Cvonvorys
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03-01-18 11:44 AM - Post#249997
I know it's probably a day early to start talking about Friday's Penn/Yale game, but I'm already fired up. It's too early for Vegas to provide a line for this game. Y'all are pretty damn good at predicting what the spread will be... Guesses?
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mrjames
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Re: Penn v Yale
03-01-18 11:55 AM - Post#249998
In response to Cvonvorys
I'll go Penn -1.5.
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palestra38
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Re: Penn v Yale
03-01-18 11:58 AM - Post#250001
In response to mrjames
That is a very tough place to play. The game means a lot more to Penn than Yale, but ....it's a tough place to play (we did shockingly destroy them up there last year).
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10Q
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03-01-18 12:00 PM - Post#250002
In response to palestra38
I wanted to disagree and say that the game means more to Yale, but it really is almost utterly meaningless for the Eli. It's not that big of a game for Penn either. It's big, like any other game, but that's about it, unless you are into the NIT.
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palestra38
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Penn v Yale
03-01-18 12:07 PM - Post#250005
In response to 10Q
I would much rather play the 4th place team in the Tournament and have Harvard battered by Yale. Neither Columbia nor Cornell is very physical
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10Q
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03-01-18 12:19 PM - Post#250007
In response to palestra38
Makes sense.
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penn nation
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Re: Penn v Yale
03-01-18 12:21 PM - Post#250008
In response to palestra38
I would much rather play the 4th place team in the Tournament and have Harvard battered by Yale. Neither Columbia nor Cornell is very physical good.
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PennFan10
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Penn v Yale
03-01-18 12:22 PM - Post#250010
In response to 10Q
I can tell you the coaches and players are treating this like a title game. They know they have to win to get a 1 seed, hang a banner, and guarantee quality post season hoops. Steve Donahue has said as as much publicly
Edited by PennFan10 on 03-01-18 12:40 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Cvonvorys
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Re: Penn v Yale
03-01-18 12:25 PM - Post#250011
In response to palestra38
That is a very tough place to play.
Why?
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10Q
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03-01-18 12:30 PM - Post#250012
In response to PennFan10
That's great!
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palestra38
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Re: Penn v Yale
03-01-18 12:37 PM - Post#250013
In response to Cvonvorys
It's a very small gym with the seats (old fashioned wooden chairbacks like you would see in a 1930s Yale classroom) virtually overlooking the court with 2 balconies. Gets very loud and when Yale is on a run, deafening.
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Cvonvorys
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Re: Penn v Yale
03-01-18 12:41 PM - Post#250014
In response to palestra38
It's a very small gym with the seats (old fashioned wooden chairbacks like you would see in a 1930s Yale classroom) virtually overlooking the court with 2 balconies. Gets very loud and when Yale is on a run, deafening.
Thanks... Never been.
I guess the strategy is to never allow Yale to go on a run and keep the place nice and quiet. Three-pointers raining down on them from Ryan & Caleb mixing in quite a few bunnies from AJ should do it.
I'd be interested in a little more in-depth strategy from anyone who knows anything about the current Yale team...
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PennFan10
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03-01-18 01:02 PM - Post#250019
In response to Cvonvorys
Yale plays two bigs. Paul Atkinson has been a beast, albeit a bit inconsistent, but hammered us at the Palestra with 20pts 13 Rebs. We won largely because Yale shot 1-19 from the arc (of course we shot 22%) and Jake Silpe hit 2 of our 5 3's. We outrebounded Yale 44-35 with Max and AJ collecting a combined 17 rebs.
I suspect we will play 2 bigs a lot and Yale will shoot much better at home. Yale is undefeated in Ivy play when Miye Oni scores more than 10 pts. He had 6 in the first matchup.
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Re: Penn v Yale
03-01-18 01:16 PM - Post#250021
In response to palestra38
In addition to P38's comments (which I agree with), there used to be very poor lighting - while that has been improved, the lighting there is still weird.
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Chip Bayers
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03-01-18 04:22 PM - Post#250033
In response to SteveChop
It’s an extremely odd facility, even by Ivy standards.
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palestra38
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03-01-18 04:28 PM - Post#250035
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http://www.yalebulldogs.com/information/facilitie s...
https://sportsandrecreati on.yale.edu/gallery/payne... (look at slides 2-5)
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1979Quakers
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Re: Penn v Yale
03-01-18 04:30 PM - Post#250037
In response to mrjames
Yale is listed as a 1 point favorite (Vegasinsider.com)
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mrjames
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Re: Penn v Yale
03-01-18 04:57 PM - Post#250045
In response to 1979Quakers
Want to see a true open before opining (I've seen these early mover offshore sites be a couple points off the ultimate "true" open).
Yale -1 would be a bit of a surprise, though.
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palestra38
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Re: Penn v Yale
03-01-18 05:11 PM - Post#250046
In response to mrjames
It's because Yale is very tough at home. But we match up very well against them since they don't shoot well from outside. I would think that on a neutral court we would be a 5-6 point favorite, so I too would be surprised if they are a 1 point home fave.
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Re: Penn v Yale
03-01-18 05:24 PM - Post#250049
In response to 1979Quakers
This is another example of volatile Friday Ivy lines. The open of Yale -1 is surprising since the usual calculus (Pomeroy difference with a 2-4 point home adjustment) would indicate Yale +1. I fully expect the line will swing at least that far and end up very close to Colin's prediction of Yale +1.5. I will not bet Penn games, but if Penn opens +1 or better yet +110 on the money line, I'll tell everyone I know to jump on it, because that will not last.
I have learned this team will go into this game with the killer instinct. Yes. PW is a hard place to play, but so is Jadwin, and they were ok there.
This is the first year in some time where they matchup well with Yale in the frontcourt. I also think this will be another opportunity for Goodman to be very effective. Penn will get lots of inside opportunities unless Yale really collapses the D.
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