PennFan10
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Re: All-Ivy Picks 03-06-18 04:47 PM - Post#251106
In response to mrjames
What you just heard from my opponent is an attack on my integrity and my character. And I will not reply in kind. Instead, I will take those remarks and tuck them away, away in a tiny "lock-box," where all bad thoughts go.
I have to admit it is quite curious you originally listed Chris Lewis as DPOY and in your "final" picks you switched, almost magically, to Amir Bell. That's gonna bring out the conspiracy theorists......
I do find it interesting that Chris Lewis was the only non unanimous 1st teamer. Who in the world didn't think he was first team?
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mrjames
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Re: All-Ivy Picks 03-06-18 04:56 PM - Post#251107
In response to PennFan10
HA! No that quote is a joke - it's from the SNL Bush-Gore debates... which was peak SNL. If you don't remember Darrell Hammond doing Al Gore, it was simply amazing.
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mrjames
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03-06-18 04:58 PM - Post#251108
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But seriously... Amir Bell as DPOY. Biggest question I have: is he the DPOY... on Princeton? It's really close. I like Stephens more, but it's close.
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bradley
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Re: All-Ivy Picks 03-06-18 04:59 PM - Post#251109
In response to mrjames
You should remember but tuck them away -- high road is always better than the low road. I thought that your picks made very good sense when first released.
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
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Re: All-Ivy Picks 03-06-18 05:01 PM - Post#251110
In response to mrjames
HA! No that quote is a joke - it's from the SNL Bush-Gore debates... which was peak SNL. If you don't remember Darrell Hammond doing Al Gore, it was simply amazing.
Au contraire, mon frere. Peak SNL was Dan Aykroyd as Jimmy Carter talking down a possible drug overdose. "Do you have any Allman Brothers?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-68iTvhWNB0
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penn nation
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Re: All-Ivy Picks 03-06-18 05:18 PM - Post#251111
In response to SomeGuy
Some of the coaches seem to have gotten struck with a sudden case of Bell's Palsy.
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mrjames
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Re: All-Ivy Picks 03-06-18 05:36 PM - Post#251114
In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
I *never* should have started a "peak SNL" debate. I just loved that 2000s era though because it could consistently make it to Weekend Update with gold material, which was no small feat.
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PennFan10
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03-06-18 05:43 PM - Post#251116
In response to mrjames
Amir Bell is a big surprise, especially coming from such a mediocre defensive team. I am shocked the DPOY wasn't from one of the two best defenses in the league, which is the main reason they are also the two best teams in the league by a large margin. Shocked.
Bassey, Lewis, Brodeur, any of those I would have picked before Bell.
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mrjames
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03-06-18 05:47 PM - Post#251117
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Problem was... only one of those was an option to pick.
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
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Re: All-Ivy Picks 03-06-18 05:47 PM - Post#251118
In response to mrjames
I *never* should have started a "peak SNL" debate. I just loved that 2000s era though because it could consistently make it to Weekend Update with gold material, which was no small feat.
Touchy subject, Mike. Tread lightly.
Edited by T.P.F.K.A.D.W. on 03-06-18 05:48 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Silver Maple
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03-06-18 05:58 PM - Post#251119
In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
Darrell Hammond as Bill Clinton, doing a review on Weekend Update of The American President, is one of my all time favorites.
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penn nation
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03-06-18 06:11 PM - Post#251123
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It's hard to argue with the 1970s SNL. Such a talented cast. Gilda Radner doing Roseann Roseannadanna on Weekend Update never got old. Man, was that hysterical.
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PennFan10
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03-06-18 06:39 PM - Post#251126
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It's hard to argue with the 1970s SNL. Such a talented cast. Gilda Radner doing Roseann Roseannadanna on Weekend Update never got old. Man, was that hysterical.
And there was no ILT back then when the Quakers were in the Final Four!
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QHoops
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03-06-18 07:43 PM - Post#251131
In response to PennFan10
Lorne Michaels says that by far the dominant subject people stop him to talk about is their opinion on which era of SNL is best.
He says people almost always tell him it is whichever time period coincided when they were something like 18-20.
Which I can confirm, since obviously the late 70's SNL was best.
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whitakk
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03-06-18 07:56 PM - Post#251133
In response to mrjames
But seriously... Amir Bell as DPOY. Biggest question I have: is he the DPOY... on Princeton? It's really close. I like Stephens more, but it's close.
In the couple games I watched for defense closely I did actually think Bell had a bit more impact. I still took Stephens for the season based on history / on-off splits / reputation but maybe that was a bit lazy.
Anyway it's a weird outcome. Bell/Stephens weren't the reason Princeton's defense was bad this year, but I think you need a really good case to pick someone from a below-average defense when isolating individual contributions is so hard.
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SRP
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03-07-18 01:35 PM - Post#251217
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I'm happy for Bell, who brought it every night on D and made life very difficult for his man, but Lewis seemed like more of an eraser. Maybe foul propensity was a factor.
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mrjames
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03-07-18 01:45 PM - Post#251224
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Lewis not being on the ballot was a big factor...
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SomeGuy
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03-07-18 01:48 PM - Post#251227
In response to mrjames
Assume from your prior comment that AJ wasn’t either. Who from penn? Foreman?
Either that or Harvard managed to put somebody besides Lewis and Bassey up, which seems hard to believe.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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03-07-18 01:51 PM - Post#251228
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Based on Mike's prior posts, I'd assume that Coach Amaker proposed Justin Bassey for DOP. Maybe because Chris Lewis was being considered for POY.
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penn nation
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03-07-18 01:53 PM - Post#251231
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Lewis not being on the ballot was a big factor...
So how this work? You're not allowed to nominate a player for more than a certain number of categories?
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