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Username Post: 2018-2019 Schedule        (Topic#21256)
Shot Clock 
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09-19-18 01:17 PM - Post#261438    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

Patriot League on CBSSN 2018-19 Schedule:
http://patriotleague.org/news/2018/9/19/cbs-sp orts...
B.A. Bucknell University, 1993


 
Bison137 
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09-24-18 08:44 AM - Post#261568    
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Here is the average RPI for each PL team's OOC schedule:


1 Bucknell 91.5
2 Holy Cross 155.4
3 Lehigh 184.7
4 Boston U 199.0
5 Loyola 209.8
6 Navy 223.0
7 American 227.0
8 Lafayette 229.6
9 Colgate 230.3
10 Army 236.0

https://twitter.com/Fieldof68Freak/status /10442008...


The gap between #1 (Bucknell) and #2 is 64 spots, while the gap betwwen #3 and #10 is only 51 spots. The biggest disappointment, imo, is the Colgate schedule, given that they were #2 in the PL last year and will be a top 4 pick this year.




 
Bison89 
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09-24-18 09:20 AM - Post#261571    
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  • Bison137 Said:
Here is the average RPI for each PL team's OOC schedule:


1 Bucknell 91.5
2 Holy Cross 155.4
3 Lehigh 184.7
4 Boston U 199.0
5 Loyola 209.8
6 Navy 223.0
7 American 227.0
8 Lafayette 229.6
9 Colgate 230.3
10 Army 236.0

https://twitter.com/Fieldof68Freak/status /10442008...


The gap between #1 (Bucknell) and #2 is 64 spots, while the gap betwwen #3 and #10 is only 51 spots. The biggest disappointment, imo, is the Colgate schedule, given that they were #2 in the PL last year and will be a top 4 pick this year.



I wonder if there is any incentive to have a difficult schedule in the PL. Outside of Bucknell and maybe HC, it seems that as long as a coach has a winning record, it means job security. It does not seem to matter if they beat up on St. Somebody's School For The Blind or a Top 20 school as long as they have a winning record.

Given the above, maybe we should just take the Gonzaga approach. Schedule the toughest OOC schedule possible, pound your in-conference games, and make a run in the NCAA tournament. If some in-conference team improves, like St. Mary's, then, all the better.
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
bison63 
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09-24-18 02:04 PM - Post#261572    
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I think that is kind of what we have been doing. Difference being we are not Gonzaga academically, and thus are more limited in our recruiting ability. Btw those ‘05-06 teams had a lot of writers and ESPN types thinking we were the next Gonzaga. That comes from a mindset that believed we would do whatever was necessary to compete at the top level on the court, regardless of academics. There are people, you can find them on any sports network, who think college is about sports.

As long as I can remember, we have played the toughest ooc schedule in the PL, and that has, I think, been key to our success. As ND says, the best teams we play all season should not be in our conference.

 
bison75 
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09-24-18 02:56 PM - Post#261573    
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It seems to me that playing a strong OOC schedule would help with recruiting.

 
Bison89 
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09-25-18 10:01 AM - Post#261578    
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  • bison75 Said:
It seems to me that playing a strong OOC schedule would help with recruiting.



Bison75, I could not agree more. If we were playing Lafayette's or Army's schedule, we would never get the level of recruits that we do.

I am not very familiar with how the scheduling process works. Does the AD or HC have the most say in who we play from year to year, or is it a collaborative process?
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
jkrun80 
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09-25-18 12:25 PM - Post#261588    
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Scheduling is another issue. Lower tier P5 schools don't want to play (i.e. lose to) Bucknell, but they're perfectly content to play Lafayette or Army. We could schedule all mid-major patsies, but that's (thankfully) not the coaching staff's mindset.

 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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09-25-18 01:35 PM - Post#261590    
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Our game vs Canisius got moved up a day to November 13th according to the Canisius twitter account .

https://twitter.com/griffs_mbb/status/104 464309172...

 
Bison137 
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09-25-18 01:52 PM - Post#261592    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Our game vs Canisius got moved up a day to November 13th according to the Canisius twitter account .

https://twitter.com/griffs_mbb/status/104 464309172...




I see that change is now reflected on the Bucknell site as well. Odd. It now gives the Bison less rest after the Saturday night game with Fairfield, and then a 12 day break after the Canisius game. And a date change doesn't seem to matter much to Canisius either, as there next game is a home game Saturday night.




 
HoleinOne 
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09-25-18 04:49 PM - Post#261611    
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89 and 75 - While I agree that playing a tough out of conference schedule helps with recruiting, wonder if we overdo it. Names like Michigan or North Carolina certainly help, but many of the tougher small schools don't seem to add value. Minimal name recognition. Wonder what the impression the Bison starting 0-5 or 2-6 leaves with recruits.

 
KenZ 
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10-10-18 09:05 PM - Post#262389    
    In response to HoleinOne

an interesting article on scheduling, particular focus on buy games

https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/inde x.ss...

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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10-22-18 09:52 PM - Post#263288    
    In response to KenZ

AP pre-season top 25 poll is out. Potential Diamond Head Classic opponent TCU is #20.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ne ws/...

 
BUFan 
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10-30-18 08:08 PM - Post#263835    
    In response to Bison137

Maybe a dumb question but why are they off from 11/13 to 11/25. Between that and finals break, that is a lot of rest.

 
Bison137 
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10-30-18 08:24 PM - Post#263837    
    In response to BUFan

  • BUFan Said:
Maybe a dumb question but why are they off from 11/13 to 11/25. Between that and finals break, that is a lot of rest.





I'm sure they didn't really want that long of a break, but it likely just worked out that way based on when the opponents had open dates on their calendar. Putting together an OOC schedule is always a puzzle with dozens of moving pieces.

Having said that, there are three reasons why more off-days were available this year:

1. Having a MTE where the team plays three games in 72 hours, as is the case this year at Diamond Head, leaves more free time to space out the rest of the schedule than the situation they had last year, where they played a 4-game MTE with four separate games spread out over two weeks.

2. Last year, due to the NCAA calendar, the first PL game was on December 29th, which forced the OOC games to be more condensed. This year the first game isn't until four days later, i.e. January 2nd, which allowed the schedule to be more spread out.

3. And finally, the new NCAA rule on the opening date allowed the opener to be played November 7th. Last year, the earliest allowable date was November 10th.

Combining the three items above, the team likely had almost 14 more free days when putting together the schedule.




 
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