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03-02-18 09:28 PM - Post#250257
Women's tournament starts tomorrow with the first round. Bucknell gets the winner of Holy Cross vs. Colgate on Monday. Neither is a push over. Colgate has won 3 of their last 5 after starting league play 0-13. Holy Cross has the top two scorers in the league, though not much beyond that. If we get to the semis, we'll play Navy or Loyola. As good as Navy is, I'd rather them than Loyola. Loyola always gives us fits (and beat Navy a week ago), including our only league loss at Sojka this year. Our side of the bracket is much tougher overall. But the team is playing better than the rest of the league right now. Need to keep it up for three more games.
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03-03-18 03:53 PM - Post#250453
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Holy Cross on Monday.
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03-05-18 09:47 PM - Post#251010
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This was a ugly game for 3 quarters, but the Bison stepped it up in the 4th at both ends and pulled away for the win. Holy Cross stayed in it by shooting 9-20 from 3 (and 10-43 inside the arc). Lauren Manis did much of the damage with three straight 3's in the 3rd Q. Navy will visit Sojka on Thursday in a rematch of last year's championship. Very disappointing "crowd" tonight. I'm afraid Thursday will be the same coming the night after the men's championship.
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03-08-18 03:27 PM - Post#251420
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Women's semi-final tonight at Sojka.
http://www.bucknellbison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_O...
Wish there was half the enthusiasm for the women's team as there was for the men. Perhaps some of the other athletic teams will come out. I'll wager the president won't be sitting on the bench tonight. A crowd of 1000 would be nice, but I'm not optimistic.
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03-08-18 03:43 PM - Post#251427
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We beat all three semi-final teams in our last 3 regular season games. Need to keep that up for two more.
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03-08-18 04:40 PM - Post#251435
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Hopefully the men will be there
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03-08-18 05:08 PM - Post#251438
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6pm is a difficult start time, and $12 cost is for those who will come regardless of price. If we are fortunate to host on Sunday, my wife and I will be there. Not tonight. I assume students are able to get in free of charge?
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03-08-18 05:22 PM - Post#251442
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Hopefully the men will be there
The men's team has been very supportive and I'm sure most will show up.
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03-08-18 08:19 PM - Post#251462
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Just getting out played
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03-08-18 08:34 PM - Post#251463
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Frustrating
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03-08-18 08:39 PM - Post#251465
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I like Justin Antwell, but “Morgan Taylor blows a layup from point blank range.†As opposed to say a 25 foot layup?
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03-08-18 08:50 PM - Post#251466
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Lost it at the foul line. Too many misses, too many turnovers. Close but no cigar.
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03-08-18 09:41 PM - Post#251468
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Lost it at the foul line. Too many misses, too many turnovers. Close but no cigar.
22 turnovers and 9 missed FTs. Tough to win games when you put yourself in that hole. We are the better team, but Navy played a better game. Walker and Slagus stepped up in the 2nd half, but so did Dunham for Navy. Root for American now. We get the WNIT bid if they win the tournament.
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03-08-18 10:10 PM - Post#251470
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American easily took care of Army.
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03-09-18 05:29 PM - Post#251597
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This is a game they should have won by 20. Amazing they were in it until the final 30 seconds considering these four things:
1. Shot 6-27 on threes, almost all wide open. Other than Kate Walker, it was 2-19.
2. Hit 12-21 on FT's.
3. Had 22 turnovers compared to 7 by Navy. Team continues to throw bad crosscourt passes and the PG continues to dribble into the middle of the lane and then pick up her dribble with no idea what to do next.
4. Did a terrible job getting the ball to Slagus in the post. Navy couldn't guard her at all, but she didn't get nearly enough opportunities. Slagus got only 7 shots inside the arc - making six - and did draw some fouls.
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03-11-18 10:03 AM - Post#251847
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CBS Sports has the American/Navy final at 11:00 this morning.
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03-11-18 12:03 PM - Post#251876
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Navy leads 24-23 at the half. Bison need American to win, which would send BU to the NIT.
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03-11-18 12:25 PM - Post#251882
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37-31 American. One Q to go.
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03-11-18 01:12 PM - Post#251905
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American Wins
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03-11-18 01:33 PM - Post#251911
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Great opportunity for our team to bounce back. We won a game in the NIT two years ago and Navy won two games last year. No reason we can't do the same this year.
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03-11-18 02:11 PM - Post#251943
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Yes, definite chance. PL will have two teams in it, as Navy is virtually certain to get a bid. Bison would have had a good shot for an at-large as well, with their 90 RPI and a win over top 50 American. For comparison's sake, their RPI in 2015-16 was 92.
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03-11-18 03:19 PM - Post#251978
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How about a rematch in the finals?
