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Username Post: Bracketology watch        (Topic#21291)
10Q 
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03-12-18 11:59 AM - Post#252359    
    In response to SRP

Follow the money

 
Jeff2sf 
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03-12-18 12:09 PM - Post#252368    
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just read mike's tweet storm. pretty sure this is the feeling I had when Mom told me about Santa.

 
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03-12-18 12:19 PM - Post#252374    
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I think it is kind of interesting that we are still having this heated debate about holding a tournament when several coaches within the mid-major (and even high major-see Calipari)conferences that get multiple bids are questioning their tournaments.

 
Quakers03 
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03-12-18 12:42 PM - Post#252383    
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  • mbaprof Said:
There was a great visual yesterday of the Princeton's mens team filing into the Palestra as SPECTATORS for the women



Oh would I have LOVED to see this. I wonder why they didn't come for the mens games...Good on them for supporting the women though.

 
penn nation 
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03-12-18 01:17 PM - Post#252403    
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  • Jeff2sf Said:
just read mike's tweet storm. pretty sure this is the feeling I had when Mom told me about Santa.



Yeah, what Mike is saying is not surprising, though. The mid-majors get screwed for ways we've described even as recently as on this very thread, and for many years on this board.

Plus, even the few that do make it to the NCAA tourney itself usually get "set up" by the committee to have a very difficult road to make any meaningful progress.

The NCAA is like the Powerball folks--they sell the little folks the dream of making a fortune, even though the system is set up to be a regressive tax on the poor who almost always earn bupkus.


Edited by penn nation on 03-12-18 01:40 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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03-12-18 01:29 PM - Post#252413    
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"Hey, Ya Never Know."

 
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03-12-18 01:45 PM - Post#252419    
    In response to Quakers03

It was probably a transportation issue, since unlike the Penn teams, they couldn't just walk from their dorm rooms. In order to get a free bus ride and entry to the Palestra they probably had to go when the women left. You seem to assume they could all pile into a minivan at 10 am, and stay all day to see both games.

 
penn nation 
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03-12-18 01:47 PM - Post#252422    
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  • Albert08 Said:
It was probably a transportation issue, since unlike the Penn teams, they couldn't just walk from their dorm rooms. In order to get a free bus ride and entry to the Palestra they probably had to go when the women left. You seem to assume they could all pile into a minivan at 10 am, and stay all day to see both games.



Where were the other teams staying in Philadelphia? There are many transportation options available to get you close to the Palestra.


Edited by penn nation on 03-12-18 01:48 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Jeff2sf 
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03-12-18 01:52 PM - Post#252427    
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so PU transported their team back and forth? they do that last year? to save a few bucks? what a magical gathering of communities this thing has turned out to be. Synergy, Connections!

 
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03-12-18 02:17 PM - Post#252440    
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Did the league pay for the buses?


 
penn nation 
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03-12-18 02:21 PM - Post#252443    
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The cameras would not stop fawning over Mark Alarie and Craig Robinson in the stands, watching their daughters. I bet they could have sprung for SEPTA fare.

Edited by penn nation on 03-12-18 02:23 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
penn nation 
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Re: Bracketology watch
03-12-18 11:41 PM - Post#252651    
    In response to penn nation

Approaching midnight tonight, the latest spreads in the MW bracket:

1-16 (KU-UP) 14
2-15 (Duke-Iona) 19.5
3-14 (MSU-Bucknell) 14.5
4-13 (Auburn-Charleston) 10



 
Streamers 
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03-13-18 10:11 AM - Post#252681    
    In response to penn nation

I actually think (hypothetically) that we would have been closer to +17-18 if we had drawn Duke. The matchups would have been more challenging (see: Bagley/Carter) and Duke has no real injury issues going in.

Bucknell really got a tough 3. I don't think they will cover that number.

Keep an eye on the money line. This is where the real gamblers like to play. Penn is still at +850 which is better than all the 15's and close to some of the 14's. These are all pretty volatile at this stage, but a closer look reveals that the penn/KU line is as much about KU as it is Penn. We see something similar with GA St. and Cincy Also at +850-900.

Meanwhile - Harvard opened at +11.5 vs Marquette FWIW.



 
palestra38 
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03-13-18 10:16 AM - Post#252682    
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A Vegas book strongly counseling a Penn bet

https://www.oddsshark.com/ncaab/pennsylvania-ka nsa...

 
Chip Bayers 
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03-13-18 10:24 AM - Post#252684    
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  • Quote:
These are all pretty volatile at this stage, but a closer look reveals that the penn/KU line is as much about KU as it is Penn. We see something similar with GA St. and Cincy Also at +850-900.



In both cases, injury concerns with starters (Azubuike at KU, Evans at UC) are a major factor for the books.


 
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03-13-18 10:27 AM - Post#252686    
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Agreed - although they are assuming Azubuike will play as of now. Any change there will bring the line down a bit.

 
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03-13-18 10:31 AM - Post#252688    
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  • palestra38 Said:
A Vegas book strongly counseling a Penn bet

https://www.oddsshark.com/ncaab/pennsylvania-ka nsa...



This data tends to move around quite a bit as you get closer to tipoff. I check it just before I put down the wagers.

I'd love to say these guys know what they are talking about but... Not so much

 
penn nation 
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Re: Bracketology watch
03-14-18 04:55 PM - Post#253085    
    In response to penn nation

Updated spreads (Godzilla now listed as ?)

1-16 13.5
2-15 20
3-14 14.5
4-13 9.5

  • penn nation Said:
Approaching midnight tonight, the latest spreads in the MW bracket:

1-16 (KU-UP) 14
2-15 (Duke-Iona) 19.5
3-14 (MSU-Bucknell) 14.5
4-13 (Auburn-Charleston) 10






 
Quakers03 
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03-14-18 05:03 PM - Post#253087    
    In response to penn nation

I know it probably moved with the announcement of the big, but this really is a joke. 13.5 for a 16-1 game. I hope they are embarrassed.

 
penn nation 
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03-14-18 05:16 PM - Post#253088    
    In response to Quakers03

Frankly if I were a bettor I would jump on Kansas.

I mean they're playing in Wichita, for crying out loud. And they are loaded, even if not as quite as much per usual Kansas standards.

 
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