penn nation
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03-12-18 09:33 PM - Post#252608
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
For me, the biggest stretch was the final 4:10 of the first half. Harvard squandered a 13 point lead and ended up giving up 13 points in the final 3 minutes to trail by 2 at the half.
Almost all of their shots in those final 5 minutes were off-balance/one handed from a big with little chance for an offense rebound.
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Quakers03
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March Madness 03-12-18 09:37 PM - Post#252612
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
I feel that the key play was when Penn missed a shot in the final minutes with Harvard up by 3, but Johnson failed to box out Wood or even go for the rebound. Penn hit a big 3 within seconds, instead of possibly falling behind by 2 sores. That was big.
That was indeed a HUGE play as Caleb came flying in along the baseline after a missed 3. He then got to the line for 2 free throws, not a 3. Those came later, courtesy of him as well, and with it a title. The play also ended the 13-0 run. The stories on this team, including Caleb and his 4.0 gpa, are almost as good as what we saw from the Birds. Only one more thing could make it better...
Speaking of the Caleb 3's, the screen AJ set on the and 1 was interesting...
I've watched the Betley play a bunch and I'm not the least bit convinced it landed out.
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TheLine
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03-12-18 09:45 PM - Post#252616
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Any word on Seth Towns? It was hard seeing him in pain and tears on the sideline.
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PennFan10
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03-12-18 09:55 PM - Post#252619
In response to TheLine
AJs screen? Not nearly as bad as Chris Lewis street sweeper screen that led to the Juzang 3 with under a minute left. Or the Corey Johnson Fosbury vs Max with under 2 to play. Some poor calls down the stretch both ways for sure.
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LyleGold
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Re: March Madness 03-12-18 09:57 PM - Post#252620
In response to Quakers03
I've watched the Betley play a bunch and I'm not the least bit convinced it landed out.
That's the only part of the play that remains a mystery. Looking at the parts of the baseline that are visible and other factors like the red border, Ryan may have safely regained the ball. I wish there was another angle. I guess we'll never know. If the ref hadn't reflexively blown his whistle, Ryan may have been legitimately fouled a second later or called timeout. If you've watched him in similar situations this year, he always holds the ball and waits for the foul call. That strategy killed us at Yale.
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LyleGold
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Re: March Madness 03-12-18 10:10 PM - Post#252622
In response to LyleGold
Oh, and by the way, how close did Devon Goodman come to fouling Bassey's 3 pt attempt on the final play? Their hands came together after releasing the shot. We've seen a lot less called lately (Silpe's foul against Yale being the most egregious.)
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palestra38
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Re: March Madness 03-12-18 10:12 PM - Post#252623
In response to LyleGold
What are you doing? Are you intentionally trolling our own site trying to make Harvard fans think they got screwed???
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penn nation
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Re: March Madness 03-12-18 10:14 PM - Post#252624
In response to LyleGold
Ryan should have been calling for time right away as he was clearly in trouble, but never did. We had two TOs in our back pocket.
I've watched the Betley play a bunch and I'm not the least bit convinced it landed out.
That's the only part of the play that remains a mystery. Looking at the parts of the baseline that are visible and other factors like the red border, Ryan may have safely regained the ball.
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LyleGold
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Re: March Madness 03-12-18 10:24 PM - Post#252629
In response to palestra38
What are you doing? Are you intentionally trolling our own site trying to make Harvard fans think they got screwed???
No, but if they do, that's just a bonus.
I'm just pointing out what a fine edge decided this game. It's not trolling if it's the truth. You know I've bitched about how many times we've gotten screwed and the refereeing in general drives me crazy, but for once it worked out for us. It very easily could have gone the other way.
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Quakers03
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03-12-18 10:42 PM - Post#252633
In response to PennFan10
AJs screen? Not nearly as bad as Chris Lewis street sweeper screen that led to the Juzang 3 with under a minute left. Or the Corey Johnson Fosbury vs Max with under 2 to play. Some poor calls down the stretch both ways for sure.
Agreed in full. I'm just glad they let them play for the most part.
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SRP
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03-13-18 08:07 PM - Post#252874
In response to Quakers03
The worst blown call was the first-half charge where the ref falsely claimed that the help defender for Harvard was in the restricted area. The replay showed in black-and-white that he was not.
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SomeGuy
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03-13-18 08:18 PM - Post#252879
In response to SRP
That’s one where seeing it live it looked like a good call (so i’m Surprised to hear it was not).
Is this a useful time for me to say that I don’t really get why the calls are ever even a conversation? Maybe it’s from coaching myself and not wanting players to worry about the refs (so i never argue a call), but you get some calls, and some go against you. I don’t give it a second thought. Reffing is hard, and sometimes they’ll get them wrong. Part of the game.
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penn nation
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03-13-18 08:47 PM - Post#252895
In response to SomeGuy
I think that might have been the call the announcers said Amaker could have appealed if he wanted to.
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Quakers03
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03-13-18 09:29 PM - Post#252899
In response to penn nation
It was indeed. I watched it again last night. From a technical standpoint the Columbia color guy is right, assuming the call was made because he was in the restricted. I guess we can take his word for it but I thought the defender was still moving anyway.
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