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03-11-18 05:13 PM - Post#252026
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Auto qualifiers are listed here: https://www.womensnit.com/tournament-field.html
Other team likely to be in the field:
West Virginia
Southern California
Oklahoma
Purdue
Michigan State
Indiana
Virginia Tech
UCF
I could see us playing WVU or VaTech.
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03-11-18 05:51 PM - Post#252045
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All of those teams are ones who will narrowly miss the NCAA field and thus be high NIT seeds. I think the Bison will be matched up with a team worse than any of these. More like Akron two years ago.
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03-11-18 07:06 PM - Post#252103
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All of those teams are ones who will narrowly miss the NCAA field and thus be high NIT seeds. I think the Bison will be matched up with a team worse than any of these. More like Akron two years ago.
We were very lucky with the Akron draw. I'm not optimistic we'll get an opponent that close to our level this year.
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03-11-18 08:49 PM - Post#252152
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Since the seeding for the WNIT is very loose, it's hard to project what will happen. However there are 128 teams that make either the NCAA or NIT. The Bison's final RPI will be about #89. If we assume ten NCAA auto-bid teams are worse than 89, that means that BU would rank about 35th of the 64 teams that make the NIT field, and they would have one win vs a top 50 team. Hard to say what the committee will do, but I don't see them drawing one of the toughest teams in the first round.
One other consideration is that there are 13 teams with auto-bids who are worse than BU.
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03-12-18 12:06 PM - Post#252365
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Looking solely at RPI, Drexel and Penn will both be among the top 10 teams in the WNIT. Is that strong enough to get each a home game? Other regional schools ranked similarly to the Bison are Fordham; Penn State, which actually has an RPI just below Bucknell's; and Delaware, whose RPI is even lower but averages over 1,400 fans per game which might buy them a home game? Rutgers is on the NCAA bubble. Per 137's belief, doubt we'd play them if they did wind up in the WNIT. As for West Virginia, Robert Morris makes a lot of sense as a first round opponent.
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03-12-18 12:57 PM - Post#252395
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Since the seeding for the WNIT is very loose, it's hard to project what will happen. However there are 128 teams that make either the NCAA or NIT. The Bison's final RPI will be about #89. If we assume ten NCAA auto-bid teams are worse than 89, that means that BU would rank about 35th of the 64 teams that make the NIT field, and they would have one win vs a top 50 team. Hard to say what the committee will do, but I don't see them drawing one of the toughest teams in the first round.
One other consideration is that there are 13 teams with auto-bids who are worse than BU.
I was thinking there were 32 teams like the men's tourney. A first round win is very possible (and a site reasonably close to home). Hopefully, they avoid regular season opponents (i.e. Drexel) for at least the first round.
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03-12-18 01:00 PM - Post#252396
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Yes, I don't think Drexel is an option. I was only looking at the ratings and forgot that we had played them during the regular season.
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03-12-18 03:06 PM - Post#252469
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Here is the WNIT scheduling/seeding process:
Tiered Grouping Procedures:
- After the WNIT committee chooses the 64 teams adhering to the above-mentioned selection process, the teams are grouped into tiers. The system is used to establish teams’ strengths to assist in the bracketing process.
- The committee groups the 64 teams using a combination of tools, including the ranking systems and other criteria listed in the selection process.
This is a general placement of what is considered a distribution of the field strength.
The Bracket Process:
- The committee makes every attempt to distribute the top schools evenly across the bracket.
- First-round pairings are determined initially on team strength (i.e. a top tier team plays a bottom tier team; a middle tier team plays a middle tier team) and then may be adjusted with consideration to school location, conference, and prior meetings among teams, among other factors. See below for details.
- Teams from the same conference will not meet in the first round. If possible, conference teams will not meet in the second round as well.
- Rematches of regular-season games shall be avoided, if possible, in the first round.
- Some pairings are dictated by schools’ ability to host. For example, two schools that cannot host will not be paired with each other.
- Factors can preclude teams from being placed in their natural grouping when it comes to bracketing games. These factors include travel issues, school location, facility availability, lodging constraints, previous games with WNIT opponents, etc.
- The committee strives to achieve competitive balance within each quadrant of the bracket, as well as tries to limit teams’ travel and missed school days.
How the host schools are chosen:
- The host site for each game is selected by the WNIT committee based on several factors such as fan base, host bids, facility availability, tournament seed, travel constraints, etc.
- A team's desire or ability to host or not to host has absolutely no bearing on that team being chosen for the 64-team field.
