the summer to recharge. And Mitch needs to go on some Tony Robbins-style retreat to figure out why he can't motivate his team.



Well, at least I have no motivation to drive up to tonight’s game from Baltimore in the rain.

I don’t think any of us thought this team would be great, but certainly good enough to make the tournament.

The collapse, as stated, started with the loss to Brown, continued with Bell’s air ball foul shot, and ended with the miserable free throw shooting down the stretch this game.

Also a couple defensive lapses by Desrosier.

Looking back, the knee injury to Gladson left us undermanned in the pivot. He also had a difficult time getting in the offensive and defensive flow due to his late entry into the lineup.

But to me, the Miami game showed the world that Cannady is guardable--you just have to put someone in his shirt. He can’t create space, and then he gets frustrated and drives to the hoop into the teeth of the defense, often creating turnovers.

Bell is frustrating; he has so much talent. My biggest criticism of Mitch is his failure to utilize Bell to advantage.

Stephens stepped up, mostly by taking 3’s and hitting them. But we all know about variance with the three ball. Harvard chose not to double him down low, and they are one of the few teams that can get away with it. I hope next year when he feels the double, he can find the open man on a kick out, but like Ian Hummer, may never be adept at it. If he could find the open man like Weisz, it would make teams much more reluctant to double him.

Stephens 4 of 5 from 3. Rest of team: 5 of 22. Ecch.

Much was forced to play D on the big man down low, and worked hard at it. I think that energy expenditure is why he shot so poorly.

I hope Carril spends the summer teaching Aririguzoh to shoot foul shots. The rest of his game has progressed wonderfully.

But next year we are still undermanned with bigs, and will presumably have a freshman point guard, while the rest of the league matures as well. I guess the goal next year is the same: just get to the tournament.



 
sparman 
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Re: Harvard
02-24-18 09:49 AM - Post#249162    
    In response to TigerFan

There's lacrosse v. UVA on espn3 today @ 1:00 PM. We'll probably lose, but the team cares and the season is early so there's lots of optimism.

 
palestra38 
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Re: Harvard
02-24-18 10:44 AM - Post#249167    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

It's not the first time a hot shot underclassman was exposed when forced to be a leader on the court. A lot of us thought that Princeton would struggle losing Weisz and Cook, as well as their big men. How could they not? Very few Ivy teams in recent years have had that level of talent on an undefeated team graduate---all I can think of is Penn in 2008 and 1996 (although that team managed to tie Princeton and lose a heartbreaker in OT in the playoff). And now you will lose Bell...it will be tough until Princeton has more game ready players, could be 2-3 years. No one would have expected the collapse like this, though.

 
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