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03-12-18 08:34 PM - Post#252590
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The field has been posted, but the bracket has not. Wonder if we might end up at Penn State? Would be nice for our fans.
https://www.womensnit.com/tournament-field.html
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03-12-18 08:52 PM - Post#252595
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Mid-pack teams we could potentially play (w/ RPI)
Delaware 106
G Mason 109
Georgetown 96
Miami OH 78 (unlikely)
Penn St 93
Seton Hall 122 (wishful thinking)
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03-12-18 10:37 PM - Post#252632
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Mid-pack teams we could potentially play (w/ RPI)
Delaware 106
G Mason 109
Georgetown 96
Miami OH 78 (unlikely)
Penn St 93
Seton Hall 122 (wishful thinking)
Given Penn State's RPI and the fact that the WNIT tries to minimize transportation costs, that is definitely a possibility.
That would be a tough matchup. According to Sagarin, PSU at home would be a 9-point favorite.
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03-12-18 11:10 PM - Post#252639
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Well, the women were unfairly given the top team in the NIT, West Virginia. WVU ranks #24 in the Sagarin ratings, and was viewed as the first team out when the brackets were announced. They were 21-11 in what may have been the toughest conference in the nation.
According to Sagarin, the Bison will be a 22 point underdog.
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03-13-18 08:02 AM - Post#252661
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Post season brackets are not kind to the Bison this year. Just have to hope our team is more motivated than their's.
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03-13-18 08:38 AM - Post#252663
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This is hard to believe. At first glance, I wonder if they originally had us paired with Drexel and then realized late that we had already played them this year ... thus forcing the switch to send Robert Morris to Drexel and the Bison to West Virginia.
From a conference perspective, the Patriot League had 2 teams chosen for the tournament and American is a 15-seed in the NCAA tourney, both of which suggest that Bucknell shouldn't be near the bottom of the rankings.
Another possibility is that Bucknell got moved very late after Rutgers withdrew from the event. After initially saying they would accept an offer, the Scarlet Knights backed out b/w the time the field was announced and the bracket was produced. Rutgers, which obviously would have hosted a first round game, was replaced by SF Austin. SFA is scheduled to play at George Mason on Friday meaning several games would have been impacted. Could George Mason have been the Bison's original spot? Guess we'll never know.
In any event, I hope the women have a good experience in the post-season.
Edited by DoCtoR62 on 03-13-18 08:42 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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03-13-18 02:47 PM - Post#252778
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This is hard to believe. At first glance, I wonder if they originally had us paired with Drexel and then realized late that we had already played them this year ... thus forcing the switch to send Robert Morris to Drexel and the Bison to West Virginia.
From a conference perspective, the Patriot League had 2 teams chosen for the tournament and American is a 15-seed in the NCAA tourney, both of which suggest that Bucknell shouldn't be near the bottom of the rankings.
Another possibility is that Bucknell got moved very late after Rutgers withdrew from the event. After initially saying they would accept an offer, the Scarlet Knights backed out b/w the time the field was announced and the bracket was produced. Rutgers, which obviously would have hosted a first round game, was replaced by SF Austin. SFA is scheduled to play at George Mason on Friday meaning several games would have been impacted. Could George Mason have been the Bison's original spot? Guess we'll never know.
In any event, I hope the women have a good experience in the post-season.
Interesting thoughts. One of those theories could explain this bizarre first round matchup. Btw, to add even more evidence - American actually was a 14 seed, not a 15. And they were very close to being a 13.
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03-15-18 07:22 PM - Post#253316
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On pace for 40 TO's. More TO's than points so far. Not sure why the coaching staff can't solve this problem.
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03-15-18 08:02 PM - Post#253320
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Down 40-24 at halftime. Managed to cut down on the turnovers. Walker has started to assert herself. Now they need to get Slagus involved. Also, need to make some 3's. Made their first and missed the next 10. The switch to the 2-3 zone seemed to slow WVU down a bit.
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03-15-18 08:59 PM - Post#253326
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WBB is a work in progress when it comes to competing against big time opponents. I don’t see that changing anytime soon.
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03-15-18 09:05 PM - Post#253328
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The disparity between the power conference teams and the mid-majors is much greater than it is for the men. A few programs (Green Bay and Quinnipiac) have had moderate success on a national level but it's very rare. The freshmen (plus Mack) have a little bit more swagger than the rest of the team though. I'm hopeful the program is going to continue to build and someday (soon) be ready to compete at a higher level.
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03-17-18 03:45 PM - Post#253627
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Navy lost to Va Tech on a buzzer beater Friday night. They missed 2 of 4 FTs in the last 11 seconds that might have sealed the win.
American plays @ UCLA in the NCAA this afternoon.
UConn beat St. Francis 140-52. They were up 94-31 at halftime.
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03-17-18 04:54 PM - Post#253631
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American gave up 27 pts in the first quarter, but has closed within 4 midway through the 3rd despite POY Emily Kinneston shooting 1-8.
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